having a lot of issues with my pc. can anyone help??????

[mike340]

so im having a couple of issues.
1. i just transferred my pc rig into a new case, but as soon as i turned it on the cpu fan just went turbo, i downloaded "SpeedFan" and that said the fan was going 4100 rpm, so i used the program to get that speed down but now im nervous that my cpu will cook itself as soon as i do any heavy tasks. are there any programs that monitor the temps and turn the fans up to custom speeds accordingly?
2. i never had any fans plugged into the MOBO itself, except for the cpu fan, but i just tried hooking up a fan to the case and powering with the board, the fan will spin for a few seconds then shut down. i thought it might have been my GPU pushing down on the connector and getting it loose but when i tried without my gpu plugged in it still wouldnt stay on for more than 5 seconds.
im leaving for college in 8 days and really need to get this stuff sorted out asap. thank you so much for your help.
also, what are safe temperatures for my cpu and gpu?
im running an athlon x2 250 and a Gigabyte Windforce 270


UPDATE
CPU-Athlon x2 250
MOBO-Asrock n68c-gs fx
GPU-AMD Gigabyte Windforce 270
PSU-TS XFX 550 non modular
RAM-8GB G. SKILL 1600
some cd/dvd reader
a 500GB SEAGATE Barracuda
and a 250GB samsung 840 EVO

 

[MarkW]

Well, there are millions of hardware combinations possible out there. Telling us exactly what you have would help just a little bit. Brand, model and capacity. Of everything. And what version of Windows too.

 

[smorizio]

post up your mb info so we can help more. on your cpu fan issue some mb like asus have two cpu fan plugs next to each other..a cpu1 and a cpu op pluig. the cpuop plug is a spare plug and the mb will run this like a case fan.. 100 percent all the time..most times these are spare ports for testing or for powering pumps on coolers. the other issue can be if it an intel cpu stock cooler it not locked down on the cpu all the way. check the back of the mb make sure all 4 pins are through the mb and it on tight and does not wobble. if you do have the intel stock cooler with the plastic feet. go to newegg or if your close to a micro center pick up a cooler with metal feet or a backplate. on the case fan issue if you have a msi or other mb in the bios they have temp controlling for the case fans. most of the bios wont have the case fans come on till 45-50c. you can test this or change it with the bios fan profile. set it to performance and set the fans to turn on at a lower temp.

 

[mike340]

Well, there are millions of hardware combinations possible out there. Telling us exactly what you have would help just a little bit. Brand, model and capacity. Of everything. And what version of Windows too.

CPU-Athlon x2 250
MOBO-Asrock n68c-gs fx
GPU-AMD Gigabyte Windforce 270
PSU-TS XFX 550 non modular
RAM-8GB G. SKILL 1600
some cd/dvd reader
a 500GB SEAGATE Barracuda
and a 250GB samsung 840 EVO

 

[mike340]

post up your mb info so we can help more. on your cpu fan issue some mb like asus have two cpu fan plugs next to each other..a cpu1 and a cpu op pluig. the cpuop plug is a spare plug and the mb will run this like a case fan.. 100 percent all the time..most times these are spare ports for testing or for powering pumps on coolers. the other issue can be if it an intel cpu stock cooler it not locked down on the cpu all the way. check the back of the mb make sure all 4 pins are through the mb and it on tight and does not wobble. if you do have the intel stock cooler with the plastic feet. go to newegg or if your close to a micro center pick up a cooler with metal feet or a backplate. on the case fan issue if you have a msi or other mb in the bios they have temp controlling for the case fans. most of the bios wont have the case fans come on till 45-50c. you can test this or change it with the bios fan profile. set it to performance and set the fans to turn on at a lower temp.

updated it will all the info. what i dont get is that i didnt touch the cpu or anything for moving it. just unscrewed the MOBO and tossed it into my new case. i made sure not to screw with the cpu fan or the fan wire

 

[MarkW]

Case fans should always be plugged into a motherboard so that the motherboard can increase the speed of the fans when the temps go up.

Did you use the same power supply in both cases?

All Athlon II x2 CPU max temps are 74c or 75c.

Update! Look what I found...

Hardware Monitor - CPU Temperature Sensing
- Chassis Temperature Sensing
- CPU/Chassis/Power Fan Tachometer
- CPU Quiet Fan
- Voltage Monitoring: +12V, +5V, +3.3V, Vcore

I have a funny feeling a "feature" of the motherboard will turn off the case fans below a certain temp... There are also several "power saver" options in the BIOS. Those might also be shutting down the fans.

 

[mike340]

Case fans should always be plugged into a motherboard so that the motherboard can increase the speed of the fans when the temps go up.

Did you use the same power supply in both cases?

All Athlon II x2 CPU max temps are 74c or 75c.

yep, same PSU. my old case had no side panel and i didnt have any case fans so i just kind of super ghettoed it with a a big 3 foot tall room fan blowing into the case to cool it down.
my CPU is running at 33c right now, but i dont want to burn it out if i started doing a heavy work load, and idoubt i would be able to remember to adjust it and check it frequently to do all this manually in the Speed fan program.

