Folding@Home: THGC Needs You -Team 40051

[beanoslim]

If you have win 7, use the snipping utility for screen capture.

Please enlighten us Elel.

Is there a way of selecting sections as opposed to the whole screen?

 

[elel]

The snipping tool comes with windows 7 (I don't know about vista), and can be found by searching for it in the start menu. When you run it, it dakens the whole screen and gives you a small window and a + shaped cursor. You can use the cursor to drag over any region of the screen (or the whole thing), and the area selected will resume its norman brightness. When you let up the mouse button, you are given the option of saving you selection a picture.

 

[beanoslim]

Ok, sounds good, I'll have a go later.

Just tried running 1xGTX460 with the bigadv wu and it slowed it down by 4-5 mins per frame/section.

It also dropped the ppd by nearly 5k, didn't think 1 gpu would effect it that much.

 

[shovenose]

press ALT+PrtScr at the same time, it only takes a screenshot of the active window, not the entire screen. then paste into paint or photoshop or whatever

 

[beanoslim]

If you have win 7, use the snipping utility for screen capture.

Hey it works pretty well, thanks. 😀

 

[elel]

You're welcome

 

[AK419]

press ALT+PrtScr at the same time, it only takes a screenshot of the active window, not the entire screen. then paste into paint or photoshop or whatever

That works, even for Ubuntu. Thanks for the tips.

 

[lilcinw]

Hi all. I just started folding on sat and spent 4 days reading the entire thread. I am currently folding only on my HD 4650 low profile, which HFM shows as hitting the 850 PPD range. This is using 50-60% CPU already on my older C2D and my wife is already complaining about the system performance and noise so I am leery of adding a CPU client on top of that. I have a Dell 531S (slim case) which I leave open because of the terrible cooling performance. Does anyone know if 30% of a C2D can even finish a WU before the deadline?

Side note: Thanks for the Snipping Tool info. I am taking MCTS classes and we are constantly taking screens of virtual machines for labs and the Snipping Tool is much more reliable than the old Print Screen key.

 

[AK419]

Hi all. I just started folding on sat and spent 4 days reading the entire thread. I am currently folding only on my HD 4650 low profile, which HFM shows as hitting the 850 PPD range. This is using 50-60% CPU already on my older C2D and my wife is already complaining about the system performance and noise so I am leery of adding a CPU client on top of that. I have a Dell 531S (slim case) which I leave open because of the terrible cooling performance. Does anyone know if 30% of a C2D can even finish a WU before the deadline?

You may want to try playing with the environment variables setting to see if it helps:

Hey now, This Works! 😀
(and there are settings for Nvidia cards there also)

I plugged in the suggested values for Environment Variables:

FLUSH_INTERVAL = 128
BROOK_YIELD = 2
CAL_PRE_FLUSH = 1
CAL_NO_FLUSH = 0

Now my GPU (folding operations) is more than triple, and my CPU usage is 2% for the FahCore_11.exe.
System Idle Process went to 88%

You may need to play around with the values since those are for HD3870. Here is the link for a more detail explanation of those variables. [strike]ATI[/strike] AMD 😛 info can be find in the middle of the page.

 

[lilcinw]

Thanks for the tip. I had read that but I wasn't confident enough to try it. On my HD 4650 I applied these: FLUSH_INTERVAL = 64
BROOK_YIELD = 2
CAL_PRE_FLUSH = 1
CAL_NO_FLUSH = 0
Now FahCore_11.exe is running under 1% and I have to check GPU-Z to see if FAH is even working.
GPU 100% + CPU 0% = Awesome!
Maybe its time to load a CPU client.

 

[elkein]

Captured with windows 7 "snip"

and pasted to a web folder.

 

[beanoslim]

^ HA I like it.

Huh, why so small?

 

[beanoslim]

press ALT+PrtScr at the same time, it only takes a screenshot of the active window, not the entire screen. then paste into paint or photoshop or whatever

Yah, sweet, so its ALT+PrtSc for individual windows and Fn+PrtSc for the whole screen.

SN are you a Community Reporter anymore?

 

[beanoslim]

Here is the comment line for my BigAdv:
wine Folding@home-Win32-x86.exe -bigadv -smp -verbosity 9
You may want to drop the "wine" if you are using Windows. 😛

So is this line in the shortcut properties like this..check out the snipping.

What about in the additional parameters section of the initial setup, does that neem the -smp 7 flag also?

 

[warmon6]

Hey guys, im not sure which WU these servers give out but I just got some news that 2 servers are down for hardware replacement/upgrades.

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=14714&start=60#p172710

So there might be some WU outage.

 

[AK419]

So is this line in the shortcut properties like this..check out the snipping.

Yes, that's how I enter all the "flags" for my Windows based clients. Never used the additional parameters section in the config before.

