Question Help regarding gaming pc build from scratch

[FamilyFriendly101]

So I want to build my friend a gaming pc meant for a smooth 1080p max settings experience ,we've come to choose these components and I'm looking to check if they are compatible for each other , I think they are but I really want to make sure . And I am also going to help him build it from scratch ourselves when the components arrive .
Can you please give some tips and warnings related to pc building?
Edit: I replaced the 1stick of 16gb with 2 of 8 for the dual channeling
Country: Romania
Prefered site : pcgarage.ro
Budget : around the 800-900 dollars range

 

[Lutfij]

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One thing that stands out from your build to me, is that case doesn't have good airflow, unless you want to cook your hardware, you should change that.

 

[hotaru.hino]

Is the RAM 1 or 2 sticks? If it's 1 stick, get a 2x8GB combination, as that will help with performance.

As far as building it goes, there isn't any specific order to install parts in, but I think you should at least do these first:

• Prepare the case for what you'll need
• Install the PSU and figure out how you want to route the cables

 

[FamilyFriendly101]

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One thing that stands out from your build to me, is that case doesn't have good airflow, unless you want to cook your hardware, you should change that.

thanks for the heads up,knowing the name of the site is pcgarage.ro , can you suggest a case in the similar price range around 200-250 ron?

 

[Zerk2012]

As above a 2 stick set of memory.

For the regular HDD I would just leave that off and get a 2TB SSD

If the case comes with LED or RGB the motherboard has no place to connect it.

 

[35below0]

thanks for the heads up,knowing the name of the site is pcgarage.ro , can you suggest a case in the similar price range around 200-250 ron?

This is decent in that price range: In that price range: https://www.pcgarage.ro/carcase/deepcool/cc360-argb/

That motherboard is not worth your time. You need to spend twice as much.
https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/VyBhP6/gigabyte-b550m-ds3h-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-ds3h
(Phantom Gaming 4 is a better board but it needs a CPU to update BIOS)

All in all, this is a lot of money for a bad PC. I would save up more money. A $1000 for something this poor is a waste of your money. And it's a lot of money.


Here is what you could get if you spent more (6,761.37 leu):
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor (791.98RON @ PC Garage)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 PG Riptide ATX AM4 Motherboard (652.64RON @ PC Garage)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (381.97RON @ PC Garage)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (656.98RON @ PC Garage)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card (3156.98RON @ PC Garage)
Case: NZXT H5 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case (518.96RON @ PC Garage)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 V2 FULL MODULAR 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (601.86RON @ PC Garage)
Total: 6761.37RON
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-18 20:46 EEST+0300

This is a good machine, but closer to 1440p than 1080p. If it is just too expensive, change the 7900GRE (a 1440p GPU) for a 4060. It is half the price and half the performance but it is a good 1080p GPU.

This PC costs 5,049.81 lev
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor (791.98RON @ PC Garage)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 PG Riptide ATX AM4 Motherboard (652.64RON @ PC Garage)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (381.97RON @ PC Garage)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (656.98RON @ PC Garage)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card (1736.98RON @ PC Garage)
Case: NZXT H5 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case (518.96RON @ PC Garage)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (310.30RON @ PC Garage)
Total: 5049.81RON
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-18 20:56 EEST+0300

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (606.98RON @ PC Garage)
CPU Cooler: *ENDORFY Spartan 5 ARGB CPU Cooler (118.54RON @ PC Garage)
Motherboard: *Asus PRIME B660-PLUS D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (666.98RON @ PC Garage)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (381.97RON @ PC Garage)
Storage: *Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (336.98RON @ PC Garage)
Video Card: *PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card (1106.98RON @ PC Garage)
Case: *Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case (270.17RON @ PC Garage)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (461.98RON @ PC Garage)
Total: 3950.58RON
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-18 22:03 EEST+0300

 

[35below0]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (606.98RON @ PC Garage)
CPU Cooler: *ENDORFY Spartan 5 ARGB CPU Cooler (118.54RON @ PC Garage)
Motherboard: *Asus PRIME B660-PLUS D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (666.98RON @ PC Garage)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (381.97RON @ PC Garage)
Storage: *Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (336.98RON @ PC Garage)
Video Card: *PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card (1106.98RON @ PC Garage)
Case: *Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case (270.17RON @ PC Garage)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (461.98RON @ PC Garage)
Total: 3950.58RON
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-18 22:03 EEST+0300

Do you think there's much point in cooling a 12400F with an aftermarket cooler? The intel stock one is going to do the job. At worst it gets a little buzzy but for the price, it's fine.

