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[citation][nom]captjack5169[/nom]HAHAHAHAHA you must be on a different Steam than the rest of us. New release are the same price or cheaper than the retailer. Everything else depends on where you are looking and what you are looking for. Steam is usually cheaper than other locations when it comes to older games, or maybe I'm on a different steam than you are.[/citation]
No he's right, Steam's prices are great during sales but the rest of the time they're usually slightly more expensive than buying a physical copy of a game from Amazon or Play or something - especially games over six months old, which Steam usually still has priced at the RRP after the other retailers have cut the price by a third or more. Maybe you're not looking around at the prices from other vendors or they're not available wherever you're from?
No he's right, Steam's prices are great during sales but the rest of the time they're usually slightly more expensive than buying a physical copy of a game from Amazon or Play or something - especially games over six months old, which Steam usually still has priced at the RRP after the other retailers have cut the price by a third or more. Maybe you're not looking around at the prices from other vendors or they're not available wherever you're from?
eddieroolz
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If they refuse to carry any products with Steam, they're just making it easier for Valve to get more people to sign up for Steam. Simple as that.
I personally don't use it but my brother does. He likes it.
I personally don't use it but my brother does. He likes it.
threaten that they will not carry any product that carry any Steam integration
- funniest thing i heard today.
Hey EB get with the times or loose out. Just look at blockbuster in the USA, bankrupted this month. They didnt change their business model and didnt adapt to the new digital world. Seriously who rents dvd's these days?
- funniest thing i heard today.
Hey EB get with the times or loose out. Just look at blockbuster in the USA, bankrupted this month. They didnt change their business model and didnt adapt to the new digital world. Seriously who rents dvd's these days?
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Game stores should stop bending their pc customers over if they want to compete. I hate steam, but I hate game stores more. They never have fair prices, merchandise, or any materials that concern pc gamers. I'd rather get on steam, download the crap and have it down. Maybe if consoles weren't such a dominating force in game stores, more pc gamers would give a hoot.
since i hardly see any pc game in game shop anymore. i think what game shop mean is if you put product into steam they wouldn't sale the console counter part.
for me, i only buy pc game on steam when its on sale.
1. it save me some $$$
2. i dont really care resale, matter of fact i dont recall i resale any of my pc game.
3. one point or another i will lost the cd or cd got dmg anyway. so its better for me the game is always downloadable.
4. as for ppl who say play game require steam internet connection.. its not ture, i play steam game where internet was down few time already. ( couldn't say the same with starcraft2 battlenet POS )
in "good old day" i would buy pc game over steam anytime. thats when the time publisher give out good game manual (remember old civ1 and civ2 manual?? or the cloth map of ultima3 to 7??)
now a day publisher just try to put some cheap arse pdf into install CD or sometime just simply give you a web link. this give me one less reason to buy retail.
with all those $$$ they sink into game.. publisher can't put out a half arse good package.. IMHO is a great shame and biggest downfall of PC retail.
for me, i only buy pc game on steam when its on sale.
1. it save me some $$$
2. i dont really care resale, matter of fact i dont recall i resale any of my pc game.
3. one point or another i will lost the cd or cd got dmg anyway. so its better for me the game is always downloadable.
4. as for ppl who say play game require steam internet connection.. its not ture, i play steam game where internet was down few time already. ( couldn't say the same with starcraft2 battlenet POS )
in "good old day" i would buy pc game over steam anytime. thats when the time publisher give out good game manual (remember old civ1 and civ2 manual?? or the cloth map of ultima3 to 7??)
now a day publisher just try to put some cheap arse pdf into install CD or sometime just simply give you a web link. this give me one less reason to buy retail.
with all those $$$ they sink into game.. publisher can't put out a half arse good package.. IMHO is a great shame and biggest downfall of PC retail.
i use steam because games here are either marked up but 50% or not sold at all or available late.
steam always me to buy the game at suggested price or much lower when deals are goin on.
steam always me to buy the game at suggested price or much lower when deals are goin on.
Many of the Gamestop stores in my area don't even carry PC games...you have to specifically find which stores carry any PC stock. Like others have said, I actually prefer Steam's version of copy protection--I generally can install a game on as many computers as I want as long as I'm only logged in and playing that game on ONE computer at a time. That seems fair and honest to me.
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IDK, I'm like some other's I'm kinda mixed bag on steam too. It's a great Idea, and it's obviously brought about a few cloned business models. Makes it easy to get games, and you don't have to leave home to get em. You can associate none steam games with steam, and have all your games launchable from one place. They have good sales on older games most of the time that you can't find elsewhere. And of course automatic updating. No physical discs to worry about getting scratched up out of nowhere(this happened with Civ4 disks that weren't in use, and in their case).
