For those who print on CD-Rs...

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To those who print directly on CD-Rs, do you have trouble with ink
smearing? I give folks lots of music CD-Rs that I'd like to print
directly on and not have them complain they touched it with wet
fingers, wiped it dry only to have the ink come off... Opinions?
Experiences?

Thanks for reading...

Allan.

 

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"Just Allan" <justallan@COLDhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> To those who print directly on CD-Rs, do you have trouble with ink
> smearing? I give folks lots of music CD-Rs that I'd like to print
> directly on and not have them complain they touched it with wet
> fingers, wiped it dry only to have the ink come off... Opinions?
> Experiences?

Never had a problem (using printable CDs) - dry as soon as it comes out of
the printer. Printer: Canon i865.

Wouldn't touch it with wet fingers - it's a water-based ink.

 

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On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 21:28:26 +1000, "Walter Plinge"
<walterplinge@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>> To those who print directly on CD-Rs, do you have trouble with ink
>> smearing? I give folks lots of music CD-Rs that I'd like to print
>> directly on and not have them complain they touched it with wet
>> fingers, wiped it dry only to have the ink come off... Opinions?
>> Experiences?
>
>Never had a problem (using printable CDs) - dry as soon as it comes out of
>the printer. Printer: Canon i865.
>
>Wouldn't touch it with wet fingers - it's a water-based ink.

Hm... The reason I ask is, lots of people mistreat their CDs, then
some of them get out the glass cleaner to wipe off the fingerprints.
I really hate to think I might have to go with epson, just to get
waterproof/durable ink. Grrr...

Allan.

 

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Just Allan wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 21:28:26 +1000, "Walter Plinge"
> <walterplinge@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>>To those who print directly on CD-Rs, do you have trouble with ink
>>>smearing? I give folks lots of music CD-Rs that I'd like to print
>>>directly on and not have them complain they touched it with wet
>>>fingers, wiped it dry only to have the ink come off... Opinions?
>>>Experiences?
>>
>>Never had a problem (using printable CDs) - dry as soon as it comes out of
>>the printer. Printer: Canon i865.
>>
>>Wouldn't touch it with wet fingers - it's a water-based ink.
>
>
> Hm... The reason I ask is, lots of people mistreat their CDs, then
> some of them get out the glass cleaner to wipe off the fingerprints.
> I really hate to think I might have to go with epson, just to get
> waterproof/durable ink. Grrr...
>

I make very elaborate CDs, Greeting cards and fancy booklets for people
too, using Canon's water sensitive inks. I also caution them. After that
it's out of my hands what they do with their CDs, etc. Stop worrying
about others and use equipment that you're happiest with. ;-)

-Taliesyn

 

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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:35:40 -0400, Taliesyn <taliesyn4@netscape.net>
wrote:

| > Hm... The reason I ask is, lots of people mistreat their CDs, then
| > some of them get out the glass cleaner to wipe off the fingerprints.
| > I really hate to think I might have to go with epson, just to get
| > waterproof/durable ink. Grrr...
| >
|
| I make very elaborate CDs, Greeting cards and fancy booklets for people
| too, using Canon's water sensitive inks. I also caution them. After that
| it's out of my hands what they do with their CDs, etc. Stop worrying
| about others and use equipment that you're happiest with. ;-)

This is a bit OT, but what have you found to be the best printable CDs
and DVDs? I have an Epson R200, which does an outstanding job with
photos, but CD printed images look a little "thin." I'm really new to
this and have only used Maxell silver-surface printables so far.

TIA!

Larc



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Larc wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:35:40 -0400, Taliesyn <taliesyn4@netscape.net>
> wrote:
>
> | > Hm... The reason I ask is, lots of people mistreat their CDs, then
> | > some of them get out the glass cleaner to wipe off the fingerprints.
> | > I really hate to think I might have to go with epson, just to get
> | > waterproof/durable ink. Grrr...
> | >
> |
> | I make very elaborate CDs, Greeting cards and fancy booklets for people
> | too, using Canon's water sensitive inks. I also caution them. After that
> | it's out of my hands what they do with their CDs, etc. Stop worrying
> | about others and use equipment that you're happiest with. ;-)
>
> This is a bit OT, but what have you found to be the best printable CDs
> and DVDs? I have an Epson R200, which does an outstanding job with
> photos, but CD printed images look a little "thin." I'm really new to
> this and have only used Maxell silver-surface printables so far.
>

Sorry, perhaps I mislead you, I don't print directly on the CDs.
I use the "old-fashioned" paper labels. But the logic's the same,
I warn (first time recipients) verbally or with an enclosed note
to be careful with the label and CD liners as they will smudge if
handled with wet or moist fingers.

