Haswell or Ivy bridge?

[iLoveRAM]

Im building a gaming pc.
Im planing to use i7 4771 that is Haswell.
But i was wondering is there any difference in the performance between Hasswell and Ivy bridge?
If there is,should i go with haswell or ivy bridge?

 

[Gaidax]

for the life of me i cant understand why anyone want a locked multiplier in a home environment desktop computer. a non k/x processor is a waste of money period. every processor should be unlocked

Where I live the difference between locked and unlocked I7-4770 was about 90$ including motherboard, I want I7, because I want my CPU to last 4 years and be future proof in accordance with the latest multi-threading trends.

Also if I want my CPU to last those 4 years, overcloking seems to be counter productive. In addition to that, it runs @ 3.7GHz anyway all the time even in prime95 torture tests, so with unlocked chip I would potentially get what? 500-600 Mhz tops at expense of possible CPU life reduction?

You think that is worth 90 bucks?

 

[logainofhades]

for the life of me i cant understand why anyone want a locked multiplier in a home environment desktop computer. a non k/x processor is a waste of money period. every processor should be unlocked

Where I live the difference between locked and unlocked I7-4770 was about 90$ including motherboard, I want I7, because I want my CPU to last 4 years and be future proof in accordance with the latest multi-threading trends.

Also if I want my CPU to last those 4 years, overcloking seems to be counter productive. In addition to that, it runs @ 3.7GHz anyway all the time even in prime95 torture tests, so with unlocked chip I would potentially get what? 500-600 Mhz tops at expense of possible CPU life reduction?

You think that is worth 90 bucks?

You should be able to get 4.0-4.2 on stock voltage with any K series chip. As long as heat is kept in check, life span of the chip should be no different than a CPU running at stock.

 

[Gaidax]

for the life of me i cant understand why anyone want a locked multiplier in a home environment desktop computer. a non k/x processor is a waste of money period. every processor should be unlocked

Where I live the difference between locked and unlocked I7-4770 was about 90$ including motherboard, I want I7, because I want my CPU to last 4 years and be future proof in accordance with the latest multi-threading trends.

Also if I want my CPU to last those 4 years, overcloking seems to be counter productive. In addition to that, it runs @ 3.7GHz anyway all the time even in prime95 torture tests, so with unlocked chip I would potentially get what? 500-600 Mhz tops at expense of possible CPU life reduction?

You think that is worth 90 bucks?

You should be able to get 4.0-4.2 on stock voltage with any K series chip. As long as heat is kept in check, life span of the chip should be no different than a CPU running at stock.

And that's what I'm talking about, getting extra 300-500 Mhz (because trust me, non-K chip is essentially a permanently 3.7GHz clocked) is not worth 90 bucks man and with cheap Z87 board I would not get much further than that really.

 

[logainofhades]

I would still buy a Z87 board even if I didn't intend to overclock unless there were an H87 board out there that supported SLI and CF. I made the mistake of buying a board not suitable for dual card setups before, never again. When I bought my 2x HD 5850 extremes, they were a steal @ $140 a piece. There wasn't a single card of comparable performance for the price at the time. I don't want to be limited in the event I find such a deal again in the future.

 

[nikoli707]

theres a $349 desktop right now on the besbuy website, and it comes with a 18.5" 900p monitor, windows 8, and 1tb hard drive, that right there is $200 minimum period. so for $150 you can get a case, mobo, pwrsply, cpu, ram, optical, keyboard, mouse.... maybe but i would think that is a stretch.

 

[Gaidax]

Heh, I am the black sheep here, I both heavily overclocked (Core2duo 2.4>3.15) and ran SLI/CF (2x8800GTS and my current 6990) and it is what led me to decide the following.

1. No overcloking (my CPU degraded over time)
2. No multi-GPU bull... I had plenty of cases where some awesome game comes out and I find that crossfire does not work or even worse gives negative scaling and you just sit there waiting for AMD to lift their butts and come out with driver/profile/patch to fix it. One of my most favorite games - Saints Row 3 Still does not work with crossfire and gives negative scaling, I have to actually go and disable crossfire to play it smooth.

So lesson learned for me, my next GPU will be the biggest and baddest single GPU out there. I can still game perfectly fine on my 6990 now, it's still good (minus random crossfire bull), so I'll upgrade only with a next generation.

 

[logainofhades]

theres a $349 desktop right now on the besbuy website, and it comes with a 18.5" 900p monitor, windows 8, and 1tb hard drive, that right there is $200 minimum period. so for $150 you can get a case, mobo, pwrsply, cpu, ram, optical, keyboard, mouse.... maybe but i would think that is a stretch.

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