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Problem:
I recently upgraded my CPU from a 2.6 to a 3.4 Prescott, and added a
SATA HD (WD Raptor). After installing the CPU I checked my system
configuration in XP and noticed that the CPU was only recognized as 2.8
GHz. I figured this to be BIOS related and proceeded to upgrade my
BIOS. I was originally using BIOS version FE. I upgraded to newer
versions FG, FH, FI, FJ and FKa. In every version the first boot screen
(with the Gigabyte logo and memory check) hangs for well over a minute
- almost two. If I disable the onscreen branding for the Gigabyte logo
and Intel logo I can see that it hangs before the memory check. It just
sits there for an eternity. The good news is after the long boot
everything loads normally and the system runs fine. However I can’t
deal with a 2 minute load time. It’s killing me. When I revert back
to BIOS version FE – the load time is great and it works fine (minus
my CPU not being recognized)

System Config:
Mobo: Gigabyte GA8KNXP (rev 2.)
CPU: Intel Prescott 3.4
VGA: Asus V9560 /TD
OS: Win XP SP2
Memory: Kingston KHX3200K2/1G DDR 2x512 Speed : 2-2-2-6-1
Power Supply : Antec 500 W
HD 1: SATA WD Raptor 74GB (primary OS)
HD 2: IDE WD 200GB (storage)

General Useless info:
I spent countless hours trying to find the culprit. I contacted
customer support at Giga-byte, read every Google Groups post for 8KNXP
imaginable and found nothing. I wasted days of my life that I’ll
never get back �

Cause:
I finally found the problem. I decided to disable every item in my BIOS
and slowly one by one enabled each item and restart the system. In
doing this I was able to determine that it was my USB CONTROLLER that
was causing the long boot time. When I disabled that the boot time
worked great. It was the last thing I would have suspected. I tried
disconnecting my components and reconnecting them – but that didn’t
work. If I install a PS2 mouse and keyboard – and disable the USB
controller in the bios it boots right up. However I can’t live
without USB all my components are USB.

Please Help!
Has anyone experienced this? – if so is there any way to fix the
problem. I realize I could splurge on a PCI card but I’d rather not
if there is a solution out there.
 
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I would suggest you load the latest Intel 875P Chipset Driver (7.2.1.1003)
this compares with the 6.2.1.1001 version on the Gigabyte website. This INF
file provides a USB instruction set. Checkout the information on the Intel
website. Good Luck

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Problem:
I recently upgraded my CPU from a 2.6 to a 3.4 Prescott, and added a
SATA HD (WD Raptor). After installing the CPU I checked my system
configuration in XP and noticed that the CPU was only recognized as 2.8
GHz. I figured this to be BIOS related and proceeded to upgrade my
BIOS. I was originally using BIOS version FE. I upgraded to newer
versions FG, FH, FI, FJ and FKa. In every version the first boot screen
(with the Gigabyte logo and memory check) hangs for well over a minute
- almost two. If I disable the onscreen branding for the Gigabyte logo
and Intel logo I can see that it hangs before the memory check. It just
sits there for an eternity. The good news is after the long boot
everything loads normally and the system runs fine. However I can't
deal with a 2 minute load time. It's killing me. When I revert back
to BIOS version FE - the load time is great and it works fine (minus
my CPU not being recognized)

System Config:
Mobo: Gigabyte GA8KNXP (rev 2.)
CPU: Intel Prescott 3.4
VGA: Asus V9560 /TD
OS: Win XP SP2
Memory: Kingston KHX3200K2/1G DDR 2x512 Speed : 2-2-2-6-1
Power Supply : Antec 500 W
HD 1: SATA WD Raptor 74GB (primary OS)
HD 2: IDE WD 200GB (storage)

General Useless info:
I spent countless hours trying to find the culprit. I contacted
customer support at Giga-byte, read every Google Groups post for 8KNXP
imaginable and found nothing. I wasted days of my life that I'll
never get back ?

