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Again still people are not even taking time to look in front at all i mean seriously at all. Stop comparing new tech to rebrands. AMD is fucked? where? They just have to implement new tech all the same. AMD always does this, wait for nvidia to release something good and expensive, then step up their tech and release at lower price
I was disappointed in the Kaveri and upset that AMD dumped the FX series to make APU's exclusively. But I love me 7770 which played pretty good at 1080 and they always had the better price. What Maxwell seems to be at first glance is a major game changer. Like the Core 2 Duo on the processor side. This thing is better performance per watt than anything AMD has to offer. So they are being squeezed from both sides. The CPU side is abysmal vs Intel. AMD shugs it off because of the IGPU advantage which is not growing but shrinking with Intel. AMD then claims its focus on portables and tablets not desktops. The Samsung and Nvidia Tegra 4 in the tablet space it clobbering them. AMD shrugs this off because they have the GPU market value play. Well unless they start selling R9 270's for $149.99 instead of 239.99 they aren't that good a deal anymore. I don't know what the CEO is doing but you can't survive turning out 2 tier product in every category you compete in. This thing and an i3 in a tablet would destroy an A10 and the battery would last twice as long.
About that, kaveri is new APU update. But if u followed the FM2+ path, u would notice that they discontinued AM3+ to make all future chips FM2+ not completely dissolving the CPU only chip. They have not yet entered production phase probably still planning new architecture
No they actually announced they are no longer going to make the FX series and are abandoning their most ardent supporters to become a mediocre tablet cpu company..
Unless there's an actual statement agreeing with this, it's not correct; roadmaps that lack information don't necessarily mean there aren't plans to bring FX back, and in any case, roadmaps are always subject to change.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20131113225841_AMD_Cans_Plans_to_Introduce_Next_Gen_FX_Microprocessors_Next_Year.html
Well no showing on any 2014 roadmap at least says they canned it this year. Even if the roadmap changes it's tough to get it into this year with AMD's 20nm tapeout comment. They don't even have a 20nm soc coming this year (seattle is server only and 28nm, with no modem in house this makes sense, but still sad) which is much more simple to design and manufacture than a large cpu. So if they can't fund a 20nm soc while funding 28nm seattle, I don't hold any hope of a 20nm FX cpu this year or probably even next year as they already have too much on their plate for their balance sheet.
This is why you have phase3 drivers coming, freesync that isn't a product, cpu race that is over, soc race not even hitting 20nm as everyone else gears up 20nm socs and even then only server, no modem so phones miles away (as everyone wants it IN HOUSE now), vid card launches NOT hard, soft and lacking a decent ref design (290/290x could cut retail speeds), mantle in beta after 2+yrs of working with Dice etc etc...Consoles created all the current R&D funding issues and diverted attention from their CORE products and customers. Bummer. AMD just keeps getting weaker. Even NV said they couldn't afford consoles without taking R&D from other areas, so how the heck can AMD afford it without everything else suffering as we see from the list of problems? Laying off 30% of your engineers can't help with R&D either. All of it adds up to a 'get ready for crap products going forward' situation for at least a while. R&D funding gets you a card like 750ti that is 43% more transistors, only 25% bigger doing it and at the same time far less power hungry. Those numbers should only be possible with a die shrink. Which truly makes you wonder what 20nm high-end will look like. I think we're in for a holy crap moment with no answer from AMD but another hot, high watt, high noise part at best and we'll keep going further down if they don't get something that massively adds to their bottom line.
GF will steal any profits from last Q and most from this Q (or all?) as AMD owes 200mil from Dec 31 and will likely get burned with another fine this year since they opted NOT to produce console chips at GF and instead chose TSMC. Producing these at GF was really the only way to meet new WSA contracts. So we have another fine coming unless something magical happens, with the only question being how big a fine will they owe? Basically the first 6 months of this years profits (assuming they make some next Q) are gone and wasted. ARM is coming for x86 (already has 21% of ALL notebooks), Intel is now coming for low end, and NV is looking like R&D on core products is about to bury AMD in gpus (along with the ARM Denver chips coming after notebooks/desktops soon and boulder coming for server probably next year). I don't see how AMD makes money on anything but consoles and they won't break 480mil for the year even if they have a repeat of xmas for 4 quarters in a row (which only netted AMD ~45mil anyway last Q).
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/174980-its-time-for-amd-to-take-a-page-from-intel-and-dump-steamroller/2
"During its Q3 2013 conference call, AMD CEO Rory Read noted that the company would begin taping out new 20nm designs “in the next couple of quarters.” That means no Excavator core until 2015 or so."
Design times don't lie, and are very difficult to speed up much. So as I said, no core until 2015 if ever again. If you're taping out in the next few quarters we're not likely to see anything from the FX line in 2015. With funding for lots of projects not really being possible for AMD their first 20nm chips would be SOC's, GPU's and APU's not an FX line (even Intel gave up the enthusiast CPU in favor of APU models). They have already given up on the cpu perf race with Intel in public statements so the enthusiast FX line would be a last priority if it isn't ZERO priority already. Unless you have data that says otherwise, everything we know says don't expect an FX chip any time soon. Roadmaps ALONE might not tell the full story, but those with statements from the company, financial data, along with what we know about production says the roadmaps are telling the truth.
Worst info of the day?:
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/176919-amd-leak-confirms-that-excavator-apu-will-be-28nm-and-that-some-production-is-moving-back-to-globalfoundries
28nm excavator APU. OUCH. So this won't be leaps and bounds above Kaveri with no 20nm either (I'm guessing Intel may catch AMD's APU's gpus this year or next year as AMD delays 20nm APU at least some). Though the 65w suggests possibly a better process, it's still 2015 and as I said the SOC/APU/GPU will come first for 20nm not an FX line and we see carrizo here in 2015. Toronto server cpu 2015 possibly also, but server. There is no point in trying to compete with 14nm broadwell with a 28nm Carrizo right? I'd only think something is coming if their Q3 comments said "just taped out 20nm FX last Q and we'll have some 20nm to compete with 14nm broadwell" and even then it would likely be no different than the current haswell/FX line story.
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