Not sure i agree with you on the Corsair. The RMe is a good model but pricy - https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product...-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-na

If i wanted a cheaper PSU, i'd rather have one of the MSi MAG A-BN models.
The Corsair RM is neither good nor cheap. It's ok, not bad but i think the MSis are just as good except the Gold rating.

Otherwise it's a nice intel build. A little on the cheap side, but that was the point i think.

 

[Why_Me]

Do you think there's much point in cooling a 12400F with an aftermarket cooler? The intel stock one is going to do the job. At worst it gets a little buzzy but for the price, it's fine.

Not sure i agree with you on the Corsair. The RMe is a good model but pricy - https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product...-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-na

If i wanted a cheaper PSU, i'd rather have one of the MSi MAG A-BN models.
The Corsair RM is neither good nor cheap. It's ok, not bad but i think the MSis are just as good except the Gold rating.

Otherwise it's a nice intel build. A little on the cheap side, but that was the point i think.

It makes a lot more sense than recommending a 5600G.

 

[35below0]

It makes a lot more sense than recommending a 5600G.

You didn't answer the question.

The 5600G wasn't recomended, it was pre-selected by the OP. I rolled with their AM4 platform.
But since you brought it up, the 5600G ties or beats the 12400F.
I also hesitate to recommend F-type intels because not having an iGPU to fall back on can be disastrous, and i was complaining about the risks and worthlessnes of cheap components.

I have a 12100 /w stock cooler and if i'm honest, i'd rather stick an Assassin X on it, just to keep it more quiet. But if i could not or did not want to afford such luxuries, i'd use the cooler that comes with the CPU.
It's a little buzzy at times. The 12100 is a boost-happy CPU, and it's surprisingly fast for it's price.

So from experience, i'm 50/50 on the question of whether to waste the cooler that comes bundled with the locked intels, or to install a good aftermarket alternative. Pros and cons to both.
That's why i asked for your thoughts.


Swapping things around for an intel build, i come up with this:
- roughly same price as the AMD version
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (812.23RON @ PC Garage)
Motherboard: ASRock B760 Pro RS/D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (666.98RON @ PC Garage)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (381.97RON @ PC Garage)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (656.98RON @ PC Garage)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card (1736.98RON @ PC Garage)
Case: NZXT H5 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case (518.96RON @ PC Garage)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (310.30RON @ PC Garage)
Total: 5084.40RON
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-19 00:32 EEST+0300

Alternate case: https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/bCYQzy/corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011200-ww

 

[Why_Me]

You didn't answer the question.

The 5600G wasn't recomended, it was pre-selected by the OP. I rolled with their AM4 platform.
But since you brought it up, the 5600G ties or beats the 12400F.
I also hesitate to recommend F-type intels because not having an iGPU to fall back on can be disastrous, and i was complaining about the risks and worthlessnes of cheap components.

I have a 12100 /w stock cooler and if i'm honest, i'd rather stick an Assassin X on it, just to keep it more quiet. But if i could not or did not want to afford such luxuries, i'd use the cooler that comes with the CPU.
It's a little buzzy at times. The 12100 is a boost-happy CPU, and it's surprisingly fast for it's price.

So from experience, i'm 50/50 on the question of whether to waste the cooler that comes bundled with the locked intels, or to install a good aftermarket alternative. Pros and cons to both.
That's why i asked for your thoughts.


Swapping things around for an intel build, i come up with this:
- roughly same price as the AMD version
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (812.23RON @ PC Garage)
Motherboard: ASRock B760 Pro RS/D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (666.98RON @ PC Garage)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (381.97RON @ PC Garage)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (656.98RON @ PC Garage)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card (1736.98RON @ PC Garage)
Case: NZXT H5 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case (518.96RON @ PC Garage)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (310.30RON @ PC Garage)
Total: 5084.40RON
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-19 00:32 EEST+0300

Alternate case: https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/bCYQzy/corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011200-ww

Go for the 12400F when on a tight budget like the OP. As far as the cpu cooler goes, those Endorfy coolers are the Thermalrights of eastern Europe. They're cheap and they do the job.

 

[artk2219]

You didn't answer the question.

The 5600G wasn't recomended, it was pre-selected by the OP. I rolled with their AM4 platform.
But since you brought it up, the 5600G ties or beats the 12400F.
I also hesitate to recommend F-type intels because not having an iGPU to fall back on can be disastrous, and i was complaining about the risks and worthlessnes of cheap components.