BTW, what speed is your 920 at? Any problem meeting the deadline for the BigAdv using "smp 7"?

 

[beanoslim]

Yes, that's how I enter all the "flags" for my Windows based clients. Never used the additional parameters section in the config before.

Yep I think thats what I'm going to stick with now, my confusion was happening because I had already set the -smp flag in additional parameters then I tried to add -smp 7 in the shortcut bit like you said.

BTW, what speed is your 920 at? Any problem meeting the deadline for the BigAdv using "smp 7"?

ATM its @3.8ghz and running -smp its well within time limit @34 mins per frame.
Switching to -smp 7 it went up to 36 mins per frame so still fine.

Just not too happy about the slowdown when the GPU client is running, 38/39 mins per frame.

Still I'll see what else I can get out of the 920, its only @1.2v, should make 4ghz. 😀

 

[shovenose]

Yah, sweet, so its ALT+PrtSc for individual windows and Fn+PrtSc for the whole screen.

SN are you a Community Reporter anymore?

i got kicked out because of agreeing with somebody about that tomshardware psu reviews were biased bs.

oh well

 

[warmon6]

Yes, that's how I enter all the "flags" for my Windows based clients. Never used the additional parameters section in the config before.

Yep I think thats what I'm going to stick with now, my confusion was happening because I had already set the -smp flag in additional parameters then I tried to add -smp 7 in the shortcut bit like you said.

BTW, what speed is your 920 at? Any problem meeting the deadline for the BigAdv using "smp 7"?

ATM its @3.8ghz and running -smp its well within time limit @34 mins per frame.
Switching to -smp 7 it went up to 36 mins per frame so still fine.

Just not too happy about the slowdown when the GPU client is running, 38/39 mins per frame.

Still I'll see what else I can get out of the 920, its only @1.2v, should make 4ghz. 😀

Yeah your definitly not the only one with this issue. A lot of other people over a variety of forums have notice this as well with gpu3 slowing down smp2.

Some of them even with SR2 dual 6 core cpu setup have just when strictly Bigadv because of it.

(Although i see your getting some good help with the Experts on the Folding Forums. )

 

[beanoslim]

i got kicked out because of agreeing with somebody about that tomshardware psu reviews were biased bs.

oh well

I read that thread, it was a bit heavy and the OP was deliberately winding people up, although I thought you got more abuse than you gave.

So when you joining the team.

 

[beanoslim]

Yeah your definitly not the only one with this issue. A lot of other people over a variety of forums have notice this as well with gpu3 slowing down smp2.

Some of them even with SR2 dual 6 core cpu setup have just when strictly Bigadv because of it.

(Although i see your getting some good help with the Experts on the Folding Forums. )

Yeah seems to be the case, got a few things to try but seems it adds 4-5 mins per frame per card.

Yes I posted here and there to get a better overall picture of things, they have some good debates over there.
Theres a member on their Forum with a dog just like yours.

4 hours to go before I drop my 1st bomb. [:beanoslim:5] [Credit-71423][:beanoslim:6]

 

[alyoshka]

Well, I just got onto the SMP client thing on one machine, lets see if it benefits, by the way I have another machine with 2 useless GPUs in it also running 24/7 the GPUs are 7300GS & 8400GS..... My question, will they be bought to use if I was to install the SMP client on that machine? or will they just be useless as they are now?

 

[beanoslim]

So you have the high performance smp2 client installed, whats the setup in that machine?

If you install the smp2 client into the machines with the cards the cards won't be used, the cpu will.

If you installed the gpu2 client then those cards could fold away for a couple 1000 ppd. 😀

 

[alyoshka]

Don't ask cos it's not a high performance machine, but, one thing is for sure it's dedicated just to folding....... it's an Athlon II X4 620 with MSI790FX GD70 Mobo and 8 GB of RAM, it's got those 2 Cards (GPUs) in it and I'll be putting whatever else I have left on the rig too..... It has enough PCIe Slots so, that's not the issue, the main thing was could somebody make use of the machine... and looks like someone can.... Thanx...

 

[beanoslim]

Don't ask cos it's not a high performance machine, but, one thing is for sure it's dedicated just to folding....... it's an Athlon II X4 620 with MSI790FX GD70 Mobo and 8 GB of RAM, it's got those 2 Cards (GPUs) in it and I'll be putting whatever else I have left on the rig too..... It has enough PCIe Slots so, that's not the issue, the main thing was could somebody make use of the machine... and looks like someone can.... Thanx...

Nothing wrong with the x4 620 for folding smp.

Try it with the cards hooked up to see how it effects your cpu frame times.

You may need to set it -smp 3 to free up a core for the gpu's but you may be ok.

Other way to check is just run the cards with coretemp open and see what % of cpu is being used.