Help me Please

[slickdotcom]

Hi there, if you're reading this I will like to seek your help and advice. I am from New Zealand, and in need of a new solid PC. I want it took aesthetically appealing, as well as perform most modern games 1440p 60 fps no problem. I will list details down below.

Budget: $3000 NZD
Use for computer?: Gaming (league of legends, battlefield, arma 3, overwatch, future games), Music production (Fl studio & Ableton), Video Editing (Sony Vegas, Adobe After affects, adobe premiere), Coding (HTML, Java, C++) and maybe streaming.

I want my build to have a red/black look, I was thinking RGB but I'm not too confident in picking parts for that. If you can do that for me, that would be great - but if not then all good.

Here's a build I did on PCPartpicker. If you can fix or suggest changes to make, I would greatly appreciate. https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/FWQdcc

Thanks!

 

[rhysiam]

Have you considered switching to a Ryzen 7 1700 CPU and platform? For the use cases you describe, particularly video editing and compiling, the extra cores can make a massive difference. Streaming is looking pretty good on Ryzen too.
The only real criticisms towards Ryzen have been about gaming performance, but given you're running a 60hz display, it's pretty much irrelevant, as Ryzen is absolutely capable of 60fps.

Any particular reason you're spending almost $250 on fans? The case and cooler you've chosen come with 2 each that will do the job just fine. Sure you can probably get better fans, but $250 better? For that price you could go from the 1080 to a 1080ti.

 

[slickdotcom]

Have you considered switching to a Ryzen 7 1700 CPU and platform? For the use cases you describe, particularly video editing and compiling, the extra cores can make a massive difference. Streaming is looking pretty good on Ryzen too.
The only real criticisms towards Ryzen have been about gaming performance, but given you're running a 60hz display, it's pretty much irrelevant, as Ryzen is absolutely capable of 60fps.

Any particular reason you're spending almost $250 on fans? The case and cooler you've chosen come with 2 each that will do the job just fine. Sure you can probably get better fans, but $250 better? For that price you could go from the 1080 to a 1080ti.

Very true about the fans, but I just wanted the LED's aesthetic aspect of it. The theme I was going for was red/black but minilisitc and not over the top, which is why I wanted the LED fans.

Also I was suppose to add that RYZEN bit in to my question haha, just forgot. I was considering it, but is the difference really that huge between FPS. I probably will eventually pick the AMD, but I just want to weigh out the pros and cons first. Thanks for the help brother, really appreciate it.

 

[rhysiam]

Very true about the fans, but I just wanted the LED's aesthetic aspect of it. The theme I was going for was red/black but minilisitc and not over the top, which is why I wanted the LED fans.

I'm a hardware guy, so the idea of getting a 1080 instead of 1080ti because I can get the right colour fans seems absurd to me... but it's your money. If looks matter to you, then go for it!

Also I was suppose to add that RYZEN bit in to my question haha, just forgot. I was considering it, but is the difference really that huge between FPS. I probably will eventually pick the AMD, but I just want to weigh out the pros and cons first. Thanks for the help brother, really appreciate it.

The gaming performance on Ryzen has been blown massively out of proportion IMHO. Part of it is the curiosity aspect, because in productivity tasks core for core and clock for clock, Ryzen is very competitive with Intel CPUs, but a number of games definitely don't run as well on Ryzen CPUs, and the gap is bigger than we'd expect given the relatively small gap on just about all non-gaming workloads.

But, no one is who knows anything is saying that the Ryzen 7s are bad gaming CPU... they're absolutely not. It's just that if all you care about is getting the most FPS you can out of gaming, then the similarly priced 7700K is better... it's a better pure gaming CPU.
BUT, Ryzen 7 is still a very capable gaming CPU, and on top of that, in workloads that make use of all 8 cores (like many video editing and some programming/compiling tasks), it's in an entirely different league to the 7700K, there's just no competition. In those workloads it leaves the 7700K in the dust and to get similar performance on an Intel platform requires the $1000 i7 6900K.

