GeForce GTX 295 In Quad-SLI

[sohei]

at this performances green or red it's enought ,so the battle remains at $$$ if nvidia wins too.... they are the best ! for now is 1-0 for green team

 

[Crashman]

[citation][nom]duzcizgi[/nom]Why test with AA and AF turned on with such high end cards? Anyone who pays +$400 * X wouldn't be playing any game with AA AF turned off or with low res. display. (If I'd pay $800 for graphics cards, I'd have of course had a display with no less than 1920x1200 resolution. Not even 1680x1050)And I'm a little disappointed with the scaling of all solutions. They still don't scale well.[/citation]

Uh, d00d, the HIGHER your resolution, the LESS you can see aliasing lines. It makes perfect sense to disable AA if it makes your game playable at such a high resolution that you can barely see the difference.

 

[Crashman]

[citation][nom]billiardicus[/nom]Nice write up. A few comments: Why include 1680x1050? Anyone who has 2 gtx 295's and plays at 1680x1050 should be beaten and then shot. IMO it just made the graphs busier and harder to read.[/citation]

It's a starting point where the cheapest solution in the comparison (single GTX 280) should always be playable.

 

[marraco]

In other reviews, I had seen the Asus p6t Deluxe performing better than this gigabyte mother, both in overclocking and in SLI scaling. You used only 2 PCI express in most tests (to be fair, the Asus would not had allowed to do 3x-SLI test)

Also, I would had testing with 6x 1 Gb Kingston hyperX ddr3 2000 CL9 1.65v. Why use ddr3 1600? higher memory clocks give little advantage, but in this benchmark, would have reduced system bottleneck.

maybe the 285 gives better bang for the buck in Quad setup. Is sad that it was not included.

 

[Shadow703793]

Looks like drivers still need work. (Just look at the 2560x1600 for Crysis). The 280 Tri SLI beat Tri SLI 295

 

[wdmso]

what about image Quality? DVD or HD play back? for the extra cash spent is it even any better than a single 4870 or a 9800 love the articles
But getting board with stats that the human eyes can't process more than 50 fps from what i read heres another site http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm ..also refresh rate of your monitor must affect something just thinking out loud

 

[Guest]

Is anyone else starting to think that crysis is just an underperforming poorly coded piece of crap?

 

[computerninja7823]

"Is anyone else starting to think that crysis is just an underperforming poorly coded piece of crap?"............hmmmmm no

 

[VTOLfreak]

None of these solutions provide good scaling. According to those numbers triple SLI and even quad SLI can at best do 2x better then a single card. I'm waiting for motherboards with Hydra to show up. If Hydra can do what it promises then triple and quad videocards will start making sense.

 

[loeric]

Assuming the Core i7 965 and the OC'd Core i7 920 perform at the comparable level, this article and the article GTX 295 performance preview give some interest observation:

(1) Catalyst 9.x beta driver gives over 10% performance improvement when running Crysis, CoD, or FC2 on 4870x2 at 1920x1200 (with Catalyst 8.12 as baseline of 1.0):

1920 x 1200 2560 x 1600
No AA/No AF 4xAA/8xAF No AA/No AF 4xAA/8xAF
Crysis 1.14 1.09 1.11 0.97
CoD: WaW 1.14 1.11 1.08 0.97
Far Cry 2 1.12 1.02 1.03 1.02
Left 4 Dead 0.99 1.00 1.00 1.00

(2) nvidia's new driver 181.20 beta also gives over 10% performance improvement on GTX 295 (with previous version 180.87 beta as baseline of 1):

1920 x 1200 2560 x 1600
No AA/No AF 4xAA/8xAF No AA/No AF 4xAA/8xAF
Crysis 1.10 0.99 1.10 1.29
CoD: WaW 1.13 1.06 1.08 0.98
Far Cry 2 1.23 1.08 1.20 1.08
Left 4 Dead 1.14 1.04 1.01 1.00

(3) When both GTX 295 and 4870x2 use the latest driver, GTX 295 still manage to give an average of 10% advantage over the 4870x2 (with 4870x2 on Catalyst 9.x beta as baseline of 1) but Cysis performs very poorly on GTX 295 at 2560x1600 with 4xAA/8xAF:

1920 x 1200 2560 x 1600
No AA/No AF 4xAA/8xAF No AA/No AF 4xAA/8xAF
Crysis 1.11 0.94 1.05 0.20
CoD: WaW 1.26 1.04 1.21 1.28
Far Cry 2 1.06 1.12 1.03 1.23
Left 4 Dead 1.15 1.19 1.10 1.25
World in Cnflt 1.05 1.11 1.07 1.12

Both ATI and nvidia have their respective areas in their beta drivers to work on!!!

 

[scryer_360]

Well, at least we know what card to use when Micro ATX Socket 1366 motherboards become available for those of us wanting small-case performance.

 

[randomizer]

[citation][nom]wdmso[/nom]what about image Quality? DVD or HD play back? for the extra cash spent is it even any better than a single 4870 or a 9800 love the articlesBut getting board with stats that the human eyes can't process more than 50 fps from what i read heres another site http://www.100fps.com/how_many_fra [...] ns_see.htm ..also refresh rate of your monitor must affect something just thinking out loud[/citation]
Who cares about what you can see? A game is smoother at 120FPS than 50FPS, there is no doubt about it for me. Others can't see the difference after 40FPS. Motion blur helps with making the game appear smoother, but it also lowers framerate, which makes it less fluid, and you're back at square one.