Cause:
I finally found the problem. I decided to disable every item in my BIOS
and slowly one by one enabled each item and restart the system. In
doing this I was able to determine that it was my USB CONTROLLER that
was causing the long boot time. When I disabled that the boot time
worked great. It was the last thing I would have suspected. I tried
disconnecting my components and reconnecting them - but that didn't
work. If I install a PS2 mouse and keyboard - and disable the USB
controller in the bios it boots right up. However I can't live
without USB all my components are USB.

Please Help!
Has anyone experienced this? - if so is there any way to fix the
problem. I realize I could splurge on a PCI card but I'd rather not
if there is a solution out there.
 

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Jeff,

I tried installing the Intel 875P Chipset Driver from the intel
website. I used the auto installer and it didn't seem to work. I also
tried downloading the version from the Giga-byte website. That didn't
work either. Is there a manual instal process that I should be doing? I
do see i875P AGP on the bios screen where it hangs.

Thanks again for you help.
 

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Jeff,

I guess I wasn't clear with my last message. I do apologize. I was able
to install the Intel 875P Chipset Driver (7.2.1.1003). The
INFINST_AUTOL.EXE did seem to detect my motherboard's chipset and it
did install while I was in Windows, when it was finished it also did
ask me to reboot. After I rebooted it didn't fix the problem - thats
what I meant earlier by it didn't work. After that I also tried
installing the verssion from the Gigabyte website - which also
installed OK, but that didn't seem to fix the problem either. One thing
I did not do was go into my hardware device manager and check on the
date of the drivers. I will double check that tonight.

I understand what you are saying about updating device drivers and how
that can have an effect at load time - however the problem that I am
having occurs well before XP is even initiated in the BIOS. It does
make sense that it has something to do with the i875 chipset drivers as
that chip controls the USB function. What is troblesome to me is - it
works fine in BIOS version FE - but not others. I know perhaps I'm
repeating myself - I'm still "thinking out loud." I'm completely
stumped on this one. Let me try to explain in more detail what is
happening and perhaps try to answer some questions for you. BTW I
appreciate all your help. Gigabyte has been asking me stupid frikin'
questions - you seem to have a much better grasp of whats going on. Ok
here it goes:

My sytem was stable running fine - but of course I had to upgrade a few
things - new CPU, new SATA Raptor. My system is water cooled so the
Prescott was appealing to me (price and all). I installed the CPU first
without any problems. I then restarted my system with no changes to any
settings (running BIOS FE). The CPU was in fact recognized in the BIOS
as 3.4Ghz as I could see on the initial BIOS screen - however when I
went into my system properties in XP - it read something like 3.4ghz
CPU running at 2.8Ghz. I thought this was strange and my first reaction
was - BIOS! So, I proceded to update to a newer version. Scared by FKa
Beta I installed version FJ. After using the Q-Flash utility I instaled
the new version without a hitch. I loaded fail safe defaults and
proceded to reboot my sytem.
PROBLEM STARTS HERE: Upon pressing the power button on my machine the
very first BIOS screen hangs - for two minutes +. :( It does absolutely
nothing. At the top the screen it says something like i875 AGPchipset
running BIOS version FJ (not quoting - but its close) at the bottom it
says Press del to enter bios - bla bla bla. So there it sits for two
minutes + (IT'S PAINFULL!!!). Especially when your loading a new system
and repeatidly restarting. Anyway after an eternity it goes into
"memory check" which takes a few seconds - then it detects my drives
which load quick - then it loads right into XP. In any regards the
update to FJ (and others newer then FE) did fix my system settings in
XP and it does say running at 3.4Ghz.

Moving on - Initially I figured this problem was something with BIOS
version FJ - so I proceded to upgrade to every other version upward
from FE. The same thing happed with every single version - including
FKa. By now - I've spent countless hours on this. Getting frustrated
with the wait I decided to Disable every single item in my bios to see
if that would even fix the problem - it did. So then I went back in and
repeatidly enabled every item i was using for my system - one by one,
and then rebooting. Finally I came to the USB controller - and BAM -
LONG BOOT. SOB!!! WTF!!! I was shocked to find this the problem. Any
who - I disabled it - went on to enable all my other componets and then
restarted. It worked like a charm. I installed my PS 2 keyboard and
mouse and have been using them ever since.

