Gaming Graphics Card Tier List

[lightcloud]

Yeah, it is still a High End card as far as I am concern. Like mentioned, it's performance lies between a GTX 980 and a GTX 780.

Therefore, an extra Class in Tier 2 may need to be created.

GTX 970 can take position in Tier 2 Class A. GTX 780 and Titan can go Tier 2 Class B and the remaing cards moves down a class in Tier 2.

Opinions?

 

[RobCrezz]

not talking about the dual GPU cards especialy, just those cards that come with another 2GB or VRAM etc. shouldnt be to many, just an idea 😉
(like the discusses r9 290x 8GB and the gtx 760 4 GB etc)

Whats the point though? It rarely makes any difference.

The 8Gb 290x at 4k is the only improvement i have seen. The 4gb versions of the 760/770/680 never performed any better in any benchmarks I saw.

 

[MeteorsRaining]

Maybe you can place it in between Tier 2 and 1, I know it's a wild idea but put something like 'Can max out most titles at comfortable FPS but some might be limited to decent FPS.' That's debatable though.

 

[tsuneo6]

not talking about the dual GPU cards especialy, just those cards that come with another 2GB or VRAM etc. shouldnt be to many, just an idea 😉
(like the discusses r9 290x 8GB and the gtx 760 4 GB etc)

Whats the point though? It rarely makes any difference.

The 8Gb 290x at 4k is the only improvement i have seen. The 4gb versions of the 760/770/680 never performed any better in any benchmarks I saw.

because this list is supposedly for people wanting to chose a card that dont know much about it? so it seemed like a good idea to put some customised cards on the list for people to see where it has an advantage

 

[AceAttorney]

But,isn't the creation of a whole new class just for one card a little unwarranted?

 

[tsuneo6]

you can also put it in the curently existing tier list. or just put it next to it, just mention that the cards exist and what tier they belong in. it seemed like a good idea to me. but only me apperantly 😛

 

[zeyuanfu]

Meh, you can put it at the rightmost of Tier 1 Class 3...

 

[RobCrezz]

not talking about the dual GPU cards especialy, just those cards that come with another 2GB or VRAM etc. shouldnt be to many, just an idea 😉
(like the discusses r9 290x 8GB and the gtx 760 4 GB etc)

Whats the point though? It rarely makes any difference.

The 8Gb 290x at 4k is the only improvement i have seen. The 4gb versions of the 760/770/680 never performed any better in any benchmarks I saw.

because this list is supposedly for people wanting to chose a card that dont know much about it? so it seemed like a good idea to put some customised cards on the list for people to see where it has an advantage

You're missing the point. in 99% of cases the higher vram versions don't perform any different.

 

[tsuneo6]

I know. but "they" dont know that do they, which was my point.
but it's okay. it was just an idea

 

[RobCrezz]

I know. but "they" dont know that do they, which was my point.
but it's okay. it was just an idea

Maybe just a side note saying higher memory versions rarely improve performance, unless in specific circumstances.

 

[tsuneo6]

I know. but "they" dont know that do they, which was my point.
but it's okay. it was just an idea

Maybe just a side note saying higher memory versions rarely improve performance, unless in specific circumstances.

something like that yes, it crossed my mind aswell. maybe in a sidenote how much performance gain sli and crossfire setups actually give. plenty it people think it doubles the power.

 

[LukaBoki]

Only Watch Dogs and Shadow of Mordor are the games I know of that benefit from extra VRAM.

 

[zeyuanfu]

BF4?
It suffers when any AMD card with Mantle enables has less than 3 GB of VRAM.

 

[blacksheep123]

this might help : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-8.html

 

[LukaBoki]

BF4?
It suffers when any AMD card with Mantle enables has less than 3 GB of VRAM.

Yea,but Watch Dogs and SoM will suffer if both nVidia and AMD have less than 4GB of VRAM.

 

[zeyuanfu]

I bet both games are improperly coded.

 

[LukaBoki]

Watch Dogs for PC definitely is.
They are still playable with 2GB or 3GB card,but they benefit from higher VRAM.

 

[zeyuanfu]

I would still consider putting the GTX 970 is Tier 1 Class 3, if not 3½.

 

[LukaBoki]

If Joe does that,then it'd be great if he moved the 980 to Tier 1 Class 2.

 

[zeyuanfu]

Or Tier 2 Class 2½

 

[zeyuanfu]

I thing that tiering a GPU needs to take into account of the value, too. Comparing a Titan Z and a GTX 970 doesn't seem too fair as one is a 3000$ card and the other is a 350$ one.

 

[lightcloud]

I might wait to rearrange the GTX 900 series when the R 9 300 series is released.

 

[LukaBoki]

That would work.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Ok while I certainly appreciate the effort here this tier list thing is out of control. You do know Tom's does a tier list right? Every month for years? In a very easily readable format?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

I don't see how you can recommend a 'power supply range' when you have cards as different as an HD 7990 and a GTX 980 in the same tier. If you are going to do power requirements do it by card. Something else that has been done very well here:

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

You also state that all PCI-E is backwards compatible. Yes,.....and no. You will run into cases when it's not. It can be complicated and this is the best explanation I have seen written up.

http://www.overclock.net/a/the-final-answer-to-the-controversial-pcie-x16-version-compatibility

You can't really do a 'this card will give you X number of FPS in game Y' type list unless you test every single card in an identical test system. That's why big test sites end up with lists like this over a period of years. Obviously someone with an Athlon X2 will not get anywhere near the same performance as someone with an overclocked i7.

I'm certainly not trying to give you a hard time here but I don't see how this is better than what's out there already.

 

[lightcloud]

Ok while I certainly appreciate the effort here this tier list thing is out of control. You do know Tom's does a tier list right? Every month for years? In a very easily readable format?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-

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graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

Yes I do know Tom's has already listed a hierarchy chart but not a "Tier", so I decided to create a tier list instead. The main reason was it will help the members on the forum to determine if the graphics card is a Tier 1 Class A, Tier 3 Class A, etc. Similar to how people would say for the PSU tier.

I don't see how you can recommend a 'power supply range' when you have cards as different as an HD 7990 and a GTX 980 in the same tier. If you are going to do power requirements do it by card. Something else that has been done very well here:

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archives/Page362.htm

I did not include a power supply range, originally, it was just highly recommended. But I will remove it quickly and just link the readers to he power supply wattage for graphics card website.

You also state that all PCI-E is backwards compatible. Yes,.....and no. You will run into cases when it's not. It can be complicated and this is the best explanation I have seen written up.

http://www.overclock.net/a/the-final-answer-to-the-controversial-pcie-x16-version-compatibility

Regarding this maybe I should change the way I expressed it. I should say:
If a PCI Express 3.0 x16 graphics card fits in a PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot, then the performance will be similar to a PCI Express 3.0 x16 graphics card in a PCI Express 3.0 slot.

You can't really do a 'this card will give you X number of FPS in game Y' type list unless you test every single card in an identical test system. That's why big test sites end up with lists like this over a period of years. Obviously someone with an Athlon X2 will not get anywhere near the same performance as someone with an overclocked i7.

This is certainly one of the biggest mistakes I have made. I will quicky add that the user's system will vary, due to factors such as bottlenecks, overclocked, etc.

I'm certainly not trying to give you a hard time here but I don't see how this is better than what's out there already.

No you are not giving me a hard time. I am here to learn (I am not a genius). If you belive this thread is out of control, you have the authority to remove/close it.


I will update this as soon as possible