I hate to reply to my own message but maybe some more info might help, this is my friends computer he said he had put sweet i.m. on it and did not like the way it looked so when he un-installed the program he could not go back on line, he did something wrong, when I looked at it you could not un-install anything, so I tryed to re-wright the drivers and it would not let me, kept on giving me errers, so I thought that he must have got a virus because the bios settings had changed, since I was the one that had put the computer together, so I started from scratch long format the drive and flash the cmos, It was hard to get to the little jumper so I pulled the battery out and back in, now zilch notta, so if anyone could give me some advice please let me know it will be much apprieciated.