I like my Meritline high gloss paper labels, bought on eBay.

-Taliesyn

 

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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:27:52 GMT, Larc <larc-news@jupiterlink.net>
wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:35:40 -0400, Taliesyn <taliesyn4@netscape.net>
>wrote:
>
>| > Hm... The reason I ask is, lots of people mistreat their CDs, then
>| > some of them get out the glass cleaner to wipe off the fingerprints.
>| > I really hate to think I might have to go with epson, just to get
>| > waterproof/durable ink. Grrr...
>| >
>|
>| I make very elaborate CDs, Greeting cards and fancy booklets for people
>| too, using Canon's water sensitive inks. I also caution them. After that
>| it's out of my hands what they do with their CDs, etc. Stop worrying
>| about others and use equipment that you're happiest with. ;-)
>
>This is a bit OT, but what have you found to be the best printable CDs
>and DVDs? I have an Epson R200, which does an outstanding job with
>photos, but CD printed images look a little "thin." I'm really new to
>this and have only used Maxell silver-surface printables so far.
>
You sure they are printable?

All the printable ones I've seen have a white coating on top. Verbatim
for example.

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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 02:24:30 +0100, Hecate <hecate@newsguy.com> wrote:

| >This is a bit OT, but what have you found to be the best printable CDs
| >and DVDs? I have an Epson R200, which does an outstanding job with
| >photos, but CD printed images look a little "thin." I'm really new to
| >this and have only used Maxell silver-surface printables so far.
| >
| You sure they are printable?
|
| All the printable ones I've seen have a white coating on top. Verbatim
| for example.

Absolutely. These are the ones I got:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-132-910&depa=0

Ink won't even adhere to non-printable CD-R surfaces and can be
completely wiped off with a soft tissue.

I've learned since I posted my question that there's a setting in the
Epsom software I had missed that corrects the problem.

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There are several different color surfaces for the inkjet printable CD's. I
use the Memorex ones with the white surface.

The Epson R800 uses pigmented inks. I have the R300 and haven't had a
problems with the ink if I cleaned the cd.



"Just Allan" <justallan@COLDhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> To those who print directly on CD-Rs, do you have trouble with ink
> smearing? I give folks lots of music CD-Rs that I'd like to print
> directly on and not have them complain they touched it with wet
> fingers, wiped it dry only to have the ink come off... Opinions?
> Experiences?
>
> Thanks for reading...
>
> Allan.

 

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In article <fpkue0ltnveer7mo94dq2etg8n449fgfc0@4ax.com>,
Larc <larc-news@jupiterlink.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 02:24:30 +0100, Hecate <hecate@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> | >This is a bit OT, but what have you found to be the best printable CDs
> | >and DVDs? I have an Epson R200, which does an outstanding job with
> | >photos, but CD printed images look a little "thin." I'm really new to
> | >this and have only used Maxell silver-surface printables so far.
> | >
> | You sure they are printable?
> |
> | All the printable ones I've seen have a white coating on top. Verbatim
> | for example.
>
> Absolutely. These are the ones I got:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-132-910&depa=0
>
> Ink won't even adhere to non-printable CD-R surfaces and can be
> completely wiped off with a soft tissue.
>
> I've learned since I posted my question that there's a setting in the
> Epsom software I had missed that corrects the problem.
>
> Larc

I have an Epson R200, and tried printing on a Verbatum ValuLife
white-top CD-R coaster I had laying around, just to see if it would work.

The ink didn't stick, even after leaving it to dry for 24 hours. That
white surface wasn't designed for ink-jet printing.

You need to use CD-Rs that are advertised as printable.

