Question FPS drops in game with OK hardware ?

[klaflo]

Hello,

Lately I have been having a problem with my computers performance and I have no idea what would be the cause. The issue starts to happen while I'm playing a computer game (LoL) at the later stages of the game, when the game becomes more complex due to action happening on the screen - but still with that setup I feel like the game should run on best settings and still have no performance drops. I play on low settings and optimized for performance and I get a lot of FPS drops which makes the game unplayable...

My setup is:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Super, 6GB
motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX
RAM: 16GB DDR4
Disk: SAMSUNG SSD disk 970 EVO PLUS 500GB M.2
monitor: Asus VG248

This is the upgraded version of my PC, I upgraded every single component other than the power supply (Could that be the problem anyways? Current power supply is 550W)

I used to run my OS on 144hz but because of performance drop I am running it at 120hz at the moment because it has better performance on it. Windows, GPU and in game settings are set to 120hz. Connection between GPU and monitor is displayport which was replaced so that I can remove the tought of cable being bad.

I have changed default CPU cooler with a better version of it due to high CPU temps on idle and ingame. Also I undervolted it but the issue still persists.

My GPU has latest drivers and Windows OS was freshly installed on new disc. Also nvidia control panel settings are set for maximum performance (disabled vSync...)

Thank you for your help and time =)

 

[velocityg4]

Are you using VSync or Triple buffering? Those can sometimes cause lag.

 

[logainofhades]

What is the make/model of the power supply? Wattage tells us nothing. Did you enable XMP, for your ram? What is the make/model of your ram?

 

[klaflo]

Model of power supply is fractal design 600W. XMP is enabled in bios. Model of ram is HyperX Fury 16GB, DDR4, 3200 MHz

 

[logainofhades]

Were you sure to put them in the proper slots, for dual channel, as per your manual? What specific model of Fractal 600w?

 

[Karadjgne]

Windows just had a major update, so make sure power plan settings are good, and also other display or power oriented settings as they definitely got messed with.

Might need to update the bios and/or motherboard chipset drivers with the new update. Any changes to Windows deletes the windows/drivers folder, and thats where chipset, equipment and additional dx files are stored. Reinstalling windows, you wiped everything out, only some nvidia specific drivers and windows factory drivers remain.

Cpu = fps limits, gpu = eye candy. So if you are on low settings and fps is nuts, it's not the gpu and seriously doubtful it's gpu drivers.

Might need to clean out the pc, multiple installs leave a ton of crud behind in temp files, which are addressed by the registry, which can cause delays, lag, dead ends, conflicts.

 

[klaflo]

Were you sure to put them in the proper slots, for dual channel, as per your manual? What specific model of Fractal 600w?

I have checked my MB's manual; Slot for 1 ram is DIMMA2 and my ram is in inserted in that slot. My power supply is fractal design FD-PSU-E51B-HV-600W
Model: HEC-600TC-2WB

 

[klaflo]

Windows just had a major update, so make sure power plan settings are good, and also other display or power oriented settings as they definitely got messed with.

Might need to update the bios and/or motherboard chipset drivers with the new update. Any changes to Windows deletes the windows/drivers folder, and thats where chipset, equipment and additional dx files are stored. Reinstalling windows, you wiped everything out, only some nvidia specific drivers and windows factory drivers remain.

Cpu = fps limits, gpu = eye candy. So if you are on low settings and fps is nuts, it's not the gpu and seriously doubtful it's gpu drivers.

Might need to clean out the pc, multiple installs leave a ton of crud behind in temp files, which are addressed by the registry, which can cause delays, lag, dead ends, conflicts.

Hello, but Windows was freshly installed how could that be the case?
My power settings are set to High performance with hard disc having "Turn hard dics off" to never

 

[klaflo]

Are you using VSync or Triple buffering? Those can sometimes cause lag.

Vsync off triple buffering off

 

[logainofhades]

I have checked my MB's manual; Slot for 1 ram is DIMMA2 and my ram is in inserted in that slot. My power supply is fractal design FD-PSU-E51B-HV-600W
Model: HEC-600TC-2WB

Wait, you are only running a single dimm? That is not doing you any favors. Also, that PSU is a terrible unit. HEC built PSU's are rarely good for anything more than a paperweight.

