Folding@Home: THGC Needs You -Team 40051

[Mousemonkey]

If you click on 'Tracked Threads' in will be in the list.

The PPD issue is no a driver one with my 660Ti's, the PPD is pants with the old drivers as well as the new ones. I wonder who is going to blame who this time around? :lol:

 

[EXT64]

:lol: What Project/WU?

 

[Mousemonkey]

:lol: What Project/WU?

I have had two pairs of 9408's on the trot so far and I've tried the new funky 337.50 driver and the good old 314.07 (which always gave better results!) but this time there is no change in the PPD, none at all. 🙁

 

[EXT64]

Ah, I think I can answer that. Check in the logs. Right after the WU starts you should see a message like:

"07:25:02:WU02:FS00:0x17:Version 0.0.55"

If yours is version 55, then you have the newest core version which fixes the slowdown due to new NVidia drivers (they figured out whatever NVidia changed and adapted to it).

Also, are you running beta or advanced?

Now for the low PPD. If you are using FAHControl, is the PPD prediction jumping around at all? I can't remember if 9408 does that. If it isn't, I think that 9408 was one of the WUs where PPD varies between WU depending on run # (something like the number of water molecules required by the simulation varies depending on run #).

If you are running beta or advanced you could try no flag if you are in windows. I think that the WU you will get then will be more consistent - or it will be a core 15 and will completely torpedo your PPD :lol:

 

[EXT64]

However I should add - the non-beta/advanced probably won't use Core v55 - so in some cases the old drivers are still needed (hopefully that will be fixed soon).

Glad to be back folding? :lol:

 

[Mousemonkey]

"11:52:25:WU00:FS00:0x17:Folding@home GPU core17
11:52:25:WU00:FS00:0x17:Version 0.0.52"

This is/was just a pipe blower to make sure that everything works before being packed up for the big move.

 

[anti-painkilla]

Damn I thought I had posted before I went on holiday.

System runs 110W on idle, and 245W on full folding. From memory it was running 140ish with just CPU folding.

Fan is making a horrid sound at 1800 rpm, i will need to RMA it at some point. Apart from that, the system is super quiet.

 

[anti-painkilla]

As posted on EVGA forums the pirocast badges are still down. http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=2132522

Also does anyone else use the 'Where is tom's folding team thread 40051.' thread to find this thread. Not sure how the search results are listed now, our thread used to always be at the top when searching 40051. Now it is not even in the first 5 pages.

Searching F@H searches 'FH' as the search box drops the '@'. At least we are on the second page when searching 'folding @ home'. And no where to be seen under 'folding@home'.

My sig was my little hope that more would become aware of it, answering questions would hopefully promote us without is having to blast it over the website.

ADDED: Haha fixed my sig so that it links to our first page. Hopefully that helps a tiny bit.

 

[Sakkura]

There's a link in one of the stickies.

 

[EXT64]

Just an FYI in case any AMD users haven't upgraded their drivers to 14.x yet, there is now a WHQL 14.x driver that gets a nice performance boost: https://folding.stanford.edu/home/new-amd-gpu-driver-improves-performance/

 

[anti-painkilla]

Thanks, I had been putting them off for a while now.

 

[JPNpower]

Aloha peoples!

I am not in Hawaii, but sort of feel like it... Here in the east coast of USA, spring seems to have... not happened, and winter has burst into summer (same with my folks back in Japan as well) This year's heat wave might be terrible! Folding may be tough, and both my PC(s) and my body are in grave danger of heat stroke.

Stay cool guys!

 

[EXT64]

Yeah, it has been a bit toasty. Not too bad yet where I am (SW VA) and we have been getting consistent rain. I sure hope this summer isn't another hot, dry one.

 

[JPNpower]

Hear how California is? Fires and droughts. CPU/GPU hell.

Both humans and computers need good hydration if you know what I mean.

 

[icraft]

Hear how California is? Fires and droughts. CPU/GPU hell.