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In article <d9dte09tm2sjbcrar119a6f0le3h7ig2gi@4ax.com>,
justallan@COLDhotmail.com says...
> I really hate to think I might have to go with epson, just to get
> waterproof/durable ink. Grrr...
>
>
>
Where do you get that idea? Epson R300/R200 use water soluble ink as
well.

 

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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:35:40 -0400, Taliesyn <taliesyn4@netscape.net>
wrote:

>>>>To those who print directly on CD-Rs, do you have trouble with ink
>>>>smearing? I give folks lots of music CD-Rs that I'd like to print
>>>>directly on and not have them complain they touched it with wet
>>>>fingers, wiped it dry only to have the ink come off... Opinions?
>>>>Experiences?
>>>
>>>Never had a problem (using printable CDs) - dry as soon as it comes out of
>>>the printer. Printer: Canon i865.
>>>
>>>Wouldn't touch it with wet fingers - it's a water-based ink.
>>
>> Hm... The reason I ask is, lots of people mistreat their CDs, then
>> some of them get out the glass cleaner to wipe off the fingerprints.
>> I really hate to think I might have to go with epson, just to get
>> waterproof/durable ink. Grrr...
>
>I make very elaborate CDs, Greeting cards and fancy booklets for people
>too, using Canon's water sensitive inks. I also caution them. After that
>it's out of my hands what they do with their CDs, etc. Stop worrying
>about others and use equipment that you're happiest with. ;-)

I bought an i965 today - and the epson will be going to printer hell.

 

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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:27:52 GMT, Larc <larc-news@jupiterlink.net>
wrote:

>This is a bit OT, but what have you found to be the best printable CDs
>and DVDs? I have an Epson R200, which does an outstanding job with
>photos, but CD printed images look a little "thin." I'm really new to
>this and have only used Maxell silver-surface printables so far.

Now I'm *really* getting confused. I asked at the last computer
market, if they could get printable, silver CD-R discs. The asian
woman said, no, they don't make them - to just use printable DVD-R,
that they'd also work as CD-R discs. I pointed out that they looked
white, and she said it was just a plastic "blank" and the DVD-Rs
underneath that one were silver.

Then today's computer market, a different guy tells me the DVD-R discs
won't work as CD-Rs (for a normal music CD player) - and - no-one
makes silver printable CD-R discs - AND - no-one makes printable CD-R
at all. (Printable DVD only.) An Australian guy next to me at the
table chimed in and agreed with him.

Then I walk to the VERY NEXT table and find... Printable CD-R discs
(white) and a stack of the same printable DVDs that the first woman
said were silver and get told they really are white top after all.

ARGH!!! Don't these people know anything about the things they sell!?

Can anyone tell me for certain:

1. Do inkjet printable CD-R discs exist that are plain silver on the
top (not white)?

2. Do inkjet printable DVD-R discs exist that are plain silver (not
white)?

Sure would be nice to hear from someone who knows what they're talking
about for a change! : )

Allan.

 

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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:44:40 +1200, colinco <colincomma@yawhoo.com>
wrote:

>> I really hate to think I might have to go with epson, just to get
>> waterproof/durable ink. Grrr...
>>
>Where do you get that idea? Epson R300/R200 use water soluble ink as
>well.

Oh - that durbrite stuff they go on about. Water resistant/proof
supposedly. The local store has a gimmic jar of water with an epson
print curled up inside to show the ink doesn't disolve in water.

Too late now, I bought the i965 today!

Allan.

 

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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 21:16:55 -0400, Taliesyn <taliesyn4@netscape.net>
wrote:


>Sorry, perhaps I mislead you, I don't print directly on the CDs.
>I use the "old-fashioned" paper labels. But the logic's the same,
>I warn (first time recipients) verbally or with an enclosed note
>to be careful with the label and CD liners as they will smudge if
>handled with wet or moist fingers.

Ah, OK. Doesn't happen with pigment inks.

