Fx-8350 powerful enough for the GTX 1070

[Yummiesttag]

I have a fx-8350 stock clocks and I don't plan to overclock but do you guys think it will be able to handle the 1070 or would it bottle neck?

 

[RobCrezz]

I forgot that Fallout was using the Skyrim engine. Makes more sense now why the 1070 is doing poorly with the 8350. The only other game I think would be a major bottleneck would be Arma3. Most modern games are getting away from that older CPU coding so the FX and 1070 should do fine elsewhere.

Arma 3, H1Z1, Starcraft 2, DayZ, Rust, Arc, GTAV, every indie title, and any open-world looter shooter will be bottle-necked by the 8350 as these titles are single-threaded.

Overclocking helps a lot with gains up to 30-40%

You could make a pretty big list of single threaded games from 2014 on back that will struggle. But I still think moving forward the FX and 1070 will do fine together because single threaded coding is a thing of the past. The FX chips should age nicely. AMD had the right idea with multiple cores, but the timing was off.

Well not exactly, SMT or hyperthreading and using cores with high IPC is ultimately the superior design, hence why AMD are going that way with Zen.

The idea of multiple cores was going in the right direction. But nothing took advantage of them at the time. The FX chips do well with DOOM. Skyrim...not so much.

The FX 8350 and up should age well. New AM3 boards are being released with modern features which should give them a needed refresh.

Zen is the future of AMD for sure. But the FX chips are far from being obsolete. Buy a new board, graphics card and 1440p monitor and you are set for the near future with a FX chip.

Multiple cores is good, but not when you sacrifice IPC.

I disagree, you would have to be mad to buy an AM3 system right now, and I have a 8350.

 

[Themastererr]

i just can't understand why people have think they know what bottleneck is...

Bottleneck its a drop in general performance due to one particular piece of hardware not being able to keep up with the rest of the system.

A good example of bottleneck will be 4gb of ram for modern games like GTA V... the lack of ram might cause several framedrops and thats the way bottleneck works.

On the other hand the different hardwares have different performances, and that statement its more accurated when the particular software its added to the mix.

So depending on particular software and the ammount of process being executed by the system the Fx 8xxx will work closer to i7 or closer to i3 performance... BUT

there's no reason to think Fx8350 will bottleneck GTX1070, since it can handle GTX980 in 2x SLI. And on the other hand that's not the same as saying Fx8350 will get the best results out of the GTX1070 for every single game.

So to the very specific question made on this topic, NO, there's no real need to change your CPU in order to make the GTX1070 to run at his max. Even with no overclock, but again, a little overclock will indeed help.

I would keep posting links to validate my points of view, but noone cares, all the fanboysm its quite fact-proof.

PS: if the question where talked about GTX1070 paired with i7 3770k at stock i would have answered the same, and that CPU its the closest Intel counterpart of the Fx8350 (and i love that i7, for the record)

It's not that cut and dry. The 8350 has atrocious single-core performance and as such will bottleneck a 970 in some situations, never mind a 1070.

I love my FX CPU's and I'm already saving my pennies for Zen. That does not mean I will defend them when the facts are thrown in my face.

Some games won't be bottle-necked by the 8350. A very large handful of games will be.

 

[Akula93]

I forgot that Fallout was using the Skyrim engine. Makes more sense now why the 1070 is doing poorly with the 8350. The only other game I think would be a major bottleneck would be Arma3. Most modern games are getting away from that older CPU coding so the FX and 1070 should do fine elsewhere.

Arma 3, H1Z1, Starcraft 2, DayZ, Rust, Arc, GTAV, every indie title, and any open-world looter shooter will be bottle-necked by the 8350 as these titles are single-threaded.

Overclocking helps a lot with gains up to 30-40%

You could make a pretty big list of single threaded games from 2014 on back that will struggle. But I still think moving forward the FX and 1070 will do fine together because single threaded coding is a thing of the past. The FX chips should age nicely. AMD had the right idea with multiple cores, but the timing was off.

Well not exactly, SMT or hyperthreading and using cores with high IPC is ultimately the superior design, hence why AMD are going that way with Zen.

The idea of multiple cores was going in the right direction. But nothing took advantage of them at the time. The FX chips do well with DOOM. Skyrim...not so much.

The FX 8350 and up should age well. New AM3 boards are being released with modern features which should give them a needed refresh.

Zen is the future of AMD for sure. But the FX chips are far from being obsolete. Buy a new board, graphics card and 1440p monitor and you are set for the near future with a FX chip.

Multiple cores is good, but not when you sacrifice IPC.

I disagree, you would have to be mad to buy an AM3 system right now, and I have a 8350.

Building new really depends on the budget and what you are doing with the system. A budget AMD rig for 1440p isn't a crazy idea when you take into consideration the cost vs. performance. Personally, last night I dropped $2600 Canadian on a 5820k based system. I do gaming and 2D/3D design work on the same computer so the higher cost of the 5820k made sense.

If you already have a FX 8350 chip or higher, IMO building a all new i5 or i7 gaming system seems foolish if you are on a budget. You are getting minimal gains in the future for hundreds of dollars in extra cost. Use that money and make the AMD rig you have better. The cost of a new Intel chip could buy a nice 1440p monitor that will go nicely with a upgraded GPU like the GTX 1070.

 

[Jimmybuckets24]

I own an FX 8370 (stock speed) paired with a GTX 1070 Founder's Edition (stock speed) and have been running games fine at 1440p. Since my monitor is only 60 Hz, most of the games I play max at 60 FPS, so I am unaware of how high its potential can be with certain games. The only game I have had struggles with is Ark: Survival Evolved, which is not a well optimized game. I usually get 40-50 FPS. However, the FX 8370 and GTX 1070 have been running my Oculus Rift no problem. I have not had any problems or stutter with my system in VR or monitor gaming. If you have an FX 8350 or 8370, there is no need to upgrade to a i5 6600k or 6700k. You might get 10-20 frames in some games, but most games the FX 8370 is not far behind either of them. Thought you folks could use some real world experience on the subject of FX chips and GTX 1070. Let me know if you want to know anything more.

 

[LeKeiser]

I own an FX 8370 (stock speed) paired with a GTX 1070 Founder's Edition (stock speed) and have been running games fine at 1440p. Since my monitor is only 60 Hz, most of the games I play max at 60 FPS, so I am unaware of how high its potential can be with certain games. The only game I have had struggles with is Ark: Survival Evolved, which is not a well optimized game. I usually get 40-50 FPS. However, the FX 8370 and GTX 1070 have been running my Oculus Rift no problem. I have not had any problems or stutter with my system in VR or monitor gaming. If you have an FX 8350 or 8370, there is no need to upgrade to a i5 6600k or 6700k. You might get 10-20 frames in some games, but most games the FX 8370 is not far behind either of them. Thought you folks could use some real world experience on the subject of FX chips and GTX 1070. Let me know if you want to know anything more.

Couldn't agree more, people are bashing and talking but not using.
Thank you for your feedback

 

[moosedoctor]

I've had an EVGA 1070SC and an FX8350 for almost six months. OC'd and stress tested a LOT of different combinations. Turns out the AMD @ 4.7GHz is absolute CRAP compared to an i7 @ 4.0GHz. My 3DMark GPU scores compared to other 1070SC and FTW owners is better, but CPU (physics) scores are almost half of a decent i5 or i7. I finally came to this realization yesterday. I have a major case of i7 envy now, great.

Still, it runs Witcher 3 @ 70-120FPS at 1920x1080 but it's like driving a stage 3 GTI with stock fuel pump.