GTX970 Very poor performance

[Salevi]

Hi guys I need help I am really frustrated I just bought the new GTX 970 and its performing very bad I am getting like 30 to 40 fps in games example Assassins creed 3 Battlefield 4 assassins creed 4 is even worse and on. I tried updating the graphic drivers even download some of the old ones nothing helps same performance. Before GTX 970 I had the 670 and I was able to play most of this games on max settings basically way better performance then 970, please tell me whats going is the card broken or could it be a bottleneck ? but I doubt it because when i monitor my game play GPU usage is on 99% my CPU usage on all cores are around 56% depends on a game
not hitting 100% for sure

here are my specs
Motherboard MSI 970A-G43
CPU AMD FX 6300 OC 4.00Ghz Stable
Ram 8GB 1600Mhz
GPU GTX970
PSU 700w
OP windows 8 64 bit
Hard drive 2tb

Please help me understand whats going on, if you guys need more information let me know I will respond fast.
Thanks!

 

[Winly]

Your CPU is creating a bottleneck for sure.

 

[Salevi]

Your CPU is creating a bottleneck for sure.

Could it be that bad of bottleneck that can cause worse fps then my gtx 670?

 

[Winly]

get a benchmark GPU app and see what results you get.

 

[Salevi]

get a benchmark GPU app and see what results you get.

got it I will test and get back to you

 

[Salevi]

get a benchmark GPU app and see what results you get.

here is the heaven benchmark result http://i.imgur.com/UCv4Oeq.jpg

I am downloading 3dmark as well I post that when its done

 

[Salevi]

Try windows troubleshooting; hardware and sound. See if windows can find any settings wrong, I am assuming you cahanged the drivers but nothing else.Also try re installing a problem game.

Nothing helped there, no problems with that I tried deleting all the nvidia drivers restarting and download it new with a fresh install selected. same thing nothing changed

 

[Winly]

you are getting low fps, seems like its your CPU.

 

[Salevi]

you are getting low fps, seems like its your CPU.

Here is the 3dMark results http://i.imgur.com/KgoJXGT.jpg

I don't know any other gpu tests, if you really think its the cpu problem will the amd fx 8350 take care of the problem?

 

[Winly]

in the last benchmark, how was your CPU, GPU score?

 

[Winly]

The drop in fps was right after you installed that GTX 970? hence, the gtx 970 is a powerful gpu compare to your previous one.
Also, this might help you!
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2305857/gtx-970-fine-6300.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2306884/amd-8320-bottleneck-gtx-970.html

 

[madmatt30]

While the 6300 at 4ghz will limit the 970 a bit it shouldn't be getting less fps than the 670 you had originally - you should be getting a minimum of 20fps more in comparable.
You're definitely sure your overclock is stable?? Were you running the same over clock with your 670??
What model is your 970??
I also have a 6300 (currently at 4.2ghz) & a gtx 970.Ill drop it to 4ghz & do a comparison on heaven benchmark for you.
Its 7am in the UK at the mo & I'm at work until 6pm so its going to be 12 hours or do until I can post the result though.

 

[Salevi]

in the last benchmark, how was your CPU, GPU score?

The only thing that it showed me in the end was the graphic scores

Graphics Score6720
Physics Score6451
Physics Score6451

Reported stock core clock4,025 MHz
Maximum turbo core clock4,024 MHz

 

[Salevi]

While the 6300 at 4ghz will limit the 970 a bit it shouldn't be getting less fps than the 670 you had originally - you should be getting a minimum of 20fps more in comparable.
You're definitely sure your overclock is stable?? Were you running the same over clock with your 670??
What model is your 970??
I also have a 6300 (currently at 4.2ghz) & a gtx 970.Ill drop it to 4ghz & do a comparison on heaven benchmark for you.
Its 7am in the UK at the mo & I'm at work until 6pm so its going to be 12 hours or do until I can post the result though.

Hey man thanks for answering, My 6300 has been overclocked from the day i bought it its been stable since then no problems with my 670. after the 970 the fps is worse then 670 which I don't understand btw I have the EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX 2.0 version, I just posted 2 benchmarks or 3dmark and heaven benchmark.

 

[Salevi]

The drop in fps was right after you installed that GTX 970? hence, the gtx 970 is a powerful gpu compare to your previous one.
Also, this might help you!
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2305857/gtx-970-fine-6300.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2306884/amd-8320-bottleneck-gtx-970.html

I know, I have seen these posts I have done allot of goggling regarding this issue but still cant believe that my cpu is so bad that makes the 970 perform slower then 670 lol I mean common it should be better theb 670 at list like 20 fps with a good cpu then I can get that extra 50 or w/e fps it should give

 

[uplink-svk]

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4660734

In general You're heavily underperforming for GTX 970. How's utilization while running FurMark? And how's utilization, while running BattleField 4?

Please use MSi AfterBurner for these information, and their built in OSD from RivaTuner.

