Question Help with the components

[Jorge Vaz]

Hello, Im building a pc and would like to know if the Motherboard and PSU I am looking at are the right choice and if you would recommend me get any other instead in terms of cost benefit also for the motherboard im looking to spend £50-£79 and for the PSU £50-£60 the current components of my build which I already have are: GPU (1660ti) CPU (10400f) RAM (8x2 3600mhz corsair) SSD (256GB) HDD (1TB) I just found out recently that the 10400f has a limiter of 2666mhz but when bought the RAM didnt know about it.

The motherboards I have been looking at are the following:
H510 (link) £69
MSI B460-A Pro £69
MSI MAG B460 Bazooka £72
B560M £74

PSU
Corsair TX550 W 80+ Gold: £52

 

[cdrkf]

Hello, Im building a pc and would like to know if the Motherboard and PSU I am looking at are the right choice and if you would recommend me get any other instead in terms of cost benefit also for the motherboard im looking to spend £50-£79 and for the PSU £50-£60 the current components of my build which I already have are: GPU (1660ti) CPU (10400f) RAM (8x2 3600mhz corsair) SSD (256GB) HDD (1TB) I just found out recently that the 10400f has a limiter of 2666mhz but when bought the RAM didnt know about it.

The motherboards I have been looking at are the following:
H510 (link) £69
MSI B460-A Pro £69
MSI MAG B460 Bazooka £72
B560M £74

PSU
Corsair TX550 W 80+ Gold: £52

With regards to the RAM speed - you can run that cpu with the ram at full speed if you pair it with an Z series motherboard. You are correct that you cannot run over the rated speed on a B series board however.


PSU looks good, having a look there isn't much in the way of reviews comparing B460 boards, I think for a 10400f you aren't going to run into problems with any of them so it really comes down to what features you need.

 

[Jorge Vaz]

With regards to the RAM speed - you can run that cpu with the ram at full speed if you pair it with an Z series motherboard. You are correct that you cannot run over the rated speed on a B series board however.


PSU looks good, having a look there isn't much in the way of reviews comparing B460 boards, I think for a 10400f you aren't going to run into problems with any of them so it really comes down to what features you need.

Would be great to be able to use the full speed of the ram but might be saying rubbish but is not possible to find a motherboard of Z series between the budget I mentioned of £50-£79 but apart from that Im not really looking at any specific features

 

[cdrkf]

Would be great to be able to use the full speed of the ram but might be saying rubbish but is not possible to find a motherboard of Z series between the budget I mentioned of £50-£79 but apart from that Im not really looking at any specific features

There is probably not much point in paying the extra for a Z series board with a 10400f, the performance difference isn't much (ram speed matters much more with AMD Ryzen processors, Intel parts don't gain as much typically). A 10400f + 1660ti is a well balanced combo imo.

 

[logainofhades]

If you go with a b560 board, you can run faster ram speeds. It is up to the mobo manufacturer to enable it. You do not want to go so cheap that the VRM's are going to thermal throttle, costing you performance. This board is more than you wanted to spend, but is advertised at running faster ram, with a 10th gen chip.

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B560M Pro4/index.asp#Specification

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: ASRock B560M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard (£98.38 @ Technextday)
Total: £98.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-11-17 14:28 GMT+0000

That PSU is a good choice.

 

[logainofhades]

There is probably not much point in paying the extra for a Z series board with a 10400f, the performance difference isn't much (ram speed matters much more with AMD Ryzen processors, Intel parts don't gain as much typically). A 10400f + 1660ti is a well balanced combo imo.

This isn't totally correct. With 2666 ram, a 10400/f loses to an R3 3300x, with 3200mhz ram, in gaming.

 

[cdrkf]

This isn't totally correct. With 2666 ram, a 10400/f loses to an R3 3300x, with 3200mhz ram, in gaming.

When paired with what GPU though...? Most of the test showing these kind of differences are 'CPU gaming' tests - which usually means top tier GPU i.e. 3090 or 6900 XT coupled with 1080p res and low settings to shift the load onto the CPU. With a 1660ti, running at 1080p high / ultra settings it's unlikely to make a difference.

