FX 8350 MASSIVE vDroop help

[Landon Warner]

I have an FX 8350 and recently upgraded to a CM Seidon 120m as a cooler it's great and I've just started overclocking I can only get my cpu to a stable 4.46 Ghz. I want to get to 4.6 and I know my cooler can handle as with prime95 I only reach 41 C. However I need my voltage extremely high to achieve 4.46 Ghz. I have my voltage at 1.435 eventhough it doesnt need to be. I get massive vDroop down to 1.32 when running IBT though. The only way I've found to improve this is to up the main vcore voltage so that when it droops it doesnt matter. I know about LLC and vcore offset but I dont have those options in my BIOS for some reason. I am running an MSI 970A-G43 on BIOS version 10.3. It is the latest for my motherboard. Is there anyway to either update my BIOS to an even newer version, stop vDroop a different way, or add the vcore offset option to my BIOS. Please help me.

Here are my specs:
AMD FX-8350 @ 4.46 Ghz. (Hopefully getting it to 4.5/6) w/ Cooler Master Seidon 120m
EVGA GTX 770 SC w/ ACX Cooling 4gb GDDR5
WD 640gb HDD
Seagate 1TB HDD
Corsair Gold certified 750w PSU
MSI 970A-G43
8 GB of some off brand DDR3 Ram at 1600 Mhz. (yes I have tried lowering its speed)

Please help me.

 

[someguynamedmatt]

The 970A-G43 is an inexpensive motherboard that has no VRM cooling if I remember correctly, and you're trying to overclock one of AMD's most power-hungry processors on it. I don't even see the 8350 in the official CPU support list for that matter. You're trying to make that motherboard do something it wasn't designed to do, and there's your problem. I don't think there's a whole lot you can do about it unless you'd like to purchase a better motherboard.

 

[bmacsys]

I have an FX 8350 and recently upgraded to a CM Seidon 120m as a cooler it's great and I've just started overclocking I can only get my cpu to a stable 4.46 Ghz. I want to get to 4.6 and I know my cooler can handle as with prime95 I only reach 41 C. However I need my voltage extremely high to achieve 4.46 Ghz. I have my voltage at 1.435 eventhough it doesnt need to be. I get massive vDroop down to 1.32 when running IBT though. The only way I've found to improve this is to up the main vcore voltage so that when it droops it doesnt matter. I know about LLC and vcore offset but I dont have those options in my BIOS for some reason. I am running an MSI 970A-G43 on BIOS version 10.3. It is the latest for my motherboard. Is there anyway to either update my BIOS to an even newer version, stop vDroop a different way, or add the vcore offset option to my BIOS. Please help me.

Here are my specs:
AMD FX-8350 @ 4.46 Ghz. (Hopefully getting it to 4.5/6) w/ Cooler Master Seidon 120m
EVGA GTX 770 SC w/ ACX Cooling 4gb GDDR5
WD 640gb HDD
Seagate 1TB HDD
Corsair Gold certified 750w PSU
MSI 970A-G43
8 GB of some off brand DDR3 Ram at 1600 Mhz. (yes I have tried lowering its speed)

Please help me.

Worst 990 board ever made. famous for vrm's bursting into flames.

 

[photonboy]

1) Just stick with whatever settings are STABLE. Getting to 4.6GHz instead of 4.46GHz isn't going to make much real-world difference.

That's at best a 3% improvement and likely 1% or less in the real-world.

2) Using a liquid cooler removes the CPU heat, but it also removes the air flow that the fan on a CPU air cooler would normally provide.

Thus the VRM's for the CPU will get hotter and since they are only designed for minimal overclocking without even heatsinks you'll have problems.

 

[bmacsys]

1) Just stick with whatever settings are STABLE. Getting to 4.6GHz instead of 4.46GHz isn't going to make much real-world difference.

That's at best a 3% improvement and likely 1% or less in the real-world.

2) Using a liquid cooler removes the CPU heat, but it also removes the air flow that the fan on a CPU air cooler would normally provide.

Thus the VRM's for the CPU will get hotter and since they are only designed for minimal overclocking without even heatsinks you'll have problems.

MSI actually has a disclaimer with that board that says it is not intended for overclocking.