Now that I had determined the problem and disabled the USB controller
my boot times were great. I was so tired of wasting time on this I just
wanted to install my new SATA Raptor and move on. So I took out my old
IDE - installed XP on the SATA - went through the whole "SATA F6"
extravaganza and was on my way. Wow what a diference a 3.4 cpu and a WD
Raptor make - I was so happy with the performance. I installed all my
other stuff. And now I'm back to this. I need my USB devices!!! - I
know the hardware works - Your right it appears to be related to the
i875 chipset as this controls USB. but how to fix?

My last resort is purchasing a PCI USB conroller - but I can't bring
myself to do it. I KNOW THIS CAN BE FIXED - I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW.
Troubleshooting and fixing problems are my nature - I'm a developer by
trade, so its part of what I do everyday - but this is killing me and I
need help desparetly. I've become obsessed with this problem and I wont
rest until its fixed. I'm afraid if I dont fix it soon my wife is going
to kill me! Thanks again for all your help.

Dave
 
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Dave,
If you can't install the latest Intel INF file on top of your OS
installation you have even more problems than you think. The
INFINST_AUTOL.EXE file should detect your motherboard's chipset and apply
the driver updates automatically (while in Windows) and only ask for a
reboot after the installation process.
Are you watching the date of the drivers installed for your devices in the
Device Manager? What is the date of the USB Controllers drivers?
Speaking of the Display Adapter. Have you recently updated your Display
Adapter driver? ASUS posts updated drivers for your video card frequently.
I keep bringing you back to checking the various device drivers because that
is where boot-hangs are most often caused. Another area of suspect are
programs that are being loaded at boot-up. Have you tried disabling many of
your startup programs? List some of your programs that are being loaded at
startup.
I might add, the Gigabyte FD BIOS should have properly detected that 3.4
Prescott CPU. Since you started your CPU upgrade with the FE BIOS it should
have worked? Are you using default BIOS (no advanced) settings?

Good Luck
Jeff

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> Jeff,
>
> I tried installing the Intel 875P Chipset Driver from the intel
> website. I used the auto installer and it didn't seem to work. I also
> tried downloading the version from the Giga-byte website. That didn't
> work either. Is there a manual instal process that I should be doing? I
> do see i875P AGP on the bios screen where it hangs.
>
> Thanks again for you help.
>
 
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Dave,
Thanks for clarifying your problem. You are right, it is a BIOS problem. I'm
keying on your remark about loading defaults after installing the new BIOS.
There are many RAID settings that are enabled when defaults are loaded. I
assume you have your WD Raptor installed on SATA port0. Can I make the
following suggestions (all other settings set to default):

In the BIOS, on the Intergrated Peripherals page.
On-Chip SATA AUTO
SATA RAID Function Disabled
USB Keyborad Support Enabled
USB Mouse Support Enabled
Serial ATA Function Base
Onboard H/W GIGARAID Disabled
GigaRAID Function ATA

On the Frequency/Voltage Control page
CPU Host Clock Control Enabled

I have the 8KNXP Ultra 64 board and 3.0 Prescott. I enable the CPU Host
Clock Control option. Look at the top of page 58 in your users manual, read
the note about the CPU Host Clock Control BIOS option. This sounds like what
is happening to your setup. I'm guessing the 3.4 Prescott is is clock ratio
locked and that the CPU Clock Ratio is displaying 'Locked'.