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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 02:41:19 +0100, Hecate <hecate@newsguy.com> wrote:

>>Sorry, perhaps I mislead you, I don't print directly on the CDs.
>>I use the "old-fashioned" paper labels. But the logic's the same,
>>I warn (first time recipients) verbally or with an enclosed note
>>to be careful with the label and CD liners as they will smudge if
>>handled with wet or moist fingers.
>
>Ah, OK. Doesn't happen with pigment inks.

There's a guy that posted his site in here a few days ago (or was it
on google I saw it?) that shows the inks everyone calls pigmented are
not really pigment at all.

Allan.

 

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In article <ra00f01pn58lj7hkddgtsllouu8lht4v9l@4ax.com>,
justallan@COLDhotmail.com (Just Allan) wrote:

> There's a guy that posted his site in here a few days ago (or was it
> on google I saw it?) that shows the inks everyone calls pigmented are
> not really pigment at all.

Pigmented inks are dye-based inks with added pigments. They're different
from pigment-based inks.

If that's not what you (or the guy with the site) mean. then I'd be
interested in the URL if you can find it.

Jon.

 

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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:18 +0100 (BST), Jon@NOonlySPAMbrowsingTHANX.com
(Jon O'Brien) wrote:

>In article <ra00f01pn58lj7hkddgtsllouu8lht4v9l@4ax.com>,
>justallan@COLDhotmail.com (Just Allan) wrote:
>
>> There's a guy that posted his site in here a few days ago (or was it
>> on google I saw it?) that shows the inks everyone calls pigmented are
>> not really pigment at all.
>
>Pigmented inks are dye-based inks with added pigments. They're different
>from pigment-based inks.
>
>If that's not what you (or the guy with the site) mean. then I'd be
>interested in the URL if you can find it.

I can't find it. It was a page on an ink supplier's site that
frequents this group I think. Basically he was getting complaints
from a few customers that his refills were not pigment, when epson
stated that particular cartridge used pigment ink. He then went on to
show how it was a mistake in epson's specs that had been copied by
various other sites selling epson ink. He then went on to show why it
could not be pigment ink because the two inks cannot mix. (Or
something very similar to this.)

Allan.

 

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In article <lc20f05qlijs4btcea5f4j3q5sbgsq1pau@4ax.com>,
justallan@COLDhotmail.com (Just Allan) wrote:

> It was a page on an ink supplier's site that frequents this group I
> think.

Is this it?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2FB126C8

If so, it refers to one Canon printer, the BCI-6, not pigment inks in
general.

Hecate's right, pigment inks don't smear or run when they get wet.

Jon.

 

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Just Allan <justallan@COLDhotmail.com> wrote in
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>
> ARGH!!! Don't these people know anything about the things they sell!?
>
> Can anyone tell me for certain:
>
> 1. Do inkjet printable CD-R discs exist that are plain silver on the
> top (not white)?
>
> 2. Do inkjet printable DVD-R discs exist that are plain silver (not
> white)?
>
> Sure would be nice to hear from someone who knows what they're talking
> about for a change! : )
>
> Allan.

I've been buying these for my R300....Quite satisfactory!

Taiyo Yuden Silver Inkjet Hub Printable CDR Media - 700MB/80 Minute
Capacity - 48X Certified/52X Compatible

http://www.cddimensions.com/cd-r_media/tai-cdr80sphp.asp

TAI-CDR80WPHP Taiyo Yuden White Inkjet Hub
Printable CDR Media - 700MB/80 Minute Capacity - 48X Certified/ 52X
Compatible


Mitsui Everest Edge2Edge White Printable 4.7 GB DVD-R Media - 4X Certified
In Cakebox - For General Purpose

Mitsui Everest Edge2Edge Silver Printable 4.7 GB DVD-R Media - 4X Certified
In Cakebox - For General Purpose

 

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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:08 +0100 (BST), Jon@NOonlySPAMbrowsingTHANX.com
(Jon O'Brien) wrote:

>Is this it?
>
>http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2FB126C8

Oops, yep that's it - thought it was an epson.

 

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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:35:00 GMT, Yer Welcome <nospam@ooo.net> wrote:

>Taiyo Yuden Silver Inkjet Hub Printable CDR Media - 700MB/80 Minute
>Capacity - 48X Certified/52X Compatible
>
>http://www.cddimensions.com/cd-r_media/tai-cdr80sphp.asp

Thanks - I'll have a look... Do the plain silver ones have ANY
writing on them at all (including no inner circle brand name etc.?)

