Gtx 670 vs 7970 with latest drivers.

[Chad11491]

I know this question has been asked alot, but it seems that all the benchmarks with AMD's latest drivers and few with Nvidia's latest (310.6 / 310.7) .

My question is this. I have a 560 ti, and I'm looking at upgrading after Christmas. I was wondering what the performance difference is now that Nvidia has rolled out a new driver to combat AMD's 12.11 betas.

Anyone with a 670 on latest drivers compare their performance to the 7970 (non ghz) after the 310.7 drivers?

I only game at 1920*1080p , but I want to futureproof for at least a year, maybe two.

I'm pretty hesitant going with AMD as i've always been team green, and physx and all that (although it's pretty much only in batman and borderlands at this point, and hawken?) . Are AMD's drivers generally bad? and what is you guys recommendations?

I'm sorry to ask ANOTHER thread on this, but I haven't noticed any up to date comparisons or benches in my searches.

Thanks all!

 

[Mousemonkey]

Haha +1 to that 🙂 And nice use of camel case there! omnimodis78, what's the grey screen of death? I also had absolutely terrible experiences with AMD's tech support (with regards to my £500/$750 dual-GPU monster card running Dead Space 2 at below 1fps) and ended up giving up with them. After 4 months of Catalyst updates, I could finally play my game. Could be something to do with the fact that a month earlier, Radeon 6990 was released. So why bother making games play at all on some ancient one-year-old flagship model when there's 2% gain optimising to be done on their new models! </rant> anyway. At least I got to play it eventually (pretty cool game too).

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ATI-Radeon-Gray-Screen-Crash,9529.html 😗

 

[bigcyco1]

The way to make people lose their mind in these threads is to bring up lol!! [flash=560,315]http://www.youtube.com/v/kAfzjTAhpBk?version=3&hl=en_US[/flash][/quotemsg]

 

[Mousemonkey]

The way to make people lose their mind in these threads is to bring up lol!! [flash=560,315]http://www.youtube.com/v/kAfzjTAhpBk?version=3&hl=en_US[/flash]

[/quotemsg]
Borderlands 2 whilst a good giggle is only a DX9 game and can probably be maxxed out with a single 8800GT! :lol:

 

[jonjonjon]

amd still has a ways to go on drivers. with that said i would still probably get a 7970.

http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6480/amd-enduro-beta-take-three

We're still back to the same old refrain: where AMD really needs to work is on their drivers and updates. The 7970M is their halo mobile GPU, so it's getting good support (now). In fact, most of the 7000M products are receiving decent support, but earlier Enduro/Dynamic Switchable Graphics laptops are still a bit finicky about getting drivers installed. My overall feeling is that NVIDIA has also had more high profile games in the past couple years; AMD looks like they have a good list of titles for this holiday season, and hopefully they can continue that.

 

[bigcyco1]

Borderlands 2 whilst a good giggle is only a DX9 game and can probably be maxxed out with a single 8800GT! :lol:[/quotemsg]

 

[sam_p_lay]

Borderlands 2 whilst a good giggle is only a DX9 game and can probably be maxxed out with a single 8800GT! :lol:[/quotemsg]

Haha yeah, I maxed it on my 4870 and it was fine, except one or two areas like Washburne Refinery, where it really struggled. Thing is here though, a 7970 won't do the PhysX, while a GTX670 will.

 

[bigshootr8]

lol big! Keep in mind to you can't get high physx on a amd card only medium and when you use medium its being processed by the cpu. hacked drivers don't count and probably aren't nearly as reliable. It baffles me to that its a DX9 game 😛 Show Arkham City Phsyx DX11 goodness. Btw game of the year edition on sale for sale for 7.49 on steam woot! (tossing out the cd)

[flash=560,315]http://www.youtube.com/v/thCWFXVCH3A?hl=en_US&version=3[/flash]

 

[Mousemonkey]

Borderlands 2 whilst a good giggle is only a DX9 game and can probably be maxxed out with a single 8800GT! :lol:

Haha yeah, I maxed it on my 4870 and it was fine, except one or two areas like Washburne Refinery, where it really struggled. Thing is here though, a 7970 won't do the PhysX, while a GTX670 will.[/quotemsg]
Yep, can't deny that.

 

[sam_p_lay]

Er... what's going on with the quotes here?

 

[sam_p_lay]

And thanks for the grey screen link, I had no idea about this! At least that's one thing the damned 5970 did right. AMD seem to have a lot of luck bouncing back from this kind of thing. You'd think something like this would really dent their reputation!

 

[bigshootr8]

Big how did you link a video object I've tried a few things it doesn't work >>

 

[Mousemonkey]

And thanks for the grey screen link, I had no idea about this! At least that's one thing the damned 5970 did right. AMD seem to have a lot of luck bouncing back from this kind of thing. You'd think something like this would really dent their reputation!

The ATI/AMD faithful have been rather stellar in their shouting down of anyone who dares to mention anything about the crap that their favourite company produces, I wouldn't spend any of my money on their cards but if others want to then that is up to them.