FX-6300 at 4 GHz runs at same performance "core-wise" as FX-8350, which is the same as Core i7 3820, which would definitly not bottleneck Your system, but we need to deduct at least 2 cores of Vishera, which are most likely unutilized by games, that makes it still enough for GTX 970.

So I'm really not on one side with "throttling" theory, though I do not deny it.

Also the fact it worked better on Your old VGA is making me worried.

Any chance You have all 12V rails connected to Your GTX 970? [all "one" 6-8pin, or all "two" 6 pin?]

 

[Salevi]

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4660734

In general You're heavily underperforming for GTX 970. How's utilization while running FurMark? And how's utilization, while running BattleField 4?

Please use MSi AfterBurner for these information, and their built in OSD from RivaTuner.

I did not tested on FurMark, i will right now and get back to you same thing with bf4 let me test I am very familiar with the msi afterburner, I will get back to you with results

 

[smeezekitty]

Your CPU is creating a bottleneck for sure.

Could it be that bad of bottleneck that can cause worse fps then my gtx 670?

A bottleneck should never make you get less performance with a better card.
At worst it would be the same.

My stock but relevant question is how are your CPU and GPU temps under load?

 

[Salevi]

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4660734

In general You're heavily underperforming for GTX 970. How's utilization while running FurMark? And how's utilization, while running BattleField 4?

Please use MSi AfterBurner for these information, and their built in OSD from RivaTuner.

FX-6300 at 4 GHz runs at same performance "core-wise" as FX-8350, which is the same as Core i7 3820, which would definitly not bottleneck Your system, but we need to deduct at least 2 cores of Vishera, which are most likely unutilized by games, that makes it still enough for GTX 970.

So I'm really not on one side with "throttling" theory, though I do not deny it.

Also the fact it worked better on Your old VGA is making me worried.

Any chance You have all 12V rails connected to Your GTX 970? [all "one" 6-8pin, or all "two" 6 pin?]

here are the result for furmark http://www.ozone3d.net/gpudb/score.php?which=54356
I have two 6 pin connectors my psu is more then enough for this card that's for sure

 

[Salevi]

Your CPU is creating a bottleneck for sure.

Could it be that bad of bottleneck that can cause worse fps then my gtx 670?

A bottleneck should never make you get less performance with a better card.
At worst it would be the same.

My stock but relevant question is how are your CPU and GPU temps under load?

both are around 60 62

 

[uplink-svk]

Okay, somethings holding her back "officially". As smeezekitty asked, what are her load temperatures, and load temperatures of Your CPU?

Okay 60-62 are "awesome" for unutilized GPU.

One more very important thing. What is the utilization of GPU, and CPU at FurMark burn-in test? Is it running at 97-99% [GPU]? You can see it on OSD from RivaTuner [MSi AfterBurner]

 

[madmatt30]

I've logged into 3d mark on my mobile mate - while I haven't benched the 970 with 3d mark I do have results on there from my previous card which was a 7870xt

3DMark Score5500
Graphics Score6622
Physics Score6293

The 6300 was at 4ghz on this so the physics (CPU) score is near the same which seems right - your gpu score is incredibly low !! About the same as my old card which is just wrong!!
The 970 should pull around 12500-13500 on the graphics result irregardless of processor.
Feel sure I did a test with the 970 but didn't save results & seem to remember it being close to 10000 & better than 78% of all results.

I'll let you know later mate - your CPU isn't what's at fault here though.

 

[Salevi]

Okay, somethings holding her back "officially". As smeezekitty asked, what are her load temperatures, and load temperatures of Your CPU?

Okay 60-62 are "awesome" for unutilized GPU.

One more very important thing. What is the utilization of GPU, and CPU at FurMark burn-in test? Is it running at 97-99% [GPU]? You can see it on OSD from RivaTuner [MSi AfterBurner]

Listen I just noticed something while testing on bf4 on windowed mode I was getting 80 fps and playing on 80 fps full screened I am getting 35 to 45 max here is a picture and gpu is on full 99%

http://i.imgur.com/Rqs38hX.jpg

 

[Salevi]

I've logged into 3d mark on my mobile mate - while I haven't benched the 970 with 3d mark I do have results on there from my previous card which was a 7870xt

3DMark Score5500
Graphics Score6622
Physics Score6293

The 6300 was at 4ghz on this so the physics (CPU) score is near the same which seems right - your gpu score is incredibly low !! About the same as my old card which is just wrong!!
The 970 should pull around 12500-13500 on the graphics result irregardless of processor.
Feel sure I did a test with the 970 but didn't save results & seem to remember it being close to 10000 & better than 78% of all results.

I'll let you know later mate - your CPU isn't what's at fault here though.

thanks man I had a feeling it wasn't the fault it is not a that old of cpu considering my gtx 670 was paired up well with it

 

[madmatt30]

I remember for a fact that my fps on furmark was 53fps - something incredibly wrong here.
I have a Galax model with 8 pins so it is theoretically a more powerful card but not that much.
Try upping the power limits in MSI to the max - its not going to hurt anything .