Both humans and computers need good hydration if you know what I mean.

http://iscaliforniaonfire.com/

 

[beanoslim]

Picked up an R9 290, OC'ed to 1000mhz, can't say I'm blown away with the ppd, 110k-150k!

Seems to spike a bit when folding, usage dips from 100% like for a second but does it quite regularly??

Had this problem before with newer cards on older boards will try and get a better board to try it on.

 

[icraft]

Picked up an R9 290, OC'ed to 1000mhz, can't say I'm blown away with the ppd, 110k-150k!

Seems to spike a bit when folding, usage dips from 100% like for a second but does it quite regularly??

Had this problem before with newer cards on older boards will try and get a better board to try it on.

Wasn't there a thing with hawaii being 1/3DP instead of 1/2DP like Tahiti? I know that are known for lower ppd anyways.

 

[beanoslim]

Its all core 17 wu's as well since the drop🙁

 

[EXT64]

None of the current cores use double precision, so although Hawaii does have less DP than Tahiti, it isn't an issue here.

Many of the newer projects (9406, 9408, 9101, 9201, etc.) have a lot more variability between Runs. This is due to the initial conditions (the initial protein structure) of some Runs requiring a larger "water box" than others. While the size of the protein is the same (same number of protein atoms) more water molecules means more computations (and thus slower progress, lower PPD). On some of the really bad ones the project is split so that the slower Runs can be given more points.

There is a new core in development (which Mousemonkey should like). Based off of a new version of OpenMM, it does away with the concept of "Work Units" and instead streams the work. If you want to run for 1 minute or 15 days you can. The work is sent back at regular intervals (so power failure -> no lost work) and when you stop (so gaming isn't slowing the work down). Still very much in the alpha stage, but a great development for part time and full time folders. Also the first stab at having CPUs and GPU work on the exact same work (rather than having separate Projects), however the CPU core still needs a lot of optimization. You can read more here: https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=26218

 

[Sakkura]

Wow, that sounds absolutely awesome. The work unit scheme, with the bonuses, penalizes you a lot if you don't run 24/7. That's why my 24-hour average is a lot lower than the PPD my CPU and GPU can generate; I use the system for gaming sometimes, and at least currently shut down while sleeping.

Which would be because my regular internet connection is still down, so I'm still using my phone for tethering. But my phone is also my alarm clock, so no internet connection at night -> might as well not fold, since a completed WU would just sit there uselessly anyway.

I'm not sure I can adequately convey the horror of going from a 40/5 connection with only a "fair use" cap of ~1TB per month to a mobile connection with a 20 GB cap... and adding even 10 GB costs $25!

 

[JPNpower]

Might not be the best of news, particularly for those with constantly slow and iffy internet connections, but all progress has it's downsides. However, this does seem spectacular when combined with the recent Chrome app. Now if they could develop an easier way to configure the program to run on weaker, older, or more compact (ITX, laptops) systems without frying the chips, that would be golden. But that is more of a surface GUI thing than fundamental core stuff, so should be relatively easy.

Looks good overall I guess!

 

[Unolocogringo]

Picked up an R9 290, OC'ed to 1000mhz, can't say I'm blown away with the ppd, 110k-150k!

Seems to spike a bit when folding, usage dips from 100% like for a second but does it quite regularly??

Had this problem before with newer cards on older boards will try and get a better board to try it on.

All three of my cards exhibit the same symptoms on core 17 units.. With a constant drop in gpu load.
99.99,99,99,99,97,99,98,99,96,99,98,99,99,99,99,99,99,97,99,98,99.97,99, almost a perfect rhythm to it.
One a 650ti boost is running under Lubuntu with a AMD 7750@3.0 feeding it . 4 gig of DDR2-800 4/4/4.
The other 2 are GTX460s with a AMD 960T with 6 cores@3.5 .8gig DDR3-1600 9/9/9.
So I have tried everything I know of to get a solid 99% useage to no avail.

Welcome back and don't be such a stranger whether you are folding or not.
Congrats on the Daughter and I know how hectic and demanding the first few months are.