Let me know
Jeff

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> Jeff,
>
> I guess I wasn't clear with my last message. I do apologize. I was able
> to install the Intel 875P Chipset Driver (7.2.1.1003). The
> INFINST_AUTOL.EXE did seem to detect my motherboard's chipset and it
> did install while I was in Windows, when it was finished it also did
> ask me to reboot. After I rebooted it didn't fix the problem - thats
> what I meant earlier by it didn't work. After that I also tried
> installing the verssion from the Gigabyte website - which also
> installed OK, but that didn't seem to fix the problem either. One thing
> I did not do was go into my hardware device manager and check on the
> date of the drivers. I will double check that tonight.
>
> I understand what you are saying about updating device drivers and how
> that can have an effect at load time - however the problem that I am
> having occurs well before XP is even initiated in the BIOS. It does
> make sense that it has something to do with the i875 chipset drivers as
> that chip controls the USB function. What is troblesome to me is - it
> works fine in BIOS version FE - but not others. I know perhaps I'm
> repeating myself - I'm still "thinking out loud." I'm completely
> stumped on this one. Let me try to explain in more detail what is
> happening and perhaps try to answer some questions for you. BTW I
> appreciate all your help. Gigabyte has been asking me stupid frikin'
> questions - you seem to have a much better grasp of whats going on. Ok
> here it goes:
>
> My sytem was stable running fine - but of course I had to upgrade a few
> things - new CPU, new SATA Raptor. My system is water cooled so the
> Prescott was appealing to me (price and all). I installed the CPU first
> without any problems. I then restarted my system with no changes to any
> settings (running BIOS FE). The CPU was in fact recognized in the BIOS
> as 3.4Ghz as I could see on the initial BIOS screen - however when I
> went into my system properties in XP - it read something like 3.4ghz
> CPU running at 2.8Ghz. I thought this was strange and my first reaction
> was - BIOS! So, I proceded to update to a newer version. Scared by FKa
> Beta I installed version FJ. After using the Q-Flash utility I instaled
> the new version without a hitch. I loaded fail safe defaults and
> proceded to reboot my sytem.
> PROBLEM STARTS HERE: Upon pressing the power button on my machine the
> very first BIOS screen hangs - for two minutes +. :( It does absolutely
> nothing. At the top the screen it says something like i875 AGPchipset
> running BIOS version FJ (not quoting - but its close) at the bottom it
> says Press del to enter bios - bla bla bla. So there it sits for two
> minutes + (IT'S PAINFULL!!!). Especially when your loading a new system
> and repeatidly restarting. Anyway after an eternity it goes into
> "memory check" which takes a few seconds - then it detects my drives
> which load quick - then it loads right into XP. In any regards the
> update to FJ (and others newer then FE) did fix my system settings in
> XP and it does say running at 3.4Ghz.
>
> Moving on - Initially I figured this problem was something with BIOS
> version FJ - so I proceded to upgrade to every other version upward
> from FE. The same thing happed with every single version - including
> FKa. By now - I've spent countless hours on this. Getting frustrated
> with the wait I decided to Disable every single item in my bios to see
> if that would even fix the problem - it did. So then I went back in and
> repeatidly enabled every item i was using for my system - one by one,
> and then rebooting. Finally I came to the USB controller - and BAM -
> LONG BOOT. SOB!!! WTF!!! I was shocked to find this the problem. Any
> who - I disabled it - went on to enable all my other componets and then
> restarted. It worked like a charm. I installed my PS 2 keyboard and
> mouse and have been using them ever since.
>
> Now that I had determined the problem and disabled the USB controller
> my boot times were great. I was so tired of wasting time on this I just
> wanted to install my new SATA Raptor and move on. So I took out my old
> IDE - installed XP on the SATA - went through the whole "SATA F6"
> extravaganza and was on my way. Wow what a diference a 3.4 cpu and a WD
> Raptor make - I was so happy with the performance. I installed all my
> other stuff. And now I'm back to this. I need my USB devices!!! - I
> know the hardware works - Your right it appears to be related to the
> i875 chipset as this controls USB. but how to fix?
>
> My last resort is purchasing a PCI USB conroller - but I can't bring
> myself to do it. I KNOW THIS CAN BE FIXED - I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW.
> Troubleshooting and fixing problems are my nature - I'm a developer by
> trade, so its part of what I do everyday - but this is killing me and I
> need help desparetly. I've become obsessed with this problem and I wont
> rest until its fixed. I'm afraid if I dont fix it soon my wife is going
> to kill me! Thanks again for all your help.
>
> Dave
>
 

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I'm sad to say that didn't work either. I did read what you were saying
about the Clock Bios Control option, and it did seem to fit the
description of what was happening. Though mine hangs for much more then
20 seconds - I think I could deal with a 20 seconds lag. In any regards
I tried the settings you suggested - but it didn't seem to help. :( The
long boot time was still the same. I'm going to put this down for the
weekend and pick it back up on Monday. If there's anything else you can
think of let me know. Thanks again for all your help - I'm still
optomistic.

