Gtx 670 vs 7970 with latest drivers.

[Chad11491]

I know this question has been asked alot, but it seems that all the benchmarks with AMD's latest drivers and few with Nvidia's latest (310.6 / 310.7) .

My question is this. I have a 560 ti, and I'm looking at upgrading after Christmas. I was wondering what the performance difference is now that Nvidia has rolled out a new driver to combat AMD's 12.11 betas.

Anyone with a 670 on latest drivers compare their performance to the 7970 (non ghz) after the 310.7 drivers?

I only game at 1920*1080p , but I want to futureproof for at least a year, maybe two.

I'm pretty hesitant going with AMD as i've always been team green, and physx and all that (although it's pretty much only in batman and borderlands at this point, and hawken?) . Are AMD's drivers generally bad? and what is you guys recommendations?

I'm sorry to ask ANOTHER thread on this, but I haven't noticed any up to date comparisons or benches in my searches.

Thanks all!

 

[sam_p_lay]

I can name a lot of members who do the above aforementioned things and game.

Hardly representative of the wider public though is it? If an OP mentions compute, Bit Coin Mining or whatever else then it's relevant to the discussion.

And it does have something to do with gaming...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/directcompute-opencl-gpu-acceleration,3146.html

Conclusion of that article is titled "GPU Compute In Games: A Work In Progress". Concludes that compute in games is likely to be significant at some point in the future. I'd say something like PhysX is a lot more relevant and noticeable now.

 

[Mousemonkey]

That would be a good test. Turn off smp and just use gpu. Compare 560 ti to 660 ti ppd. (depends on the WU obviously).

The 660Ti's are on par with the 560's when it comes to folding (which is a bit disappointing considering that they have 3x the core count) but they are at least twice as powerful when it comes to gaming, I've already done the tests mate. 😉

 

[RussK1]

I've heard whispers of F@H what is that exactly.

If interested, look into BOINC and Bitcoin mining as well with latter possibly making you money. Takes serious gpu horsepower though.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/How_BOINC_works

http://bitcoin.org/

 

[RussK1]

I'd say something like PhysX is a lot more relevant and noticeable now.

How many games since 2008 actually officially support PhysX? Hint, it's 21

 

[sam_p_lay]

I'd say something like PhysX is a lot more relevant and noticeable now.

How many games since 2008 actually officially support PhysX? Hint, it's 21

So approximately 21 more than benefit from compute.

 

[Mousemonkey]

I'd say something like PhysX is a lot more relevant and noticeable now.

How many games since 2008 actually officially support PhysX? Hint, it's 21

That's still 21 more than have use ATI/AMD's GPU Compute though. 😗

 

[Mousemonkey]

So approximately 21 more than benefit from compute.

Snap! :lol:

 

[sam_p_lay]

Snap! :lol:

Haha great minds 🙂

 

[Brett928S2]

Hi All

Extremely interesting thread, biased on both Red/Green sides of course, but that's Brand loyalty...

My shops build gaming machines and we use BOTH types of cards, depending on which is best at the time....

They tend to switch between both brands around once every six months roughly... and so do we ...

We sell BOTH and with no preferences at all, as long as they make us money...

My own gaming machine (I play FPS only), I tend to put in the Best card in the world, every 2 years , no matter what the cost, sometimes I crossfire/sli, sometimes I don't...

Just changed mine from a pair of crossfired 5870`s (the rare 2gb version) to the best at the moment , which is a 7990 6gb....

I nearly put in the 690 gtx but after reading all the reviews including Toms, I decided that the 7990 JUST had the edge....

Next time (2 years) I would happily put in a Nvidia card assuming its the best....

I have had no real problems with drivers for either make....

All IMHO of course...

I also run SETI ...

All the best Brett

 

[RussK1]

So approximately 21 more than benefit from compute.

Sure... doesn't change the fact AMD cards outperform nVidia in gaming, Compute and price.