Your description of what you want to do with the PC is, IMHO, perfectly suited to a Ryzen CPU. Read the conclusion to just about any Ryzen 7 CPU review, and you'll see them talking about exactly the sorts of mixed workloads you're looking to run as perfectly in the Ryzen 7 wheelhouse.

 

[slickdotcom]

Very true about the fans, but I just wanted the LED's aesthetic aspect of it. The theme I was going for was red/black but minilisitc and not over the top, which is why I wanted the LED fans.

I'm a hardware guy, so the idea of getting a 1080 instead of 1080ti because I can get the right colour fans seems absurd to me... but it's your money. If looks matter to you, then go for it!

Also I was suppose to add that RYZEN bit in to my question haha, just forgot. I was considering it, but is the difference really that huge between FPS. I probably will eventually pick the AMD, but I just want to weigh out the pros and cons first. Thanks for the help brother, really appreciate it.

The gaming performance on Ryzen has been blown massively out of proportion IMHO. Part of it is the curiosity aspect, because in productivity tasks core for core and clock for clock, Ryzen is very competitive with Intel CPUs, but a number of games definitely don't run as well on Ryzen CPUs, and the gap is bigger than we'd expect given the relatively small gap on just about all non-gaming workloads.

But, no one is who knows anything is saying that the Ryzen 7s are bad gaming CPU... they're absolutely not. It's just that if all you care about is getting the most FPS you can out of gaming, then the similarly priced 7700K is better... it's a better pure gaming CPU.
BUT, Ryzen 7 is still a very capable gaming CPU, and on top of that, in workloads that make use of all 8 cores (like many video editing and some programming/compiling tasks), it's in an entirely different league to the 7700K, there's just no competition. In those workloads it leaves the 7700K in the dust and to get similar performance on an Intel platform requires the $1000 i7 6900K.

Your description of what you want to do with the PC is, IMHO, perfectly suited to a Ryzen CPU. Read the conclusion to just about any Ryzen 7 CPU review, and you'll see them talking about exactly the sorts of mixed workloads you're looking to run as perfectly in the Ryzen 7 wheelhouse.

Thanks for the advice man.

Altered Build: https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/RFFZD8

What do you think about that build in comparison to the old one?

 

[rhysiam]

Thanks for the advice man.

Altered Build: https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/RFFZD8

What do you think about that build in comparison to the old one?

Well that's just a much better PC all round.
1080ti will crush the old 1080.
Ryzen 7 won't game quite as well, potentially, but will be a much better workhorse for your CPU intensive tasks. It shouldn't ever really stop you getting the 60fps your monitor wants anyway.

One suggestion: Get an aftermarket 1080ti instead of the hot/loud founders edition: https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/2TgPxr/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-gaming-oc-11g-video-card-gv-n108tgaming-oc-11gd

I was also going to suggest dropping to a 650W PSU, but looking at the NZ PCPartpicker list, I can see why you haven't gone there. There's no good 650W options, and that 750W unit you've chosen for the second build is top notch. So I'd stick with it if I were you.

Once it arrives, it's worth updating the BIOS and then spending some time finding the highest stable RAM speed you can. You might not get 3200 stable, but follow some guides and get it as high as you can. Ryzen games quite a bit better with faster RAM.

Good luck.

 

[slickdotcom]

Well that's just a much better PC all round.
1080ti will crush the old 1080.
Ryzen 7 won't game quite as well, potentially, but will be a much better workhorse for your CPU intensive tasks. It shouldn't ever really stop you getting the 60fps your monitor wants anyway.

One suggestion: Get an aftermarket 1080ti instead of the hot/loud founders edition: https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/2TgPxr/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-gaming-oc-11g-video-card-gv-n108tgaming-oc-11gd

I was also going to suggest dropping to a 650W PSU, but looking at the NZ PCPartpicker list, I can see why you haven't gone there. There's no good 650W options, and that 750W unit you've chosen for the second build is top notch. So I'd stick with it if I were you.

Once it arrives, it's worth updating the BIOS and then spending some time finding the highest stable RAM speed you can. You might not get 3200 stable, but follow some guides and get it as high as you can. Ryzen games quite a bit better with faster RAM.

Good luck

Thanks alot dude.