GTX480 / GTX470 Reviews and Discussion

[Mousemonkey]

I thought drivers stopped at 257?

They are the 256 series drivers and it's Nvidia, why are you trying to read into or make any sense out of the numbering scheme? [:mousemonkey]

 

[shadow187]

My bad. I was thinking of 19x.xx drivers.

 

[RealityRush]

@RR
If you're making the proportions bigger, every card looks like it's worse compared to the better card. You can't say, "These drivers add XXX FPS" because it just doesn't work like that.

I realize that, but really all I'm trying to get at is that we need to see some benchmarks where the fps's aren't so low and so close, because proportionally, the SOC 5870 looks very unimpressive with the Metro 2033 bench. But as I mentioned, a couple fps variability might not even be the graphics cards fault, it could be a number of things, so a benchmark where the cards get close to a 100fps would be a bit easier to tell where all the cards stand. And I think at that point the spread would open up like I mentioned, maybe not as much, but you'd see the difference in the cards.

Also, I can say the drivers add so many fps because I've used both drivers and checked Using the 256.15 drivers in Metro would've given the 480 a few more fps and openned up the gap more... that being said, TGGA just nicely explained why [H] used said drivers, and I'm not really going to argue their testing methods as I don't really do that professionally

I would also agree though that I don't think a huge OC on the 480 will make it match the 5970, it would kind of be like the SOC 5870 deal; it could get close, but I doubt it would actually match it and definitely not beat it. A 20% performance increase across the board would be quite a bit >.<

not to piss you off, but i dont think a gain about 4 or 7 fps matters much. That gain might translate to 3 -5 % difference which, actually is insignificant.....

Uhh, when you're talking about 30-37fps averages, 4 or 7 fps is a freaking huge difference and is very significant. Otherwise, who cares about the SOC 5870 when it only got ~2 more fps than the stock 5870??

This is again why I said, I'd like to see some higher fps benchies that may not be so deadly on the cards just to see the fps's open up a bit so we can see a solid spread of where each card lies on the spectrum, without having to worry about other varaibles that could be messin with the fps.

I also kind of wish people would test these "high end" cards with a minimum of 4x AA on any benchmark, cause seeing no AA seems a bit ridiculous when most people I know run with at least 2x-4x AA.

And thanks TGGA again for your explaination, you are an invaluable encyclopedia of information sometimes hehe.

 

[Mousemonkey]

My bad. I was thinking of 19x.xx drivers.

They were all over the place in numbering between the beta's and the WHQL's as well, that said the 257.21 WHQL's are available now either direct from Nv or the download site of choice I should imagine.

 

[RealityRush]

Anyone tried using that nVidia System Tools package to OC their GPUs???

I'm curious to see how useful it is:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvidia_system_tools_6.06.html

Works with the 470/480 apparently. I'd be very happy if there was an nVidia created OCing tool with custom fan profiles, and hopefully some more goodies than Afterburner can provide... but I doubt it hehe.

 

[warmon6]

Anyone tried using that nVidia System Tools package to OC their GPUs???

I'm curious to see how useful it is:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvidia_system_tools_6.06.html

Works with the 470/480 only apparently. I'd be very happy if there was an nVidia created OCing tool with custom fan profiles, and hopefully some more goodies than Afterburner can provide... but I doubt it hehe.

SUPPORTED PRODUCTS

GeForce 400 series:
GTX 470, GTX 480

GeForce 200 series:
GTX 285, GTX 295, G210, GTS 250, GTX 280, GT 220, GTX 260, GTX 275

GeForce 9 series:
9300, 9800 GT, 9800 GTX/GTX+, 9500 GT, 9800 GX2, 9600 GT, 9600 GSO, 9200, 9100, 9300 SE, 9400 GT, 9300 GS, 9500 GS, 9600 GSO 512, 9600 GS, 9400, 9300 GE

GeForce 8 series:
8600 GT, 8600 GTS, 8400 GS, 8600 GS, 8300 GS, 8400 SE, 8800 Ultra, 8100 / nForce 720a, 8800 GTS 512, 8200, 8200 / nForce 730a, 8800 GS, 8800 GTS, 8300, 8500 GT, 8800 GT, 8800 GTX, 8400

GeForce 7 series:
7800 GS, 7300 GS, 7650 GS, 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 620i, 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 630i, 7500 LE, 7900 GS, 7950 GX2, 7050 / NVIDIA nForce 630i, 7350 LE, 7900 GTX, 7950 GT, 7800 SLI, 7300 LE, 7150 / NVIDIA nForce 630i, 7300 SE / 7200 GS, 7600 LE, 7050 / NVIDIA nForce 610i, 7600 GS, 7600 GT, 7100 GS, 7800 GTX, 7050 PV / NVIDIA nForce 630a, 7900 GT/GTO, 7300 GT, 7025 / NVIDIA nForce 630a, 7550 LE

GeForce 6 series:
6800, 6200 LE, 6200, 6800 Ultra, 6800 GS/XT, 6600 GT, 6610 XL, 6150 LE, 6800 GS, 6100, 6200 TurboCache, 6800 GT, 6150LE / Quadro NVS 210S, 6150SE nForce 430, 6100 nForce 420, 6700 XL, 6100 nForce 400, 6800 LE, 6100 nForce 405, 6200SE TurboCache, 6150, 6600, 6250, 6800 XT, 6800 XE, 6500, 6600 VE, 6200 A-LE, 6600 LE