I guess it also comes down to what games Jorge Vaz intends to play, things like CS:GO might actually be played at settings low enough for there to be a difference.

If you go with a b560 board, you can run faster ram speeds. It is up to the mobo manufacturer to enable it. You do not want to go so cheap that the VRM's are going to thermal throttle, costing you performance. This board is more than you wanted to spend, but is advertised at running faster ram, with a 10th gen chip.

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B560M Pro4/index.asp#Specification

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: ASRock B560M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard (£98.38 @ Technextday)
Total: £98.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-11-17 14:28 GMT+0000

That PSU is a good choice.

That looks like quite a nice option actually, personally I would pay the extra just for the fact it provides room for future upgrades.

 

[logainofhades]

That looks like quite a nice option actually, personally I would pay the extra just for the fact it provides room for future upgrades.

That is why you want a board that can get the most performance out of the CPU, from the get go. Many systems see 1 or 2 GPU upgrades, before the CPU gets replaced. Buying good enough, for now, just costs you more money later on.

 

[Jorge Vaz]

That is why you want a board that can get the most performance out of the CPU, from the get go. Many systems see 1 or 2 GPU upgrades, before the CPU gets replaced. Buying good enough, for now, just costs you more money later on.

With the board you just sent how do you enable it to be able to use more speed also doesnt the 10400f only use 2666mhz anyways ? So how can that make a difference, sorry if this sounds dumb im really new into this stuff, and related to the games I play tbh is a bit of everything going from league of legends which is a very low demand game to New World which is already more demanding

 

[logainofhades]

You have to enable XMP, in the bios, which you would also have to do, on a Z490/Z590 board.

 

[Jorge Vaz]

You have to enable XMP, in the bios, which you would also have to do, on a Z490/Z590 board.

Is that very hard to do ? Taking consideration that Im someone that has never done any of that and totally a beginner in terms of using BIOS system's

 

[Why_Me]

Hello, Im building a pc and would like to know if the Motherboard and PSU I am looking at are the right choice and if you would recommend me get any other instead in terms of cost benefit also for the motherboard im looking to spend £50-£79 and for the PSU £50-£60 the current components of my build which I already have are: GPU (1660ti) CPU (10400f) RAM (8x2 3600mhz corsair) SSD (256GB) HDD (1TB) I just found out recently that the 10400f has a limiter of 2666mhz but when bought the RAM didnt know about it.

The motherboards I have been looking at are the following:
H510 (link) £69
MSI B460-A Pro £69
MSI MAG B460 Bazooka £72
B560M £74

PSU
Corsair TX550 W 80+ Gold: £52

You want a B560 board paired with 2x8GB of 3200mhz RAM for that cpu.

 

[logainofhades]

Is that very hard to do ? Taking consideration that Im someone that has never done any of that and totally a beginner in terms of using BIOS system's

It is literally just a click to enable feature. Your motherboard manual should explain where the setting is, and how to enable.

 

[Why_Me]

With regards to the RAM speed - you can run that cpu with the ram at full speed if you pair it with an Z series motherboard. You are correct that you cannot run over the rated speed on a B series board however.


PSU looks good, having a look there isn't much in the way of reviews comparing B460 boards, I think for a 10400f you aren't going to run into problems with any of them so it really comes down to what features you need.

That is incorrect information. You can run that cpu with 3200mhz RAM at the rated speed with a B560 board.

 

[Jorge Vaz]

You want a B560 board paired with 2x8GB of 3200mhz RAM for that cpu.

I got 3600mhz instead that will not affect anything in terms of compatiblity right ? The only thing is gonna happen is that it will run at 3200mhz instesd of 3600mhz right ?

 

[Jorge Vaz]

It is literally just a click to enable feature. Your motherboard manual should explain where the setting is, and how to enable.