I have a 12100 /w stock cooler and if i'm honest, i'd rather stick an Assassin X on it, just to keep it more quiet. But if i could not or did not want to afford such luxuries, i'd use the cooler that comes with the CPU.
It's a little buzzy at times. The 12100 is a boost-happy CPU, and it's surprisingly fast for it's price.

So from experience, i'm 50/50 on the question of whether to waste the cooler that comes bundled with the locked intels, or to install a good aftermarket alternative. Pros and cons to both.
That's why i asked for your thoughts.


Swapping things around for an intel build, i come up with this:
- roughly same price as the AMD version
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (812.23RON @ PC Garage)
Motherboard: ASRock B760 Pro RS/D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (666.98RON @ PC Garage)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (381.97RON @ PC Garage)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (656.98RON @ PC Garage)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card (1736.98RON @ PC Garage)
Case: NZXT H5 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case (518.96RON @ PC Garage)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (310.30RON @ PC Garage)
Total: 5084.40RON
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-19 00:32 EEST+0300

Alternate case: https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/bCYQzy/corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011200-ww

The 5600X ties or beats the 12400F, the 5600G is slower, but i mean its 15% or so, not like the end of the world there. Honestly if we're going for longevity we should be looking at AM5 regardless, as both AM4 and LGA 1700 are EOL.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i5-12400-review

 

[35below0]

The 5600X ties or beats the 12400F, the 5600G is slower, but i mean its 15% or so, not like the end of the world there. Honestly if we're going for longevity we should be looking at AM5 regardless, as both AM4 and LGA 1700 are EOL.

Budget wont stretch that far, and the target is 1080p max settings. AM5 can do that and has upgrageability but it's an expensive way to hit 1080p max.

Also, i see the 5600G has a slightly faster clock, and it's unlocked for whatever that's worth. So i call it a push. And since both AM4 and Alder builds are fairly cheap, it's really down to ... a toss of a coin really

 

[artk2219]

Budget wont stretch that far, and the target is 1080p max settings. AM5 can do that and has upgrageability but it's an expensive way to hit 1080p max.

Also, i see the 5600G has a slightly faster clock, and it's unlocked for whatever that's worth. So i call it a push. And since both AM4 and Alder builds are fairly cheap, it's really down to ... a toss of a coin really

Fair enough, we're not talking about massive differences here between the two, especially with the chips targeted. Sure if we start looking at the 13900, 14700, and above, LGA 1700 pulls ahead, but for this price point either should be fine. LGA 1700 does give you more high end options for the future, provided you get a decent motherboard, but honestly I would go by pricing.

 

[FamilyFriendly101]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (606.98RON @ PC Garage)
CPU Cooler: *ENDORFY Spartan 5 ARGB CPU Cooler (118.54RON @ PC Garage)
Motherboard: *Asus PRIME B660-PLUS D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (666.98RON @ PC Garage)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (381.97RON @ PC Garage)
Storage: *Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (336.98RON @ PC Garage)
Video Card: *PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card (1106.98RON @ PC Garage)
Case: *Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case (270.17RON @ PC Garage)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (461.98RON @ PC Garage)
Total: 3950.58RON
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-18 22:03 EEST+0300

can you specify the reason for the change in the cpu n mobo? I personally owned an r5 3600 for a while now and it manages to get 60fps on max settings in the modern games I play.Also this seems to be an amazing recomandation otherwise.

 

[Why_Me]

can you specify the reason for the change in the cpu n mobo? I personally owned an r5 3600 for a while now and it manages to get 60fps on max settings in the modern games I play.Also this seems to be an amazing recomandation otherwise.

 

[artk2219]

can you specify the reason for the change in the cpu n mobo? I personally owned an r5 3600 for a while now and it manages to get 60fps on max settings in the modern games I play.Also this seems to be an amazing recomandation otherwise.

Its mainly because AM4 is a dated platform at this point, it was originally released in 2016 and it has received many updates since then, but at the end of the day the underlying architecture is 8 years old. That being said LGA 1700 isn't some immensely superior platform either, it does give you some more options at the high end for a future upgrade like a 14700 or 14900, but in the middle ground where we are, eh. It might age better though given that you can get more cores in the socket. Ideally you would save up a bit more and get an AM5 setup, and have a supported platform for years. Basically, AM4 is old, and not receiving any more meaningful updates, LGA 1700 is not as old, and you have more future potential, just not as high as AM5. If you do go with AM4, i recommend trying to pickup a Ryzen 5 5600 or 5600X if possible as you do get a nice bump in performance out of the box over the 5600G.