GeForce GTX 480 And 470: From Fermi And GF100 To Actual Cards!

[martin0642]

I just want to say thank you to the people who chose to comment. By reading the article, it is never clear what the actual result is. TOM'S needs to give a "Thesis Statement" for the conclusion. I appreciate the honesty in the comments, because I have read Tom's since the mid 90s and I am just too old to care about 9 pages of results. I have been 1337 and I no longer care. Now, I just want the brass tacks, so give me one paragraph that sums it up. Journalistic honesty, and a conclusion, would be nice. C-Span is for reporting, Toms is educated commentary.

 

[infernus42]

60% faster than a Radeon 5870 is what nV claimed. Wonder if humble pie comes in flavors other than bitter...

 

[smyter_68]

I have always been an Nvidia fan. But my last card was ATI, and it looks like my next card will be ATI. If Nvidia was serious, they would have launched this card with a drastically reduced price and taken the crown by a price vs performance comparison.

Fermi will go down in infamy as the great green hope.

Sidenote: I am really interested in what middle maket cards evolve from this. Although from the power/heat perspective, I am not holding my breath.

 

[smyter_68]

I have always been an Nvidia fan. But my last card was ATI, and it looks like my next card will be ATI. If Nvidia was serious, they would have launched this card with a drastically reduced price and taken the crown by a price vs performance comparison.

Fermi will go down in infamy as the great green hope.

Sidenote: I am really interested in what middle maket cards evolve from this. Although from the power/heat perspective, I am not holding my breath.

 

[Guest]

I have a single 8800 GTX and it works just fine for even Bad Company 2. Only way I see myself getting anything new is if I won the lottery or something...

 

[cbrei10213]

Though I was pessimistic the entire time before the release I still held onto some hope for these cards. They dont live up to their hype though IMO. We'll see what happens when they release the 512 SP cards and rename it GTX495 or something. Nice try nVidia. Maybe next time.

 

[Guest]

Holy crap - a single GTX 480 beats a dual GPU 5970 by 25% in Unigine Heaven 2.0, that's a pretty embarrassing for ATI, it shows the weakness of their tessellation when 2 of their GPUs can't even compete with one Fermi - ouch.

Link here - http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1258/9/

 

[Reynod]

Which is a useless demo program ... your point is?

 

[PrangeWay]

Bleh. I've held off upgrading my 285 SLI's to 5870's hoping that Fermi would rock. But doesn't look like it at all

 

[Guest]

"Which is a useless demo program ... your point is?"

ATI won't be able to handle complex DX11 games nearly as well as Fermi. So maybe pointless now, but whenever the *next* eye-candy games hits the market, Fermi will dominate.

I am shocked that ATI's tessellation performance is that poor with 2 GPUs - so this is an eye opener for me.

 

[ulukai]

Ok so here is a question. If you want to build a high end system now with dual cards, would you go with two Radeon HD 5970s or with two GTX 480s? Both setups would be watercooled, and not overclocked.

 

[brisingamen]

i am very skeptical of the tesselation specific benchmarking programs because in games with tesselation it doesnt show such a gap, and ati will assurdly make driver optimizations to games that people actually play, i think it shows the capability of nvidia cards well but, until something of that magnitude is actually released i wouldnt put much stock in them at all.

 

[dfusco]

[citation][nom]ulukai[/nom]Ok so here is a question. If you want to build a high end system now with dual cards, would you go with two Radeon HD 5970s or with two GTX 480s? Both setups would be watercooled, and not overclocked.[/citation]

Now? Well NOW I would have to go with The Radeon HD 5970's as the GTX 480's are not available for sale yet thanks to nvidias paper launch.

 

[ulukai]

Well, when it becomes available in a couple weeks then, lol.

 

[Guest]

Has anybody done any in-depth analysis on why ATI has issues with tessellation? I am trying to understand if this is an architectural issue, lack of processing power?

If anybody knows of an article or a link somewhere explaining how an otherwise really fast card like 5970 has poor tessellation performance - doesn't seem to make sense to me.

 

[kdashjl]

waiting the revenge of fermi

 

[Guest]

I agree on the heat levels on GTX280 ,running 7-8 months on 1900/1200 ,they burned out for me. No more nvidia until my ATI makes me dissapointed now....

 

[BigFan]

Guess I picked wrong, ATI ended up winning the WAR. I will be back to you and once again be a loyal customer. Tom's as always great articles, really needed my FIX.

 

[Guest]

Lol, 5970 still beats it in everything.

Honestly, I dont see any justification to pay over $300 for a card in the last couple years. They are very wasteful, also. If you want to toss money down the drain, or you play at 2000+ resolutions (pointless), go ahead, lose all your money on high-end hardware. It takes only a 1400x900 with an 8800GT to enjoy any game released in the past 3 years.

 

[hixbot]

hmm, the article says it does LPCM, but then says it doesn't do lossless audio, what gives? bitstreaming isn't the only available transport of lossless audio. LPCM can transport lossless audio.

 

[sven]

this scores are really bad, i as hopping to see amazing high scores on the new nvidia cards, these results are so bad that im gonna get ati for sure, thats a shame cause i really like nvidia.

 

[MasterDOOM]

Sorry guys but WTF in 6 mounts after milion of promise prom Nvidia I have expect that Nvidia will come with a big monster and This is all what he Get ? ATI Still Winer Bye Bye Fermy

 

[Guest]

"Lol, 5970 still beats it in everything. "

Wrong http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1258/9/ - a single GTX 480 (one GPU) beats 5970 with 2 GPUs in a big way. So not in *everything*

 

[Guest]

"Benchmark Results: The Unigine Heaven 2.0 Benchmark is tessellation heavy and it showed that the NVIDIA GTX 480 video card had a 25% performance increase over the dual-GPU powered Sapphire Radeon HD 5970 that beat it in the original Heaven 1.0 benchmark. This goes to show that when it comes to extreme tessellation settings that the GTX 480 has some serious potential and if games get into heavy tessellation the architecture of the GeForce GTX 480 will dominate the competition."

 

[MasterDOOM]

[citation][nom]notreally[/nom]"Lol, 5970 still beats it in everything. "Wrong http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1258/9/ - a single GTX 480 (one GPU) beats 5970 with 2 GPUs in a big way. So not in *everything*[/citation]
Come on....... 1 test ? Look rest Big Power Consum ! Extreme sillent is 480 = Extreme MEGA HOT ! Man Nvidia have some big problems with the world crisis and belive me look at the price 480 500 Euro and 5870 400 euro = 100 euro extra cash just for 5-10 More FPS ? No way