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Lots of P965 boards have the JMicron JMB363 disk controller (A combination SATA/PATA model). The PATA ports on this controller are notorious for not working with Linux, at least not with the vast majority of distributions. So go with a 975X, a SiS chipset, or a Nvidia chipset instead if you are planning on using Linux.
 
Personally I wouldn't touch an MSI board with yours if you know what I mean.
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I'm not sure what you are getting at? I have an MSI mainboard and it runs fine, it OCs very well too, probably only second to the XBX(badaxe) for a X975 overclocker. So, what is supposedly wrong with these boards?

Hi rammedstein.

The MSI boards are usually towards the top of the performance charts, however they still ahve serious reliability problems. Back in the days of the Athlon XP chips I had 4 in a month go on me, and nearly every one I sold failed under warranty. Eventually we pulled them from our range. When we tried them again last year they were better but we were still on around a 20% failure rate which is far to high. Obviously user error and incompetance has some effect on this, but if u compare that to Epox, Gigabyte, Asrock and even ECS boards (which I will stand by as bloody reliable if not the most exciting) these brands all came in below 4% return rate which is excellent. So once again we binned them from our range. MSI are frustrating because when they work, like you say, they work very well, its just keeping them working.
 
ahh, yes, i can see where your coming from, although i have not had any problems with MSI hardware over the years, i can understand your reasoning, i hope i still continue to have my luck.
 
bottom line - it sesms that the DS3 will be fine, if you really care about your sperm them where gloves, but if it is Rohs complinet it should be a problem.

the end


(this has to be the daftest conversation yet 8O )
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To put an end to this debate: note the giant Pb with a slash through it - lead free/RoHS compliant. Anybody bother to actually :idea: look at one of these boards before spouting all this BS about lead? :?:

(not directed at Dobby, who I agree with, this conversation is daft)
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Senor_Bob said:
bottom line - it sesms that the DS3 will be fine, if you really care about your sperm them where gloves, but if it is Rohs complinet it should be a problem.

the end


(this has to be the daftest conversation yet 8O )
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To put an end to this debate: note the giant Pb with a slash through it - lead free/RoHS compliant. Anybody bother to actually :idea: look at one of these boards before spouting all this BS about lead? :?:

Man I have to agree with your, I haver never heard so much b/s spouted about lead in a compoent in my life. What are these guys going to do? Lick their boards every day!!!

As Bob points out there are lots and lots of standards these days that govern the use of toxic materials and certain metals in the constructio of electrical components.

When was the last time you didn't buy a car battery because it was a lead-acid one? I bet the answer is that it never crossed your mind. The reason it never crossed your mind is because it is a total non issue.
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also, i've never overclocked before and am basically gleaning bit by bit from this and other forums... so i see a lot of overclocking with fsb's set around 200 to 500MHz, how does this translate to a mobo's support of 1333MHz? isn't that way higher than any overclocker nowadays needs?
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This is one of the confusing aspects to Intel terminology. What you see listed as ranging from 200 to 500 MHz is the actual clock frequency of the front side bus. This is also the frequency that the CPU multiplier is based on - for example, a C2D E6600 has an internal multiplier of 9, which combined with the rated FSB frequency of 266.7 MHz gives the 2.4 GHz rated speed.
The front side bus is "quad pumped" meaning that it makes four transfers within each of these clock cycles. Intel calls the the FSB rating this combined transfer rate, such that the E6600 from the previous example is rated to have a front side bus of 266.7 MHz* 4 = 1066 MHz. Therefore the claimed 1333 MHz FSB corresponds to an actual frequency of 333 MHz, which would set our hypothetical E6600 to run at an even 3 GHz if we OC to 333MHz (Intel-speak 1333 MHz FSB). I don't know why we have the conflicting interpretations floating around, you just get to pick up which one somebody is using from the context. Basically FSB 200-500 means they are using the actual frequency method, FSB 800 up means they are using Intel's terminology. (Some older P4's had Intel-speak FSB of 533 or maybe even lower, but nobody cares about those any more).
 
If one was to use the computer for a HTPC and have a linux distro on the drive (along with Windows on another partition), which would you recommend?

I'm thinking of these:
Abit AB9 Pro $173.88
Asus P5B-E
MSI P965 Platinum
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3
Biostar Tforce 965PT

They're in order from most expensive to cheapest. I'm leaning towards the last two (Gigabyte and Biostar) since they're cheaper (price cuts) and the main usuage will be video encoding/transcoding or just video intensive work.

I also read that it doesn't matter if it's an ATI or Nvidia video card in P965 boards but can anyone recommend which one to get (looking at ATI 1650 to 1950 series v.s. Geforce 79xx series GT).

Btw, if I'm going to have SATA optical drives (DVD and HD), I don't have to be as concerned with the JMicron controller when using linux, right?
 
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