GTX 970 Issue [Help!]

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Okay. I've recently bought a EVGA GTX 970 ACX2.0 SC 4GB. I'm SOMETIMES reaching 100FPS in Battlefield 4 but when there's fire around(not explosions) I get around 40FPS. Really failing to understand, all temps are fine. Just replaced my FX8320 fan and now reach around 55c when gaming. Here's my specs:
CPU: AMD FX8320 OC'D TO 4.0GHZ- HYPER 103 COOLER
GPU: EVGA GTX 970 ACX2.0 SC EDITION
MOBO: GIGABYTE 78LMT-USB3
RAM: 8GB HYPERX
CASE: ZALMAN Z11 PLUS
PSU: ZALMAN 660W
 
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I've been told to disable 'Cool 'n' Quiet' in the Bios C1, C6 and Turbo Core in which I'll try tomorrow. I'm getting very mixed reactions about me undeclocking my CPU back to 3.5ghz. As its quite late, I'll try all of this tomorrow and see if there's improvement. But please continue to add possible solutions, I'll be very grateful.
 
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This may be due to the VRAM issues with the GTX 970. See :http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-specifications,28464.html
It's quite possible that the fire effects on ultra settings- along with everything else that's going on onscreen at the time- are maxing out the card's usable VRAM.
This is just a theory. I know BF4 is a very graphic intensive game on ultra, even for the GTX 970.
 
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On the vram part are can be observed using msi after burner. Probably the firery part simply more demanding causing the gpu to slow down. Most likely because of light effect that is much more demanding for the gpu to handle. In unigine 4 my 660sli will slow down tremendously on one part where it run very intensive sun lighting effrect. I see this kind of behavior where the light effect getting intense
 
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Is it also possible that I've got an AMD processor with a GTX 970? Rumours are that AMD is never properly made compatible with games? I'm not too sure, I just see people running this game maxed out with ease and with there not being many next generation games out at the moment, testing is hard as games like Assassins Creed Unity and Dying Light are disgustingly made making it hard for anyone to get a proper reading, especially me. I'll try FarCry4 I was getting high-ultra on a 750ti believe it or not, so if that runs smoothly then I know its power hungry games. I'll get back to you.
 
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i don't think it's the GPU. i don't have bf4, but i play advanced warfare 1080p ultra, and every test i've done shows that i never drop below ~88 FPS. that's on multiplayer, where the game's max is 91. i doubt the VRAM is the issue, i have observed usage up to ~3.6 GB, but no frame drops at all. i would suspect that the AMD CPU is the weak point, not the GTX 970
 
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I mean, its definitely playable, but I paid £270 for this GPU in hope that I could just plug it in and run everything at Ultra, a bit optimistic, I know. Definitely getting an Intel next time, FX8320 has caused me nothing but trouble since I've bought it.
 
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http://imgur.com/ohFLdKM That's Advanced Warfare on Ultra at almost 130FPS, I know that it's inside a confined area, but when I get out it's still hitting it, whereas Battlefield on Ultra will give me 40FPS when next to fire and very jittery 50-80 everywhere else. V-sync is off 😛

Tabbed back in after taking that SS to find out that it was then running at 60FPS - http://imgur.com/3FumkEu

The hell is going on here?
 
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again, it's not the gpu. you are playing ultra settings, and the gpu can deliver. the lag and drops you experience are not due to the gpu being insufficient. your money is well spent
 
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I think that VRM's are getting hot but because I have no sensor, I can't tell. Anyone suggest any solutions? I thought of buying the small fans and just gluing it to my VRM but they're pretty loud so I've been told.
 
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might want to try a better cpu cooler before you look elsewhere. pretty sure the 8350 comes at 4.0 GHz so you aren't really gaining much from your overclock. you'll want to get as close to 5.0 GHz as possible, and the direct limiting factor would be insufficient cpu cooling
 
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have you got battlefield 3 to try that? theres a lot of problems with battlefield 4 at the moment, people are having cpu usage spikes where fps will dip every few mins and others are getting lower fps each match they go into until they restart there pc and then it will go back down again, i had to full re-install battlefield 4 and also reinstall my windows 8.1 and now its fine. i also have a 970.

also that motherboard is very poor, its so cheap, maybe an issue.
 
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Sounds stupid, but another thing to check, make sure the "optimized" settings don't have you rendering at at higher resolution and downscaling. It tries to do it and use dsr I always have to manually set it back to 1080p cuz even skyrim will drop to 50fps at the higher resolution
 
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AaronW95 all of this fussing around trying this trying that .......... did you actually do as renz496 told you to and download MSI Afterburner?

That will tell you exactly what's happening, have MSI on while your playing that bit in BF4 (with the fire) playing then quit after that bit is done and go have a look on MSI Afterburner, scroll down the graph results until you come to "Memory usage, MB" and if it has a max of 3500mhz or more you can point to the GPU.

If it has 3300 or less memory usage its nothing to do with the GPU.

 
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Got around 3000Mhz and like I said, CPU temps are at around 50-60 when playing games. I took my PC out from the corner of my desk and was receiving 45-50c but there was still FPS drops in Advanced Warfare and also Battlefield 4, which then leads me again to think that VRM's are getting hot. The VRM on the top (RED circle) doesn't get hot due to my cooler being there and also a fan above and next to it, but the other one (BLUE circle) is hot to the touch.

http://imgur.com/26VqhZS

EDIT: With my GPU also hitting around 70c right under that VRM, it could possibly be heating it?

EDIT2: http://i.imgur.com/ppPNBCR.jpg <-- My temps.
 
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Those readings don't look to abnormal.

The CPU seems fine, when I had an AMD Athlon I had similar temps.

If your GPU is only hitting 3GHZ of VRAM that's not enough to get into the 3.5+ VRAM issue so you seem safe there.

If your playing on Ultra settings it might just be your CPU not being quite powerful enough? I know the FX-8 isn't shabby but its not an Intel so to speak.

Regarding the motherboard you may want to improve your airflow bu tit doesn't seem out of order hot, I only have experience with Asus mobo's.

My board only gets to 29 idle - 35-38c whilst playing games.
 
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Just went on for a while with my case door off but only seemed to gain a few degrees, what I did notice for the first time was that when I first started playing that it was clocking at 3500Mhz BANG ON! So there's no safety breach there, when I tabbed and went back in game, it was clocking at 3000mhz. I honestly believe this is the problem.

http://i.imgur.com/ohFLdKM.jpg - 3500Mhz clock
http://i.imgur.com/3FumkEu.jpg - Exact same scene at 3005Mhz

Please help me to get this clocking at 3500Mhz so I can possible and FINALLY lock this.
 
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Dude ......... when you say 3000mhz are you talking about your CPU or the GPU?

Did you check your Memory usage on MSI Afterburner like I said? you have 3500mhz on your GTX 970, I wanted to know how much VRAM memory your using during that game not your CPU Ghz.

 
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Well, as you can see RAM is running at around 8GB CPU is running at 3500ghz clocking speed and also GPU is running 3500mhz(sometimes) as you can see in the picture, it drops to 3000mhz.
(Check the screenshots in the last post I made, (I'm using MSI afterburner.)
 
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The board is 'just' capable of running an fx 8 core - over clocking an 8320 on it really is pushing it though mate - its a decent quality board but only 4 phase & the vrm's are likely overheating.its a good board for the 6300 but not a 125w chip like the 8320 IMO.
Disable c6 states in bios - leave cool & quiet enabled though.
 
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