Question First PC Build, Parts List Opinions, Feedback, and Compatibility Advice please

[allhappy]

Hello all, I'm currently doing research on parts for my first ever PC build, and I was hoping to get some advice regarding part compatibility before I buy.

This is a PC which is I want to use for programming (data science/Machine learning,deep learning) with very light gaming. I want this like a workstation where I can leave it switched on all the time. I use Linux if that helps in any way.Any advice you're willing to give me for this build about the component compatibility, if anyone knows about any issues with the parts I have chosen which need to be addressed or better alternative parts would be very appreciated!

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r4PkRK

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($148.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO H610M-G WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($99.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($38.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card (Purchased )
Case: BitFenix NOVA MESH SE TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.90)
Power Supply: ARESGAME AGV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($52.99)

I already have the GPU . My budget is fixed roughly around this.

1. I am mainly looking if all the parts are compatible , like the motherboard, psu ,etc for my use case. Any suggestions for the motherboard are helpful . Is it compatible with the cpu or a better motherboard under 120 is okay with my budget. I've been seeing that motherboard has some heating issues, not so clear on this. So looking for suggestions there.
2. I also do need 32gb for my usecase. Anything more is also good with me.
3. Is the case too large for the motherboard?

So, that's the current list that I'm looking at. Again, any feedback about the components is very appreciated!

 

[Lafong]

Those parts add up to 476 dollars.

Is that the absolute top of your budget?

Is there any particular reason you chose a 12th gen CPU?

I'm guessing you will get frowns at that power supply.

 

[allhappy]

Those parts add up to 476 dollars.

Is that the absolute top of your budget?

Is there any particular reason you chose a 12th gen CPU?

I'm guessing you will get frowns at that power supply.

I've got the gpu for around 250$. The total budget was around 600 first and extended that . There isn't any particular reason for the 12th gen. I'm on a constrained budget for now. So I'm looking to get the best possible ones. Any changes you would suggest for the above build? For the cpu is i3-13th/14th gen good?

 

[Lafong]

Not a whole lot you can do if you don't want to spend more than your list.

There is an i3-13100f

Slightly slower than your i5-12400f. for about 125 dollars. Don't know if you would notice the difference in your use case. You might spend that saved money on a better power supply?

There is an i3-14100f. It is 115 dollars right now at Newegg. A bit faster than the 13100f. It is so new that reviews and horsepower ratings are difficult to locate.

Maybe you couldn't tell the difference between all 3 of these CPUs.

You are at 476 dollars now. How long would you have to delay to be able to spend 600??

That would help a lot.

The 12400f has 6 cores; the others don't. I have NO idea how big a deal that would be for your use case.

Not sure what Linux CPU demands might be compared to Windows. Up to you to decide on that.

 

[allhappy]

Not a whole lot you can do if you don't want to spend more than your list.

There is an i3-13100f

Slightly slower than your i5-12400f. for about 125 dollars. Don't know if you would notice the difference in your use case. You might spend that saved money on a better power supply?

There is an i3-14100f. It is 115 dollars right now at Newegg. A bit faster than the 13100f. It is so new that reviews and horsepower ratings are difficult to locate.

Maybe you couldn't tell the difference between all 3 of these CPUs.

You are at 476 dollars now. How long would you have to delay to be able to spend 600??

That would help a lot.

The 12400f has 6 cores; the others don't. I have NO idea how big a deal that would be for your use case.

Not sure what Linux CPU demands might be compared to Windows. Up to you to decide on that.

Yes, I understand the budget is a bit constrained for what I'm looking. If the motherboard is good enough I would go with cheapest one possible for the cpu. It'd take a bit long to spend more for now so I'm looking to buy the PC soon. Could you suggest any better psu's under 80$?I'd get 13100f/12100f(both seem similar performance) and spend the rest for the psu. Also is the motherboard the best possible one for that price range?

 

[USAFRet]

A single 512GB storage device is likely too small.