 

[mike340]

Case fans should always be plugged into a motherboard so that the motherboard can increase the speed of the fans when the temps go up.

Did you use the same power supply in both cases?

All Athlon II x2 CPU max temps are 74c or 75c.

Update! Look what I found...

Hardware Monitor - CPU Temperature Sensing
- Chassis Temperature Sensing
- CPU/Chassis/Power Fan Tachometer
- CPU Quiet Fan
- Voltage Monitoring: +12V, +5V, +3.3V, Vcore

I have a funny feeling a "feature" of the motherboard will turn off the case fans below a certain temp... There are also several "power saver" options in the BIOS. Those might also be shutting down the fans.

welp.... i feel like a dumb ass...... that solves that problem.... thanks a ton dude. what about the CPU fan issue?

 

[MarkW]

I'm not sure about that yet. But if you had a power saver BIOS feature set that was affecting other things, lets see what happens with the CPU fan.

 

[mike340]

I'm not sure about that yet. But if you had a power saver BIOS feature set that was affecting other things, lets see what happens with the CPU fan.

i cant get to my bios, my computer boots to fast for me to get into it. it just flashes that bios page for less than a second and i can never get into it.

 

[MarkW]

Look on your motherboard manufacturers webpage for that motherboard. They should have a Boot to UEFI program there that you can run. Then when you restart, it will automatically go into the BIOS.

 

[mike340]

Look on your motherboard manufacturers webpage for that motherboard. They should have a Boot to UEFI program there that you can run. Then when you restart, it will automatically go into the BIOS.

i downloaded the one i could find but its says it doesnt support my platform. are there any programs i can download that will manage my fans? including the cpu fan?

 

[MarkW]

I believe that HWinfo will do that. I have not used it for that, but check it out.

 

[mike340]

I believe that HWinfo will do that. I have not used it for that, but check it out.

okay, doing it right now. ill post an update in a couple minutes when its done. i really cant thank you enough for the help, and im sorry about all the problems im having with it, but im freaking out major because i need to get this thing running perfect before i leave for college in a few days

 

[mike340]

I believe that HWinfo will do that. I have not used it for that, but check it out.

its a good program im going to keep and use but gives me nothing for the fans. i think im going to have to go into the bios but i cant figure out a way to do that because i cant do it on my computer

 

[MarkW]

Ok. SpeedFan says it will control both the CPU fan and the GPU fans.

 

[mike340]

Ok. SpeedFan says it will control both the CPU fan and the GPU fans.

yeah it does, but it doesnt regulate them based on temperature. so i have to keep checking the temps every 5 minutes and adjusting the fan speeds accordingly. plus ive still got no exhaust fan so heat doesnt get pushed out of the case, which is increasing the ambient temp.

 

[MarkW]

Back to the Boot to UEFI thing. Go to this page and download the Drivers & Utilities for your version of Windows. The Boot to UEFI app should be in that package.

Now back to SpeedFan. Straight from their home page:

SpeedFan can access digital temperature sensors and can change fan speeds accordingly, thus reducing noise. SpeedFan works fine with Windows 9x, ME, NT, 2000, 2003, XP, Vista, Windows 7, 2008, Windows 8, Windows 10 and Windows Server 2012. It works with Windows 64 bit too.

It would be really weird to name your app SpeedFan, and not change fan speeds.

 

[mike340]

Back to the Boot to UEFI thing. Go to this page and download the Drivers & Utilities for your version of Windows. The Boot to UEFI app should be in that package.

Now back to SpeedFan. Straight from their home page:

SpeedFan can access digital temperature sensors and can change fan speeds accordingly, thus reducing noise. SpeedFan works fine with Windows 9x, ME, NT, 2000, 2003, XP, Vista, Windows 7, 2008, Windows 8, Windows 10 and Windows Server 2012. It works with Windows 64 bit too.

It would be really weird to name your app SpeedFan, and not change fan speeds.

asrock n68c-gs4 fx i was wrong on my mother board, thats the one i have right there. just a slight difference, i checked out all the drivers for the one i have and i didnt find any for the bios. maybe im just looking in the wrong spot. i like the speedfan thing but it wont increase or decrease my fan speed based on temps. it just holds them where i set it. and it wont even access my exhaust fan which is still only turning on for five seconds when i turn on my pc.
im really sorry about all this trouble mark, im just freaking the hell out and havent got a clue what to do about all this. (this is my first real pc btw so ive got pretty much no clue what im doing at all.)

 

[MarkW]

I installed SpeedFan again... And when I ran it, up pops a Hint...

SpeedFan is an hardware monitoring software that is able to change fan speeds according to system temperatures. SpeedFan can read S.M.A.R.T. values (and temperatures) from your hard disks and change the FSB speed.

You can press F1 anytime to get help.

You need to press F1 and do some reading. It very clearly will do what you want it to do better than any other program I have ever seen. But you do need to configure the temperatures, and then the fan speeds that you want it to use. The help is excellent. Screenshots at every step you would need them.