Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

[StupidComputers]

13700k on msi 690, Nh-D15, 32gb 6400/C32, 3080 ftw3, 850w ti

I forgot all about the intel 13/14 gen issues, as mine doesn't crash. I just came across it again (too busy for too long, but that's done tg).

I see everyone screaming to update your bios right away! Few go on to mention that you need to select the profile for Intel default voltages etc after that.

So here's my take: Why do I want these idiots dictating my voltages again - especially as I've read that after this "fix" the chips run much hotter and throttle.

When I decided/just gave up and bought this, I knew it was halfway to an igniter. I had no intention of letting do what it wanted. When I went to poke around whilst learning to undervolt it, I saw stupidly high voltages - just like I've seen with other Intel builds for over a decade. But I also found MSI's Lite Load tool, aaaand no need to learn too much about undervolting. Picked almost or the lowest stable mode, got within 500pts of r23 cpu default score at 10C cooler, no throttling, called it job done.

So I have never crashed how they say, (or at all since initial setup), zero instability, I'm permanently and ideally undervolted. I can't see any reason to change the bios or my voltage profile. Maybe the microcode without their new voltages prevents problems without causing new ones? I have been absent in focus for a while, so I thought I'd check with those in the know.

To install new bios and/or profile or just stay with what seems to be pretty damn solid? Thanks.

 

[ex_bubblehead]

Unless the notes accompanying the BIOS update specifically state that it fixes a problem that you have been encountering there is never a reason to update BIOS "just because".

 

[thestryker]

Since you note that you're undervolting it shouldn't matter at all. The microcode changes are to address stock VID requests and cap voltage so as long as you've manually tuned your system it's fine. Should you stop doing this for any reason then you'd want to look into updating the BIOS.

 

[StupidComputers]

Since you note that you're undervolting it shouldn't matter at all. The microcode changes are to address stock VID requests and cap voltage so as long as you've manually tuned your system it's fine. Should you stop doing this for any reason then you'd want to look into updating the BIOS.

Thanks, that was my guess. I should point out that I didn't manually undervolt it. MSI has "Lite Load" profiles which have their set of researched value combinations for undervolting, so there may be some voltages left unaddressed, I'm not super sure - I really should check.

My assumption is no instability no problem. And for whatever reason, their profile seems to be solid. Sigh, I'll need to take a look at what's being pulled.

 

[StupidComputers]

Unless the notes accompanying the BIOS update specifically state that it fixes a problem that you have been encountering there is never a reason to update BIOS "just because".

And I never have lol, well maybe before I learned that especially with BIOS, if it ain't broke don't fix it. The problem here is that it might be broke and getting more broke in secret.

Stupid intel and asus, they've been overvolting their defaults for over 10 years - that I'm aware of, maybe longer, probably longer.

 

[thestryker]

Thanks, that was my guess. I should point out that I didn't manually undervolt it. MSI has "Lite Load" profiles which have their set of researched value combinations for undervolting, so there may be some voltages left unaddressed, I'm not super sure - I really should check.

My assumption is no instability no problem. And for whatever reason, their profile seems to be solid. Sigh, I'll need to take a look at what's being pulled.

Yeah definitely investigate to make sure all is good. Given the nature of the problem it's not something you really want to take chances on as the effects could appear down the road.