Some cons on the other hand though. If your internet connection goes down, I've noticed a few games I have won't start up, even in offline mode. Nothin like bein bored out of your mind, and having games you can't play because you can't get online. Granted some games DRM Model is about the same way. No physical game manual or disks to reinstall from in case of system failure or drive crash. And with that in mind, you need a pretty decent speed connection with no data cap to download most newer games due to shear size. My old 30-40mb cable connection was fine, but since my move this big old 5mb radio wireless doesn't cut it as well.
On a side note, you can indeed back up games you've downloaded off steam to disk or hard drive. It just takes up a fair amount of space to do so. One of those you almost want to have a dedicated back up drive in the 500gb range for that purpose.
Some cons on the other hand though. If your internet connection goes down, I've noticed a few games I have won't start up, even in offline mode. Nothin like bein bored out of your mind, and having games you can't play because you can't get online. Granted some games DRM Model is about the same way. No physical game manual or disks to reinstall from in case of system failure or drive crash. And with that in mind, you need a pretty decent speed connection with no data cap to download most newer games due to shear size. My old 30-40mb cable connection was fine, but since my move this big old 5mb radio wireless doesn't cut it as well.
On a side note, you can indeed back up games you've downloaded off steam to disk or hard drive. It just takes up a fair amount of space to do so. One of those you almost want to have a dedicated back up drive in the 500gb range for that purpose.
Other than buying a physical copies, i only bought games from three resources. Here they are, in the order of how much games i bought from each:
1. GOG
2. Steam
3. Gamersgate
and the last time i bought a physical copy was last year.
so maybe this is the time when retail stores re-think their business model and come up with a better way to sell games, instead of just boycotting steam. be creative, or be left behind! duh!
1. GOG
2. Steam
3. Gamersgate
and the last time i bought a physical copy was last year.
so maybe this is the time when retail stores re-think their business model and come up with a better way to sell games, instead of just boycotting steam. be creative, or be left behind! duh!
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[citation][nom]Master Exon[/nom]I am certain that it's the many small hard drives that make the issue complicated. BTW 640GB drive is available on newegg for maybe $55 at the moment. Also, Valve is experimenting with "Cloud" technology for online gamesaves.[/citation]
A could would fix it, but for the time being it still is a problem for some.
A 640gb drive would be inadequate btw. My game cache in steam takes up over 200GB - and now imagine I was using an expensive ssd instead of a bunch of cheap 2tb drives ? I couldn't even fit the steam games on it to benefit from it.
Anyway, it's just one of many inconveniences really.
A could would fix it, but for the time being it still is a problem for some.
A 640gb drive would be inadequate btw. My game cache in steam takes up over 200GB - and now imagine I was using an expensive ssd instead of a bunch of cheap 2tb drives ? I couldn't even fit the steam games on it to benefit from it.
Anyway, it's just one of many inconveniences really.
[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]i love steam in concept, but i HATE it in practice.in concept it makes games cheaper and gives more money to publishers. i go to a store, i get box art, i get a physical disc, instructions and anything else that comes with the game, for 40-60$ (cod is the only 60 pc game i can think of) but if i go to steam, im paying the same damn price as retail, when there is nothing making that price higher.i NEVER buy a game on steam unless its on sale. if i really want it i will pirate it until i find it on sale, buy it than, and transfer my saves if possible. dont get me wrong im all for giveing the devs their fair share of what they make, but it seams like they took out all the crap that realy drove game prices up and got rid of it, only to charge the same damn price.i get that part of that is to appease the walmarts of the world, but F them, seriously, never do things half way.[/citation]
Amen brutha
I agree with you 100%.. why are software only prices getting back up to the physical boxed versions?!? non of the packaging or printed material to drive up costs.So what's the deal?
Amen brutha
I agree with you 100%.. why are software only prices getting back up to the physical boxed versions?!? non of the packaging or printed material to drive up costs.So what's the deal?
[citation][nom]lukeiamyourfather[/nom]Steam is a mixed blessing. The convenience and prices are great. However if their servers ever go down then all of the customers are screwed. I mean that both in a temporary sense and in a indefinite sense. People might think Steam will last forever, but I'm sure people buying music from Walmart, Yahoo, and MSN thought the same.[/citation]
Difference being, Valve essentially created digital distribution of IP, that is Steam's only purpose, and for the most part, is the single name most folks think of when digital distribution of non-music IP is mentioned. Those others you mention were just clunky companies thinking they would be relevant in a market they didn't create and brought 0 innovation to simply based on name recognition alone.