 

[klaflo]

Wait, you are only running a single dimm? That is not doing you any favors. Also, that PSU is a terrible unit. HEC built PSU's are rarely good for anything more than a paperweight.

Is there a problem running only 1 ram stick why is that not doing me and favour sorry for my poor knowledge...
Yes its a very old PSU it's the only thing that I did not replace since I thought it's not necessary because it only needs to power my components?

 

[Jacozeelie]

A power supply is the heart of your pc. A strong good psu means good healthy, clean power and current is supplied to components. Bad psu cause many problems

 

[klaflo]

A power supply is the heart of your pc. A strong good psu means good healthy, clean power and current is supplied to components. Bad psu cause many problems

So you are saying my PSU could be the problem?

 

[Jacozeelie]

Normaly a problematic psu will cause restarts or black screen or system instabality, but im not saying it is the problem but it might controbute to the problem.

 

[klaflo]

Normaly a problematic psu will cause restarts or black screen or system instabality, but im not saying it is the problem but it might controbute to the problem.

So you advice me to change my power supply unit?

 

[Jacozeelie]

Test your system with a diffrent psu, say a 650w perhaps.

 

[klaflo]

Test your system with a diffrent psu, say a 650w perhaps.

But when I calculate my consumption on PSU calculator online I get the result of 350W. Recommendation 600W
650 would be a waste of money don't we agree?

 

[Jacozeelie]

In my opinion, the less stress on your psu, the longer it will last. I personaly would get a 1000w psu for my pc if i could afford one.

 

[logainofhades]

Is there a problem running only 1 ram stick why is that not doing me and favour sorry for my poor knowledge...
Yes its a very old PSU it's the only thing that I did not replace since I thought it's not necessary because it only needs to power my components?

Single channel halves your ram bandwidth, hurting performance.

But when I calculate my consumption on PSU calculator online I get the result of 350W. Recommendation 600W
650 would be a waste of money don't we agree?

650w would not be a waste, as there aren't any good quality 600w units out there.

 

[klaflo]

Single channel halves your ram bandwidth, hurting performance.



650w would not be a waste, as there aren't any good quality 600w units out there.

Okay so then I will buy new 2x8gb 3600mhz sticks and 600/650w PSU;
Any recommendations I was looking at
PSU: https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/1279
RAM: https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr4/bl2k8g36c16u4b

 

[--SID--]

HEC built PSU's are rarely good for anything more than a paperweight.

That's nonsense. Don't rate by brand. HEC make good psu's like Cougar GX-F and Corsair CX- F.

Framedrops are not a psu issue.

So you advice me to change my power supply unit?

XMP enabled and it runs at 3200?

Single channel lowers the performance.

 

[klaflo]

That's nonsense. Don't rate by brand. HEC make good psu's like Cougar GX-F and Corsair CX- F.

Framedrops are not a psu issue.

XMP enabled and it runs at 3200?

Single channel lowers the performance.

Yes XMP is enabled. I'm looking to change up my RAM sticks right now to make is 2x8 for dual channel... Do you have any comments on the RAM,PSU listed above?

 

[--SID--]

Or buy the same 16GB module so you have 32GB dual channel.

Do you have a link where to buy a psu?

 

[klaflo]

Or buy the same 16GB module so you have 32GB dual channel.

Do you have a link where to buy a psu?

Personally I think 32GB is too much since I have never reached anywhere near 16GB usage at this point or what is your opinion?

Yes I linked the one that I was looking at today on top.
PSU: https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/1279

 

[logainofhades]

That's nonsense. Don't rate by brand. HEC make good psu's like Cougar GX-F and Corsair CX- F.

Framedrops are not a psu issue.

XMP enabled and it runs at 3200?

Single channel lowers the performance.

Even a broken clock is right, twice a day. HEC in general, sucks, period. Everyone can have a good unit or two, but it doesn't abolish their bad reputation. Just like a single dud, like the seasonic S12III, doesn't ruin Seasonic's reputation.