Dave
 
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Dave,
Quoting you: "PROBLEM STARTS HERE: Upon pressing the power button on my
machine the
very first BIOS screen hangs - for two minutes +. :( It does absolutely
nothing. At the top the screen it says something like i875 AGPchipset
running BIOS version FJ (not quoting - but its close) at the bottom it
says Press del to enter bios - bla bla bla. So there it sits for two
minutes + (IT'S PAINFULL!!!). "

With the BIOS load screen displaying only its' version line; the first thing
the BIOS is doing is identifying your CPU and completing a system health
check. That seems to be what your BIOS is hanging-on.

I know if I power-down in the middle of a boot-up, my next BIOS boot-up
screen
will display information about my CPU. If after a successful boot-up, the
next BIOS boot-up screen will not display the CPU information and until the
boot-up process is interupted again will never display the CPU information.

Your BIOS is being interupted while making its' system health check. The
first part of that check is connection with the CPU. Have you thought about
the possibility that the 3.4 Prescott is bad? Can you get an exchange on the
CPU?

I know it's a pain but have you tried reinstalling your old CPU?

Let me know..

Jeff

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> I'm sad to say that didn't work either. I did read what you were saying
> about the Clock Bios Control option, and it did seem to fit the
> description of what was happening. Though mine hangs for much more then
> 20 seconds - I think I could deal with a 20 seconds lag. In any regards
> I tried the settings you suggested - but it didn't seem to help. :( The
> long boot time was still the same. I'm going to put this down for the
> weekend and pick it back up on Monday. If there's anything else you can
> think of let me know. Thanks again for all your help - I'm still
> optomistic.
>
> Dave
>
 

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Jeff,

I've been away all weekend so I haven't been able to "play". In any
regards - I haven't really focused on the CPU as the issue. The reason
being: If I disable the USB controller and use a PS 2 keyboard and
mouse my system runs great. The boot time is super fast and XP loads in
a jiff. Not to mention it's been super stable. (I've played some games
to test and left it on for a few days without any problems). The other
odd thing is if I enable the USB Controller and wiat through the long
boot - after that everything is fast and stable as well. Also - if I
use BIOS version FE, the USB contoller doesn't seem to be an issue. I
guess to me it doesn't seem like it's a faulty CPU. Is this something
that could be caused by a faulty CPU? If so then I think I better get
on the ball - I baught it from ewiz and I think there warranty period
is only 30 days - I'll have to check. I know there return policy is
only 7 days - which is BS b/c it took 8 days to ship. Had I had it to
do over I definetly would have spent the extra 5 bucks at newegg.
Heinsight :( ah well.

Also I just got a reply from gigabyte - I sent them a copy of this post
basically - minus some edits. They said if I have tried everthing and
have determined it's the USB controller to send it back for RMA. I'm
just not so sure though - and I can't go without my MOBO - god knows
how long they'll have it.

I think at this point I'll take your advice and reinstall the old CPU
and see what happens. I'll let you know what the outcome is.

Thanks,
Dave
 

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Ok! - So I you said something about rebooting during start up and then
looking for an error message. So I did this, and found something very -
very interesting which I "think" might be "IT". OK so - I pressed the
reset button during the long wait to see what would happen. When my
machine rebooted it flew past the initial (hang) screen and loaded
right into my "old" OS. (I never deleted my old XP partition on my IDE
drive) Somehow the false restart triggered my bios to load into the IDE
hard drive. This gave me a huge clue and I got to thinking. Why would
it boot right into my old IDE drive and not hang on the boot screen? It
has to be "some" configuration/driver. Here's my theory - I never
mentioned this befor b/c I thought it was irrevelant, however I think
it may play a huge part in my problem. I think it has to do with the
"F6" intel chipset driver.