 

[kschoche]

[citation][nom]wdmso[/nom]what about image Quality? DVD or HD play back? for the extra cash spent is it even any better than a single 4870 or a 9800 love the articlesBut getting board with stats that the human eyes can't process more than 50 fps from what i read heres another site http://www.100fps.com/how_many_fra [...] ns_see.htm ..also refresh rate of your monitor must affect something just thinking out loud[/citation]

I have a 1080p LCD tv that refreshes at 120hz, I can hook my computer up to it and game and then the tv certainly is capable of playing all of those frames, and will probably look jittery when its not getting 120fps?? I'm not sure, I would assume so.

 

[eklipz330]

Do any of you seriously need to play like 100frames per second? Whoever got the Ultra back in the day is still laughing all the way back from the bank...

 

[eklipz330]

ACTUALLY, now that I think of it, the 4850 is VERY close to the ULTRA, and I only got it for $150!!! w00t, im cool. I'll keep it till I have to drop to med settings in games, than I shall get Socket 1529348904, with a 512core processor and 256gb of Ram!

 

[anonymous x]

32 bit vista? is that a typo?
with 6 GB of dual channel ddr3 and about a GB of framebuffer for the video cards, wouldn't 64 bit make more sense (since most people with these outrageous systems would have 64 bit vista anyway).

 

[Crashman]

[citation][nom]anonymous x[/nom]32 bit vista? is that a typo?with 6 GB of dual channel ddr3 and about a GB of framebuffer for the video cards, wouldn't 64 bit make more sense (since most people with these outrageous systems would have 64 bit vista anyway).[/citation]

Yeh, it was a typo. It looks like someone fixed it.

 

[zodiacfml]

i think eyes can perceive differences of around/near 75 fps.
although, mainstream lcd's are only up to 60Hz.

anyways, regarding extreme fps. i think you have to read the conclusion again why they recommend a single gtx 295.

[citation][nom]wdmso[/nom]what about image Quality? DVD or HD play back? for the extra cash spent is it even any better than a single 4870 or a 9800 love the articlesBut getting board with stats that the human eyes can't process more than 50 fps from what i read heres another site http://www.100fps.com/how_many_fra [...] ns_see.htm ..also refresh rate of your monitor must affect something just thinking out loud[/citation]

 

[V3NOM]

guys seriously... if you want to game at 2560x1600, you therefore have a 30" monitor. and if you can afford a 30" monitor, you may as well get a larger 1080p HDTV....

i mean even in this day and age, an 8800GT will max pretty much any game (including crysis! just not 16xAA....) at normal resolutions.

people need to get this into their heads

 

[randomizer]

[citation][nom]V3NOM[/nom]guys seriously... if you want to game at 2560x1600, you therefore have a 30" monitor. and if you can afford a 30" monitor, you may as well get a larger 1080p HDTV....i mean even in this day and age, an 8800GT will max pretty much any game (including crysis! just not 16xAA....) at normal resolutions.people need to get this into their heads[/citation]I disagree, an 8800GTS 512MB is not sufficient for many games at 1680x1050. Also, a 30" LCD is better than a HDTV. Why would I buy a bigger screen with lower resolution?

 

[neiroatopelcc]

[citation][nom]eklipz330[/nom]Do any of you seriously need to play like 100frames per second? Whoever got the Ultra back in the day is still laughing all the way back from the bank...[/citation]
Yes! We do need that.
ps. anyone with an old gtx is laughing his pants off at the idiot who got the ultra, and anyone who cares about graphics will consider your card incomplete - as it needs another to be useful.
[citation][nom]randomizer[/nom]I disagree, an 8800GTS 512MB is not sufficient for many games at 1680x1050. Also, a 30" LCD is better than a HDTV. Why would I buy a bigger screen with lower resolution?[/citation]
Exactly. Those nice midrange cards of old aren't enough anymore. They do a decent job on a 19" monitor, but new games on 22" and up comes with compromises.

ps. I'd get the hdtv, cause it's cheaper.

 

[addiktion]

If it wasn't for gamers undying need to always be cutting edge with graphics cards they wouldn't be priced so high! But back on topic this card is pretty impressive. It's out of my blood for a video card but then again I don't game that much anymore. Instead I need something with 3 DVI ports that can support (3) 26'' monitors.

 

[Crashman]

[citation][nom]neiroatopelcc[/nom]I'd get the hdtv, cause it's cheaper.[/citation]

Me too! But only because it's too hard to see any detail on a 30" display from twelve feet away. I'd rather be hanging out than sitting at this desk!

 

[syquest1]

When will there be a driver for Windows 7? I am using it right now and I just installed a BFG GTX 295 but cant get any games to run because there is no driver for Windows 7.

 

[neiroatopelcc]

No I imagine those could be hard to come by.
I assume you have tried to look for beta drivers.
Inevitably you may want to wait till there's a RC of windows 7 before you start toying with it in combination with games.