 

[Mousemonkey]

None of the current cores use double precision, so although Hawaii does have less DP than Tahiti, it isn't an issue here.

Many of the newer projects (9406, 9408, 9101, 9201, etc.) have a lot more variability between Runs. This is due to the initial conditions (the initial protein structure) of some Runs requiring a larger "water box" than others. While the size of the protein is the same (same number of protein atoms) more water molecules means more computations (and thus slower progress, lower PPD). On some of the really bad ones the project is split so that the slower Runs can be given more points.

There is a new core in development (which Mousemonkey should like). Based off of a new version of OpenMM, it does away with the concept of "Work Units" and instead streams the work. If you want to run for 1 minute or 15 days you can. The work is sent back at regular intervals (so power failure -> no lost work) and when you stop (so gaming isn't slowing the work down). Still very much in the alpha stage, but a great development for part time and full time folders. Also the first stab at having CPUs and GPU work on the exact same work (rather than having separate Projects), however the CPU core still needs a lot of optimization. You can read more here: https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=26218

Hasn't the OpenMM core been around for quite a while now?

 

[beanoslim]

Picked up an R9 290, OC'ed to 1000mhz, can't say I'm blown away with the ppd, 110k-150k!

Seems to spike a bit when folding, usage dips from 100% like for a second but does it quite regularly??

Had this problem before with newer cards on older boards will try and get a better board to try it on.

All three of my cards exhibit the same symptoms on core 17 units.. With a constant drop in gpu load.
99.99,99,99,99,97,99,98,99,96,99,98,99,99,99,99,99,99,97,99,98,99.97,99, almost a perfect rhythm to it.
One a 650ti boost is running under Lubuntu with a AMD 7750@3.0 feeding it . 4 gig of DDR2-800 4/4/4.
The other 2 are GTX460s with a AMD 960T with 6 cores@3.5 .8gig DDR3-1600 9/9/9.
So I have tried everything I know of to get a solid 99% useage to no avail.

Welcome back and don't be such a stranger whether you are folding or not.
Congrats on the Daughter and I know how hectic and demanding the first few months are.

Think its more to do with the board/cpu I am running it on an nForce 720a and Athlonx2 215 (2700mhz), yikes!!!

Its actually dropping to anything from 3 to 27% just for a second then back to 100%

Baby life is going well, she's a real doll, but I would say that, got the barebones of a rig set up in garage, out of sight and all that

 

[anti-painkilla]

Picked up an R9 290, OC'ed to 1000mhz, can't say I'm blown away with the ppd, 110k-150k!

Seems to spike a bit when folding, usage dips from 100% like for a second but does it quite regularly??

Had this problem before with newer cards on older boards will try and get a better board to try it on.

All three of my cards exhibit the same symptoms on core 17 units.. With a constant drop in gpu load.
99.99,99,99,99,97,99,98,99,96,99,98,99,99,99,99,99,99,97,99,98,99.97,99, almost a perfect rhythm to it.
One a 650ti boost is running under Lubuntu with a AMD 7750@3.0 feeding it . 4 gig of DDR2-800 4/4/4.
The other 2 are GTX460s with a AMD 960T with 6 cores@3.5 .8gig DDR3-1600 9/9/9.
So I have tried everything I know of to get a solid 99% useage to no avail.

Welcome back and don't be such a stranger whether you are folding or not.
Congrats on the Daughter and I know how hectic and demanding the first few months are.

Think its more to do with the board/cpu I am running it on an nForce 720a and Athlonx2 215 (2700mhz), yikes!!!

Its actually dropping to anything from 3 to 27% just for a second then back to 100%

Baby life is going well, she's a real doll, but I would say that, got the barebones of a rig set up in garage, out of sight and all that

I get this as well with my 280X. I run MSI afterburner and it will just have the occasional drop from 99% all the way down for a few seconds then back up. This doesn't seem to effect the fan speed, maybe it just needs a break every so often? Rocking a GA-H67MA-USB3-B3.

Still haven't gotten around to RMA'ing my card. Might do it this weekend as I will be away. Don't wanna lose those PPDs.