When I installed my SATA HD - I tried downloading the ICH5R driver from
the Gigabyte website however I could not get it to work properly (after
trying numerous times to download it). So as a last resort I followed
the instructions from the ICH5R install document on the Gigabyte
website
(http://america.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/FileList/Manual/manual_sata_raid_os_ich5r_e.pdf).
In this document it had me get the "old" driver from the original
install disc. I made a floppy from that and was on my way. I think now
I have reason to believe that this "old" driver was not sufficient.
Whadya think? My next question is - can I get the new driver from the
Intel website - is it compatabile? and can I reinstall the new "F6"
ICH5R driver without reinstalling XP? I SURE HOPE SO. I've spent hours
reconfiguring my PC - however I guess shame on me for not getting the
bugs out first. So my question to you is - do you think this is it? and
can I fix it without reinstalling everything else. Thanks for all you
help! - Dave
 

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I've been digging around and have found some important information. It
seems you were right from the get go - to install the Intel Chipset
Drivers. However, I installed them using the Auto.exe method. Aparently
this does not work if you have already installed other drivers on your
OS. There is another manual method that you must follow to install from
the zip version. I overlooked this originally thinking the auto method
would acomplish the same thing - Aparently not. :-( From reading this
post
(http://www.techsupportforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7599&highlight)
and others, they seem to fit my problem almost to a T. It has to be it!
My next step is to follow the manual instal method and see what
happens. I have my fingers crossed - I think this is it. I'll let you
know.
 
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Dave,
The IAA_Raid.exe driver from your motherboard CD is the driver that should
be used to install your OS on a SATA drive on the ICH5R Intel Chipset. It
sounds as if you have properly installed this driver while prompting an F6
during installation of the OS.

Once the OS is installed, insert the motherboard CD and using the Gigabyte
'Xpress Install" application, install all the motherboard drivers (there is
even an 'USB Patch for WinXP'). Gigabyte recommends you install all
components on the list. Just select the drivers you want and click the 'GO
Button'. 'Xpress Install' will execute the installation for you by itself.

Once the motherboard CD has been used to load the chipset drivers then it's
time to configure the system to log onto the Internet and download all the
OS updates. Remember there is a USB-2 update that you will most likely need.

Please try the following settings in the BIOS.

Under the "integrated Peripheral" -
1) Make sure the "On-Chip SATA" is set to "Manual".
2) Set the "SATA Port0" to SATA port0.
3) Set the "SATA Port1" to SATA port1.
4) Set "SATA RAID function" to disable.

Under the "advanced BIOS feature" -
Place the "SCSI-SATA HDD " to the first one in "HDD boot priority".

Using the EXE Intel Chipset Utility will normally update drivers that
require updating. The manual method using the ZIP version allows you update
the drivers as you wish. The manual method is usually not required and would
not advise. You could use this method to update just your USB controller
drivers (worth a shot?).

Let me know if this works.

Jeff


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> I've been digging around and have found some important information. It
> seems you were right from the get go - to install the Intel Chipset
> Drivers. However, I installed them using the Auto.exe method. Aparently
> this does not work if you have already installed other drivers on your
> OS. There is another manual method that you must follow to install from
> the zip version. I overlooked this originally thinking the auto method
> would acomplish the same thing - Aparently not. :-( From reading this
> post
> (http://www.techsupportforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7599&highlight)
> and others, they seem to fit my problem almost to a T. It has to be it!
> My next step is to follow the manual instal method and see what
> happens. I have my fingers crossed - I think this is it. I'll let you
> know.
>
 

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Jeff,
That didn't work :'-( I really thought it was going to - I thought we
had it.
I tried everything:
- installed all drivers from install disk (express install) - no luck
- reconfigured my bios settings as you suggested - no luck
- updated my intel drivers manually - no luck

Next steps
- Disconnect SATA entirely - disable in BIOS - boot to originial IDE
drive - see if still hangs. If this works (no hang) - then i'll
continue to reinstall my SATA drive from scratch and follow all the
"rules", if it still hangs - well I just don't know.

