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Core 20Mhz higher / Shaders 40Mhz higher based on the rumours like above, but that's still not the full-monty Fermi since it had 750Mhz target clocks and even higher shaders (the 2:1 ratio was after the yield issue, the original target was 1600, more in line with but still below GTX2xx ratios).
 


Hmmm..so the full-on gf104 would be the gtx475 with the original fermi gf100 as the gtx485. Two different chips for the high end for nvdia.... :sol:

I would be more interested on the gts 455....hope it gives the hd5770 a run for its money since it has no competition right now 😀
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/19198/1/
 
There would have to be a significant difference in clock rates between the 460 and the 475 for a 13% difference in the number of processors to span the gap between "less than the 465" and "greater than the 470". Also, it's interesting to note that, if this report is true, the 475 would have less memory than the 470, despite the higher number.
 


The GF104 should have 384 SPs organized as 16 clusters of 24 SPs...

...and according to our sources, there has been some talk about the possible GTX 475 based on fully enabled GF104.
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The GTX 470 has 448 SPs, how can a fully enabled G104 be faster if it only has 384 SPs? I'm confused.
 


What does ATI's drivers have to do with anything? Yeah drivers constantly progress but so will nVidia's. SI will likely allow ATI to compete with the GTX 480. Besides that I don't see the point, the space between the 5770 and the 5870 is so crowded already.
 
Which will compete with the 5770 and 5750 I assume? That is an area where nVidia can't really do that well at, as it is a pretty well established market. All and all the new cards coming out are underwhelming me except for the high end SI and the possible GTX 485. I would love to see ATI pull out a 2000 SP card and nVidia to get the full 512 SP monster out of the gate.
 
I would love to see ATI pull out a 2000 SP card and nVidia to get the full 512 SP monster out of the gate.
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I think this will happen soon. Nv pretty much have to get this card out to retain any credibility, and im sure that ATIs refresh is going to be there to compete when they do. will be very nice to see two new high end single GPU cards. i just hope they dont get priced too high (the 5870 and 480 should be dropped in price, with their replacements at the same or slightly higher price bracket).
 


the nvidia monster would obviously need a pci-e slot made of titanium as the standard ones made of plastic would melt the instant that card's usage reach 90%.
 


Is that accidental or purposeful stupidity?

The full version of the card has already been created and tested long before the fermi release. the cutbacks were made due to die shortages.
Nv had said at launch that they still planned to release the full 512 card at some point.

 

By the time NVIDIA releases a full 512 core card, ATI will already have the 6000 series.
 


which is pretty much what i said two posts ago. I was simply pointing out another stupid fanboy comment. they get on my nerves.
 

I am not an ATI fanboy.I'm saying this because NVIDIA is already very late in announcing their cards.Didn't the NVIDIA CEO state that mainstream Fermi cards will be launched by June?Half of June is over &I'm waiting to see one.
 


its been pushed to july. fud reported..
 

Unless of course it takes more power to get a broken GPU to run, which could explain the size of the PCB on the 5830 being the same as the 5870 not the 5850.
 
Mouse, they are disabled differently, and even still it's more SPUs @ a higher clock speed not lower, so it's not like the 5830 which pumps the clock speed higher than the 5850 to make up for lost shaders, which are not completely disabled unlike in the GTX 470/480,and thus it pull more than the HD5850.

However a full 512 shader GTX485 at higher clocks will produce more under the same process, unless they change the design/process.

The HD5830 is not an example of making a broken GPU work, it's crippling a working GPU, whereas the GTX485 would be finally getting enough working GPUs to launch what they originally promised. If the GTX were an overclocked part it would make sense, but not when it's 50Mhz below target. No the same thing. :pfff:

GTX485 is bound to eat close to 300W unless they improve leakage.
 

Same, even if they do get better yields it's 100% perfect, so i thought they were binned chips recycled into crippled counterparts.
 


I wasn't calling you a fanboy, my comment was directed at wh3res.

Implying that such a card is impossible to make when they have already been made is jsut stupidity.
 
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