 

[allhappy]

A single 512GB storage device is likely too small.

@Lafong @USAFRet here is the updated list what i'm thinking of getting. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8cG4wg
Could you suggest any better psu for this? any changes you would suggest?

 

[35below0]

Spend $100 on a PSU. Unless you're ok with your PC lasting only a few years and possibly going out with a bang. A good PSU can last more than a decade. If you spread the cost over many years and include the peace of mind a reliable unit gets you, it's good value for money.

How about this Corsair RM750e? Currently available for $89:
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-RM750e-Modular-Low-Noise-Supply/dp/B0BYR1BXC6?th=1

 

[USAFRet]

@Lafong @USAFRet here is the updated list what i'm thinking of getting. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8cG4wg
Could you suggest any better psu for this? any changes you would suggest?

ARESGAME PSU.

Not even a little bit, not on a bet.

 

[Lafong]

Yes, I understand the budget is a bit constrained for what I'm looking. If the motherboard is good enough I would go with cheapest one possible for the cpu. It'd take a bit long to spend more for now so I'm looking to buy the PC soon. Could you suggest any better psu's under 80$?I'd get 13100f/12100f(both seem similar performance) and spend the rest for the psu. Also is the motherboard the best possible one for that price range?

I have no idea about that motherboard.

It has one M.2 slot. Gen 3.

Your M.2 drive is gen 4. It will work, but at gen 3 speeds.

Not much practical difference between gen 3 and gen 4.

 

[35below0]

A single 512GB storage device is likely too small.

I would look at a 5400rpm HDD. Less noisy than faster HDDs in my opinion. Usually cheaper. Several Tb of storage at perfectly acceptable speed. Last a long time too.

What do you think?

 

[USAFRet]

I would look at a 5400rpm HDD. Less noisy than faster HDDs in my opinion. Usually cheaper. Several Tb of storage at perfectly acceptable speed. Last a long time too.

What do you think?

A single HDD in 2024? If you like watching paint dry.
Not a chance.

 

[35below0]

A single HDD in 2024? If you like watching paint dry.
Not a chance.

No, no. I mean in addition to that 512Gb SSD.

 

[USAFRet]

No, no. I mean in addition to that 512Gb SSD.

OK then, maybe.

Or just bump that 512 to 1TB.

 

[allhappy]

Hi guys, thank you so much for the feedbacks. Here is the updated list:https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QtR3jH
I've updated the ssd to 1tb which is good enough for my use case. I've updated the psu to the corsair RM750e. Regarding the motherboard if there isn't much difference between the gen 3 and gen 4 for my usage of programming I'd like to stick to the one or else is it worth changing the motherboard for it?

 

[Lafong]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100011693 601193224 600038493 600640786 8000&Order=1

Above is a list of gen 3 M.2 drives, all 1 TB.

Lowest price is a Crucial at 57 dollars. Probably at least as good as your team group?

At your budget, I wouldn't pay a dime to get gen 4 capability.

Your motherboard may be horrible or fabulous.

You roll the dice, regardless of brand or price or features. Hope.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

For a system this is going to be running 24x7, you need a B660/760 mobo with decent VRMs than a H610 board.

a bit cheaper if you go AMD, but you are limited to 5700X for the CPU upgrade. I would not trust a 16 core cpu on that board.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($77.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Enhanced Redline Stiletto 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($56.94 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($57.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card (Purchased For $289.00)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($51.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Thermalright TL-C12C X3 66.17 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack ($11.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $719.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-31 05:09 EST-0500

 

[allhappy]

For a system this is going to be running 24x7, you need a B660/760 mobo with decent VRMs than a H610 board.

a bit cheaper if you go AMD, but you are limited to 5700X for the CPU upgrade. I would not trust a 16 core cpu on that board.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($77.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Enhanced Redline Stiletto 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($56.94 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($57.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card (Purchased For $289.00)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($51.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Thermalright TL-C12C X3 66.17 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack ($11.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $719.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-31 05:09 EST-0500

Hello, thank you for the feedback. if I am to use the intel cpu , would you suggest any motherboard around 100-150$ that has a good VRM? If the motherboard has inbuilt WiFi , it's great.