Difference being, Valve essentially created digital distribution of IP, that is Steam's only purpose, and for the most part, is the single name most folks think of when digital distribution of non-music IP is mentioned. Those others you mention were just clunky companies thinking they would be relevant in a market they didn't create and brought 0 innovation to simply based on name recognition alone.
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I hate not getting what you pay for. You pay the same for a digital copy and a physical copy.....Maybe if the digital copy was $10 cheaper i could maybe justify the cost of a $59 game or if I could burn my own copies of the game.
Steam Pro's:
Digital Copy (Cant be damaged)
Friends (if you have no life off your pc)
Steam Con's:
Internet Required
Download Wait
No Box, Disk, Maps(Oblivion, Ultima, ect)
Special Editions are out of the question(Crysis 2 backpack, Bio Shock 2 Art & Book, ect)
No Burning of Purchased Content
No ISO of Content (For offline Backup and Installation)
No Offline solution
JMO
Steam Pro's:
Digital Copy (Cant be damaged)
Friends (if you have no life off your pc)
Steam Con's:
Internet Required
Download Wait
No Box, Disk, Maps(Oblivion, Ultima, ect)
Special Editions are out of the question(Crysis 2 backpack, Bio Shock 2 Art & Book, ect)
No Burning of Purchased Content
No ISO of Content (For offline Backup and Installation)
No Offline solution
JMO
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For friends, sounds like you're saying you can't have online friends and real ones, :lol:
Deals, Steam is known for deals. At the times, Digital copies do end up being cheaper, and at times easier to find then a physical copy if the games on Steam. Look at the deal with every Doom title/etc. Those games aren't easy to find through normal gaming stores, so Steam is a decent choice, and you can play many title's when offline. If you need a map there's this cool new thing called a search engine, where you can find a map layout of a game and it's levels. Special Editions: DLC/Preorders/Auto updates&patches where you get additonal features. Look at Fallout New Vegas, the caravan pack...which was an equal to Gamestops preorder sale. Also, Steam does help a number of Indie gamers, I got World of Goo from Steam and I ended up loving it.
All you have to do is visit their Store page once or twice a week and you can find new and interesting things.
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Steam took the issue of the DRM, solved it and offered extra value.
I love not having to hunt for an old title that I want to buy, and the occasional Steam specials are very good.
I don't have to insert any freaking DVD on the drive, this is very good for me.
If you go to a friends house, you can download your games and play on his/her computer, LEGALLY ! How cool is this?
It's also great for publishers, because it "feels" so easy to buy from Steam, and "impulse buyers" are a very welcome revenue stream for them.
I think that digital distribution model is mature by now, mostly thanks to Steam.
I don't mind not having a printed manual, because to be honest, most manuals that come with boxed games sucks anyways. The "old days" boxed games came with thick, full color manuals, but today? Nope!
Steam also AUTO-PATCH you games, this is also very cool, you don't need to hunt for updates.
Just my 2 cents, but I respect who thinks differently.
I love not having to hunt for an old title that I want to buy, and the occasional Steam specials are very good.
I don't have to insert any freaking DVD on the drive, this is very good for me.
If you go to a friends house, you can download your games and play on his/her computer, LEGALLY ! How cool is this?
It's also great for publishers, because it "feels" so easy to buy from Steam, and "impulse buyers" are a very welcome revenue stream for them.
I think that digital distribution model is mature by now, mostly thanks to Steam.
I don't mind not having a printed manual, because to be honest, most manuals that come with boxed games sucks anyways. The "old days" boxed games came with thick, full color manuals, but today? Nope!
Steam also AUTO-PATCH you games, this is also very cool, you don't need to hunt for updates.
Just my 2 cents, but I respect who thinks differently.
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This is interesting. I remember years and years ago, when steam came out and I was forced to start using it I was pretty against it. That has long gone out the window though. I love the service. I love having all my games in one place, transferable to any computer. Goooo steam.
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My local game store's pc section is quite big although I only find myself finding more modern titles and classic titles are hardly there.
And Steam offers classic and modern titles alike which is obviously great
Bonus points for the sales on games which is a great deal
Although I still buy boxed games but if game stores don't keep up with grip, its doom for them
Although when Limited/Special Edition kicks in, that's another story 😀
I sometimes wish Steam would give an option to charge extra to deliver the game box and manual to you 😛
And Steam offers classic and modern titles alike which is obviously great
Bonus points for the sales on games which is a great deal
Although I still buy boxed games but if game stores don't keep up with grip, its doom for them
Although when Limited/Special Edition kicks in, that's another story 😀
I sometimes wish Steam would give an option to charge extra to deliver the game box and manual to you 😛
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