 

[bigcyco1]

The fastest best card EVER is the 550 ti

 

[Brett928S2]

The fastest best card EVER is the 550 ti [url]http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing017.gif[/url]

Hi

Hehe, I think you missed out the word WAS in that sentence

All the best Brett

 

[bigcyco1]

Hi

Hehe, I think you missed out the word WAS in that sentence

All the best Brett

 

[bigshootr8]

Maybe big should link that video again. Only flopping I see is AMD stock prices.

 

[djangoringo]

I wouldn't get the 7990 even for free, i have sensitive ears, the extreme whine coil of the card that makes and the poor driver support for crossfire(yes if it doesn't have crossfire support that card is worthless), i'd throw the card out of the window in no time.
The reason only low brands like powercolor or club3d released the 7990, says it all.
I rather get a 690 gtx or two 680 gtx for less price, and with same performance as the 7990, even better in some games...


"sadly this positive start didnt continue in Crysis 2, where at 1,920 x 1,080 the HD 7790 6GB produced a minimum frame rate 1fps slower than a stock HD 7970 3GB (albeit with a much higher average frame rate). This result left it just 3fps behind a GTX 690 4GB, indicating that dual GPU scaling is severely restricted by CPU performance at this resolution in Crysis 2. At 2,560 x 1,600, the HD 7990 6GB's minimum frame rate of 52fps represents a 68 per cent performance boost over a HD 7970 3GB, although it still left it trailing the GTX 690 4GB by a fair margin. Its minimum frame rate of 30fps in this at 5,760 x 1,080 meant it was playable and an impressive 87 per cent better than a HD 7970 3GB, but still 7fps behind the GTX 690 4GB.

The updated Catalyst drivers seem to disagree with our Skyrim test, giving the HD 7970 3GB noticeably worse performance than when running the same test with older drivers. This impacts the HD 7990 6GB too, as its minimum frame rate struggled to eclipse that of single-GPU cards at all resoltuions whilst trailing the GTX 690 4GB by a substantial margin. "
^LOL

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2012/12/07/club-3d-radeon-hd-7990-6gb-review/10

 

[Brett928S2]

I wouldn't get the 7990 even for free, i have sensitive ears, the extreme whine coil of the card that makes and the poor driver support for crossfire(yes if it doesn't have crossfire support that card is worthless), i'd throw the card out of the window in no time.
The reason only low brands like powercolor or club3d released the 7990, says it all.
I rather get a 690 gtx or two 680 gtx for less price, and with same performance as the 7990, even better in some games...


"sadly this positive start didnt continue in Crysis 2, where at 1,920 x 1,080 the HD 7790 6GB produced a minimum frame rate 1fps slower than a stock HD 7970 3GB (albeit with a much higher average frame rate). This result left it just 3fps behind a GTX 690 4GB, indicating that dual GPU scaling is severely restricted by CPU performance at this resolution in Crysis 2. At 2,560 x 1,600, the HD 7990 6GB's minimum frame rate of 52fps represents a 68 per cent performance boost over a HD 7970 3GB, although it still left it trailing the GTX 690 4GB by a fair margin. Its minimum frame rate of 30fps in this at 5,760 x 1,080 meant it was playable and an impressive 87 per cent better than a HD 7970 3GB, but still 7fps behind the GTX 690 4GB.

The updated Catalyst drivers seem to disagree with our Skyrim test, giving the HD 7970 3GB noticeably worse performance than when running the same test with older drivers. This impacts the HD 7990 6GB too, as its minimum frame rate struggled to eclipse that of single-GPU cards at all resoltuions whilst trailing the GTX 690 4GB by a substantial margin. "
^LOL

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2012/12/07/club-3d-radeon-hd-7990-6gb-review/10

Hi

Its not particularly loud... and certainly no louder than my old 5870`s in crossfire...

But I am ANCIENT and a little deaf so maybe i am not a fair judge...lol

All the best Brett

 

[Guest]

Sure... doesn't change the fact AMD cards outperform nVidia in gaming, Compute and price.

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=101,70&sort=a5
😗

 

[sam_p_lay]

Sure... doesn't change the fact AMD cards outperform nVidia in gaming, Compute and price.

Haha yeah I wasn't even gonna bother responding to this one because I can't be bothered to get into another fanboy battle but ^