 

[allhappy]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100011693 601193224 600038493 600640786 8000&Order=1

Above is a list of gen 3 M.2 drives, all 1 TB.

Lowest price is a Crucial at 57 dollars. Probably at least as good as your team group?

At your budget, I wouldn't pay a dime to get gen 4 capability.

Your motherboard may be horrible or fabulous.

You roll the dice, regardless of brand or price or features. Hope.

hi, from the new comments and some research I see that the motherboard may not be that great. So I'm willing to spend some more on a good motherboard . Hopefully it supports gen4.

 

[Lafong]

Decent idea to spend more.

Motherboard may or may not be best area to spend more on...depending on what the rest of your parts list is.

Could be that spending more on an upgraded CPU is the best idea.

There's a limit to what you can learn from motherboard reviews.....quality control is modest. One example of motherboard X may work fine and the next example of motherboard X may have major issues.

Gen 4 rather than gen 3 probably would NOT be what I was most interested in when trying to buy a "better" motherboard. Practical difference is minimal....although you may be highly excited by benchmarks?

Pay a lot of attention to the individual features on any motherboard choice...number of chassis fan connections; number and type of USB connections; number and type of M.2 connections; sound chip; etc etc.

We don't know the finer points of your requirements. You might need a PS2 keyboard connector for all we know.

Don't buy anything without posting a revised list of ALL parts.

 

[allhappy]

Decent idea to spend more.

Motherboard may or may not be best area to spend more on...depending on what the rest of your parts list is.

Could be that spending more on an upgraded CPU is the best idea.

There's a limit to what you can learn from motherboard reviews.....quality control is modest. One example of motherboard X may work fine and the next example of motherboard X may have major issues.

Gen 4 rather than gen 3 probably would NOT be what I was most interested in when trying to buy a "better" motherboard. Practical difference is minimal....although you may be highly excited by benchmarks?

Pay a lot of attention to the individual features on any motherboard choice...number of chassis fan connections; number and type of USB connections; number and type of M.2 connections; sound chip; etc etc.

We don't know the finer points of your requirements. You might need a PS2 keyboard connector for all we know.

Don't buy anything without posting a revised list of ALL parts.

I've gone through some motherboard's and I could find this : https://a.co/d/dVx1bu7 / https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144584?Item=N82E16813144584#. This looks good to me but anyway feedback is great. Here is the updated pcpp link:https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JL9gKX

 

[Lafong]

The Intel i3-14100F is 115 dollars at newegg.

16 dollars more than the 12100F.

13100 is about 3-4 percent stronger than 12100

14100 is likely 3-4 percent stronger than 13100.

16 dollars for 6 to 8 percent CPU strength increase. I strongly consider that versus somewhere else for 16 dollars that MIGHT be an improvement.

Your motherboard is said to support it.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760M-A-WIFI-DDR4/Specification

But I can understand hard budget limits.

Best thing to spend 16 dollars on would be quality control/freedom from future headaches, but you can't find that category at PCPartpicker.

 

[allhappy]

The Intel i3-14100F is 115 dollars at newegg.

16 dollars more than the 12100F.

13100 is about 3-4 percent stronger than 12100

14100 is likely 3-4 percent stronger than 13100.

16 dollars for 6 to 8 percent CPU strength increase. I strongly consider that versus somewhere else for 16 dollars that MIGHT be an improvement.

Your motherboard is said to support it.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760M-A-WIFI-DDR4/Specification

But I can understand hard budget limits.

Best thing to spend 16 dollars on would be quality control/freedom from future headaches, but you can't find that category at PCPartpicker.

Hi, I've got the i3-14100f. and this is my final build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cTjtHG. A small doubt I have is would 4 core be good enough for my use case? Or would the cpu hit any bottleneck before that?