Everything is stable after the boot - I ran my Hot CPU Tester Pro -
everything came up great - I've played games and got awsome performance
(more stable then prior to the install - no crashes). The system seems
flawless, except for this one thing.

Is there any way to disable the Healtscan so it will just bypass the
test?

Thanks for all your help - I really do appreciate it - This one is
starting to ware me out - I've spent sooooooooooooooo much time on it.
 

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I GOT IT!!!
ok - shame on me for not trying this sooner, but anyway I found the
problem. I had my USB 6 in 1 Internal Card Reader hooked up to my
internal USB 2.0 connector. I disconect this and Bam - works great.
Start up is QUICK. I just don't get it, the device worked fine once it
was up and running. Anyway it's not the board connection b/c i placed
my External USB adapter to each connection and it worked fine. Weird.
So anyway I'm gonna try a new card ready and hope it works. I thought
about trying that soon - I wish I had. Ah well at least its fixed. I
just want to thank you again for all your help - I learned alot in the
process even though the things didn't work.
 
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"dave" <email@davefink.com> wrote in message
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>I GOT IT!!!
> ok - shame on me for not trying this sooner, but anyway I found the
> problem. I had my USB 6 in 1 Internal Card Reader hooked up to my
> internal USB 2.0 connector. I disconect this and Bam - works great.
> Start up is QUICK. I just don't get it, the device worked fine once it
> was up and running. Anyway it's not the board connection b/c i placed
> my External USB adapter to each connection and it worked fine. Weird.
> So anyway I'm gonna try a new card ready and hope it works. I thought
> about trying that soon - I wish I had. Ah well at least its fixed. I
> just want to thank you again for all your help - I learned alot in the
> process even though the things didn't work.
Remember if you have USB emulation for disk drives enabled in the BIOS,
every adapter of this sort, has the potential to contain a 'boot' device.
If you don't need to boot from USB, disable this emulation, and you may
find the performance improves.

Best Wishes
 

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I was looiking on the web for info on the Kingston Memory
KHX3200K2/1G, because I have this kit. I noticed that you have the
same motherboard as me and I basically had the same issues. I did
solve the problem but since then I could not find any more of these
kits so I switched memory and now they are just sitting on my desk
ready to get ebay'ed. But this is what I found out as I was working
out this problem. I tried everything you have, I did have to go into
the advanced settings in the BIOS and make sure the setting were set
perfectly for the ram(no overclocking). But I still had the problem,
and as you have figured out it was the USB causing the errors. Well
since the USB has little to do with what was going on I was clueless.
So I decided to contact Microsoft and used the email support system. I
got a responds back within 24hrs and the tech asked me to do a memory
dump and email it, so I did. A few days later the tech emailed me
back and told me to try this solution. Which to tell you sounded odd.
But I tried it anyway, and poof no more problems.

All the tech said was it was probable a USB issue so here is the fix.

Go into device manager/hardware and go to the USB section. Then
UN-install
all USB items listed. then Reboot.
Doing this will allow windows to find and reinstall the USB devices in
the proper order in which windows finds them.
It seems that adding the usb devices one at a time while setting up
the system did not take into account how windows finds them in the
boot process. So allowing the windows OS to do it the way it wants to
seems to solve the problem, Go Figure!

Well I hope this helps, and just a quick comment, the memory is great
but I don't think overclocking is really worth the gain and with the
memory and motherboard you have it's a great system anyways so
overclocking really doesn't help.

I think at this point the problem is a 1-2-3 issue, Motherboard,
memory, USB. After I switched memory I never did have this issue
again. So yes it is a motherboard issue but it is how it handles the
memory, which inturn is how the memory handles the USB. 1-2-3