GeForce 5 FX series:
FX 5700, FX 5900 Ultra, FX 5200LE, PCX 5900, FX 5800, FX 5700VE, FX 5100, PCX 5300, FX 5700 Ultra, FX 5200 Ultra, FX 5800 Ultra, FX 5900XT, FX 5900ZT, FX 5600XT, FX 5500, FX 5950 Ultra, PCX 5750, FX 5900, FX 5200, FX 5700LE, FX 5600 Ultra, FX 5600

nForce 7 series:
780a SLI, 790i Ultra SLI, 790i SLI, 780i SLI

nForce 6 series:
680i SLI, 680i LT SLI

Quadro NVS series:
NVS 285, NVS 440, NVS 290, NVS 295, NVS 450, NVS 420

Quadro NVS Notebook series:
NVS 120M

ION series:
ION, ION LE

as anyone used it? I have. Although my 6200 card is um ...... how do i want put this , a bit underpowered to really play any games. :lol: So i cant really say if it improved anything.

Yeah, there a automatic overclocking button so overclocking gpu's for non computer tech people is alot easier but the driver i had (i forget which driver i had out of the 19x.xx) corrupted. Haven't tried it sense then.

 

[RealityRush]

as anyone used it? I have. Although my 6200 card is um ...... how do i want put this , a bit underpowered to really play any games. :lol: So i cant really say if it improved anything.

Yeah, there a automatic overclocking button so overclocking gpu's for non computer tech people is alot easier but the driver i had (i forget which driver i had out of the 19x.xx) corrupted. Haven't tried it sense then.

Dammit ye bastard, I noticed I said 'only' like 3 min after I wrote that while looking for lead free solder products and tried to change it before anyone noticed my mistake, I didn't ninja edit in time it seems.

But yeah, I never knew it existed until now and was curious if it was useful, I always used manufacturers programs

 

[Mousemonkey]

I didn't ninja edit in time it seems.

You might want to look into OC'ing your keyboard mate! :lol:

 

[RealityRush]

You might want to look into OC'ing your keyboard mate! :lol:

I need to look into OC'ing my companies shight network connection.

I wish we ran on fibre >.<

 

[Mousemonkey]

I need to look into OC'ing my companies shight network connection.

I wish we ran on fibre >.<

Oh dear, like that is it? :lol:

 

[warmon6]

You might want to look into OC'ing your keyboard mate! :lol:

[:mousemonkey:5]

Nice one.

 

[notty22]

Tiger Direct has a few different gtx 480 models (499.99) for 30.00 dollars off and free shipping. So the magic # is starting to drop ( a little )
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1526106

 

[steddy]

According to expreview, the GTX 460 is coming in the middle of July.

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=BVNav&a=http://www.expreview.com/10804.html

However, there's no telling how reliable this is.

 

[Mousemonkey]

According to expreview, the GTX 460 is coming in the middle of July.

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=BVNav&a=http://www.expreview.com/10804.html

However, there's no telling how reliable this is.

That was mentioned about 40 posts ago! Try to keep up. :lol:

 

[steddy]

That was mentioned about 40 posts ago! Try to keep up. :lol:

Ouch... It's a scary thing when you forget things this easily and at this age...

 

[OvrClkr]

it happens to all of us, heck not everyone wants to read through 40 pages just to get their answer right.

 

[Mousemonkey]

I thought that was mandatory! :lol:

 

[RealityRush]

I thought that was mandatory! :lol:

It is, what is OvrClkr thinking? I say we should ban him to teach the masses an example of what happens when you don't read the whole thread to find your answer.

 

[Mousemonkey]

It is, what is OvrClkr thinking? I say we should ban him to teach the masses an example of what happens when you don't read the whole thread to find your answer.

That won't instil fear like a good old dose of pain and suffering, bring on the Katie Price karaoke recordings I say.

 

[warmon6]

Well, unless i missed something earlier, a german site named Hardware Infos, has some more detail about the GTX 485. (saw it from FAH addict web site)

http://www.hardware-infos.com/news.php?news=3587 (use google translate, working really well on that web page.)

Cant be sure how good the site is but i thought i would pass it along.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Well, unless i missed something earlier, a german site named Hardware Infos, has some more detail about the GTX 485. (saw it from FAH addict web site)

http://www.hardware-infos.com/news.php?news=3587 (use google translate, working really well on that web page.)

Cant be sure how good the site is but i thought i would pass it along.

I think I covered that in the same earlier post with the 460. :lol:

 

[warmon6]

I think I covered that in the same earlier post with the 460. :lol:

Yeah you're right.

looks like i was just to lazy to re-look those few back. :lol:

 

[shadow187]

Mousemonkey;
Dominatrix of all thread-rules.

Kekekekekkekeke.

On an unrelated note, will the will the GTX485 just have higher shaders or will the clocks be higher.

 

[Mousemonkey]

It may be the full monty 512 core part that the GTX480 was supposed to be.

 

[warmon6]

Mousemonkey;
Dominatrix of all thread-rules.

Kekekekekkekeke.

On an unrelated note, will the will the GTX485 just have higher shaders or will the clocks be higher.

From what i read, shader clocks are going to be 20MHz higher and be a full 512 cuda cores.