 

[sam_p_lay]

The ATI/AMD faithful have been rather stellar in their shouting down of anyone who dares to mention anything about the crap that their favourite company produces, I wouldn't spend any of my money on their cards but if others want to then that is up to them.

LOL! Well I won't argue with that. I've used a few Radeons, but each was a negative experience in at least one way. I think the 5970 was worst of all, despite the insane pricetag (that you'd think might be indicative of quality). The only totally positive experiences I've had with flawless performance, stability and no glitches/driver issues were nVidia. My next card will be a GTX770. I'm using a 4870 as a temporary measure until the release, and system keeps hanging for a second or two since I installed it... but whatever. I can deal with it for a few more months until my computer becomes a thing of beauty 🙂

 

[simmons33]

Ive had quite a few NvIDIA driver horror stories. (302.xx being the most recent) Of course, I could just be an idiot. But most of my problems were the same issues people were shouting out in GeForce Forums about.

I agree with bigcyco1, Thats pretty much the choice you have to make. Ive always been Nvidia on my major systems and have used AMD/ATI as a budget option.

I can say Ive always had a good experience with GeForce. Cant say anything about AMD/ATI as the only AMD/ATI cards I ever had were Low end Mobile models

 

[bigcyco1]

Big how did you link a video object I've tried a few things it doesn't work >>

Click quote on my post you will see 😉

 

[Mousemonkey]

Ive had quite a few NvIDIA driver horror stories. (302.xx being the most recent) Of course, I could just be an idiot. But most of my problems were the same issues people were shouting out in GeForce Forums about.

I agree with bigcyco1, Thats pretty much the choice you have to make. Ive always been Nvidia on my major systems and have used AMD/ATI as a budget option.

I can say Ive always had a good experience with GeForce. Cant say anything about AMD/ATI as the only AMD/ATI cards I ever had were Low end Mobile models

I did a jump from 301.42 to 304.48 so I didn't see any of the issues you might have had.

 

[bigshootr8]

Thanks big I figured it out!

 

[RussK1]

What nvidia driver horror stories ? :O
Nvidia had better drivers before and still has better drivers today, saying that switching nvidia to amd cause of the drivers, made me laugh...
As for the question, see bigcyco1 post.

What you don't know about the drivers that fried cards?

 

[bigcyco1]

Thanks big I figured it out!

No problem.

 

[Mousemonkey]

What you don't know about the drivers that fried cards?

It didn't fry all cards and Nvidia did tell their partners to replace any cards that were damaged which is a darn sight more than ATI/AMD have ever done when their drivers cause problems that render their cards next to useless.

 

[sam_p_lay]

What you don't know about the drivers that fried cards?

Yeah that was nVidia's big mistake - a glitch in the driver made the fans not spin up faster as temperature increased (like they're meant to), meaning some people's cards overheated. Big screwup there, though covered by warranty of course. I'm not sure that general glitchyness/flakeyness with Radeon drivers would be grounds for an RMA - manfs would just tell people that it's a software issue and AMD are working on it (like that grey screen business above).

EDIT: That is an awesome avatar, RussK1 :-D

 

[simmons33]

I did a jump from 301.42 to 304.48 so I didn't see any of the issues you might have had.

296.10 on my 550ti caused weird pink and green pixels in WoW.

302.xx Caused my monitor to not be recognized at all. Had no screen whatsoever. Had to take the 550ti out, boot up with Intel HD 2000, System restore back a month since Nvidia would not let me download drivers since they didnt detect a Nvidia GPU in my system (Cause I took it out, I couldnt boot with it in the first place). Put GPU back in, Delete old drivers and give them a fresh install of 285.62.

Using a 660 with 306.97 and no issues at all =D

If your curious Mousemonkey =D

DISCLAIMER!

"This post should in no way discourage the origianl poster as these issues can arise depending on user configuration, application used, and Driver Stability from either company"

See what I did there

Also wasnt using addons as they are unstable at best. Issues arised from a clean install of both Windows and WoW

 

[bigshootr8]

Yea no one is perfect in terms of drivers/ product issues. I prefer companies to make these bad mistakes so they learn from it look at AMD they have been doing quite well in the graphics sector this generation despite I suppose this long history of drivers going abrupt.

 

[Mousemonkey]

296.10 on my 550ti caused weird pink and green pixels in WoW.

302.xx Caused my monitor to not be recognized at all. Had no screen whatsoever. Had to take the 550ti out, boot up with Intel HD 2000, System restore back a month since Nvidia would not let me download drivers since they didnt detect a Nvidia GPU in my system (Cause I took it out, I couldnt boot with it in the first place). Put GPU back in, Delete old drivers and give them a fresh install of 285.62.

Using a 660 with 306.97 and no issues at all =D

If your curious Mousemonkey =D

I'm not but then I don't play WoW (which is known to be buggy anyway) so I didn't have any problems with that driver.

 

[bigshootr8]

Right and one can't attribute for the addons you may have been using that may have conflicted with your experience.