>TAI-CDR80WPHP Taiyo Yuden White Inkjet Hub
>Printable CDR Media - 700MB/80 Minute Capacity - 48X Certified/ 52X
>Compatible
>
>Mitsui Everest Edge2Edge Silver Printable 4.7 GB DVD-R Media - 4X Certified
>In Cakebox - For General Purpose

 

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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:41:32 +1000, Just Allan
<justallan@COLDhotmail.com> wrote:

| Can anyone tell me for certain:
|
| 1. Do inkjet printable CD-R discs exist that are plain silver on the
| top (not white)?

Yes! I recently bought a 100-pack of Maxell printable CD-Rs from
Newegg. They are not shiny silver, but matte silver. Check here:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-132-910&depa=0

Those Maxell's are listed as 48x, but they burn at 52x flawlessly on
my Lite-On.

| 2. Do inkjet printable DVD-R discs exist that are plain silver (not
| white)?

Sorry I can't answer that first hand. But Maxell claims to have even
a shiny silver printable DVD and Taiyo Yuden has silver matte, among
others. Check this Yahoo page:

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cdrdvdrmedia/printabledvdr.html

Most shown are white, but there are certainly some silvers. Prices
aren't especially good at Yahoo, BTW.

HTH!

Larc



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Just Allan <justallan@COLDhotmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:44:40 +1200, colinco <colincomma@yawhoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>> I really hate to think I might have to go with epson, just to get
>>> waterproof/durable ink. Grrr...
>>>
>>Where do you get that idea? Epson R300/R200 use water soluble ink as
>>well.
>
>Oh - that durbrite stuff they go on about. Water resistant/proof
>supposedly. The local store has a gimmic jar of water with an epson
>print curled up inside to show the ink doesn't disolve in water.
>
>Too late now, I bought the i965 today!
>
>Allan.

I just put a photo done on my i9900 in a jar of water and then took it
out, shook the excess water off, and carefully blotted it dry.
Side-by-side with the same print not dipped you only see a difference
if you hold it this way and that and peer at it intently. The dye
certainly didn't run. You could happily still put it in an album
especially under plastic or under glass and no one would notice.
However, I don't know what would happen if I left it to soak for a
long period of time.

 

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"Just Allan" <justallan@COLDhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:27:52 GMT, Larc <larc-news@jupiterlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >This is a bit OT, but what have you found to be the best printable CDs
> >and DVDs? I have an Epson R200, which does an outstanding job with
> >photos, but CD printed images look a little "thin." I'm really new to
> >this and have only used Maxell silver-surface printables so far.
>
> Now I'm *really* getting confused. I asked at the last computer
> market, if they could get printable, silver CD-R discs. The asian
> woman said, no, they don't make them - to just use printable DVD-R,
> that they'd also work as CD-R discs. I pointed out that they looked
> white, and she said it was just a plastic "blank" and the DVD-Rs
> underneath that one were silver.
>
> Then today's computer market, a different guy tells me the DVD-R discs
> won't work as CD-Rs (for a normal music CD player) - and - no-one
> makes silver printable CD-R discs - AND - no-one makes printable CD-R
> at all. (Printable DVD only.) An Australian guy next to me at the
> table chimed in and agreed with him.
>
> Then I walk to the VERY NEXT table and find... Printable CD-R discs
> (white) and a stack of the same printable DVDs that the first woman
> said were silver and get told they really are white top after all.
>
> ARGH!!! Don't these people know anything about the things they sell!?
>
> Can anyone tell me for certain:
>
> 1. Do inkjet printable CD-R discs exist that are plain silver on the
> top (not white)?
>
> 2. Do inkjet printable DVD-R discs exist that are plain silver (not
> white)?
>
> Sure would be nice to hear from someone who knows what they're talking
> about for a change! : )
>
> Allan.

Silver is for themo printers, suxh as Casio's. Most ink-jet printable CD/DVD
are white. They are not created equal and also depending on the kinds of
ink, so try one before buying in bulk.