Also whats the difference between the B560 HDV and the B560 Pro4 because I saw the 560 HDV can also have more than 3600 mhz

 

[logainofhades]

That is incorrect information. You can run that cpu with 3200mhz RAM at the rated speed with a B560 board.

Not all B560 apparently support it though. For instance: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B560M-AORUS-PRO-rev-10/sp#sp

1. 11th Generation Intel® Core™ i9/i7/i5 processors:
   Support for DDR4 5333(O.C.)/ DDR4 5133(O.C.)/DDR4 5000(O.C.)/4933(O.C.)/4800(O.C.)/ 4700(O.C.)/ 4600(O.C.)/ 4500(O.C.)/ 4400(O.C.)/ 4300(O.C.)/4266(O.C.) / 4133(O.C.) / 4000(O.C.) / 3866(O.C.) / 3800(O.C.) / 3733(O.C.) / 3666(O.C.) / 3600(O.C.) / 3466(O.C.) / 3400(O.C.) / 3333(O.C.) / 3300(O.C.) / 3200 / 3000 / 2933 / 2800 / 2666 / 2400 / 2133 MHz memory modules
2. 10th Generation Intel® Core™ i9/i7 processors:
   Support for DDR4 2933/2666/2400/2133 MHz memory modules
3. 10th Generation Intel® Core™ i5/i3 /Pentium®/Celeron® processors:
   Support for DDR4 2666/2400/2133 MHz memory modules

 

[Why_Me]

I got 3600mhz instead that will not affect anything in terms of compatiblity right ? The only thing is gonna happen is that it will run at 3200mhz instesd of 3600mhz right ?

You should be able to run that memory at its rated speed.

 

[logainofhades]

Also whats the difference between the B560 HDV and the B560 Pro4 because I saw the 560 HDV can also have more than 3600 mhz

The HDV is a terrible board. Poor power delivery, with no cooling. Avoid it completely.

 

[Why_Me]

Also whats the difference between the B560 HDV and the B560 Pro4 because I saw the 560 HDV can also have more than 3600 mhz

The B560 HDV has horrible VRM's and no heatsink.

 

[Why_Me]

Not all B560 apparently support it though. For instance: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B560M-AORUS-PRO-rev-10/sp#sp

1. 11th Generation Intel® Core™ i9/i7/i5 processors:
   Support for DDR4 5333(O.C.)/ DDR4 5133(O.C.)/DDR4 5000(O.C.)/4933(O.C.)/4800(O.C.)/ 4700(O.C.)/ 4600(O.C.)/ 4500(O.C.)/ 4400(O.C.)/ 4300(O.C.)/4266(O.C.) / 4133(O.C.) / 4000(O.C.) / 3866(O.C.) / 3800(O.C.) / 3733(O.C.) / 3666(O.C.) / 3600(O.C.) / 3466(O.C.) / 3400(O.C.) / 3333(O.C.) / 3300(O.C.) / 3200 / 3000 / 2933 / 2800 / 2666 / 2400 / 2133 MHz memory modules
2. 10th Generation Intel® Core™ i9/i7 processors:
   Support for DDR4 2933/2666/2400/2133 MHz memory modules
3. 10th Generation Intel® Core™ i5/i3 /Pentium®/Celeron® processors:
   Support for DDR4 2666/2400/2133 MHz memory modules

It says that on a lot of B560 board specs including the Asus Prime B560 boards yet people aren't having a problem getting their rated memory speed with 3200mhz RAM.

 

[Jorge Vaz]

So just making sure the best option would be definitely the B560 Pro4 as I will be able to use 3200 out of the 3600mhz of my RAM right even with a i5 10400f

 

[Jorge Vaz]

The HDV is a terrible board. Poor power delivery, with no cooling. Avoid it completely.

Also all the pc shops near me want me to spend £50 for them build the computer and Im like hell no but at the same time I never have built one by myself so what would be the most reasonable choice

 

[Zerk2012]

Also all the pc shops near me want me to spend £50 for them build the computer and Im like hell no but at the same time I never have built one by myself so what would be the most reasonable choice

50 bucks to build it, load windows, and drivers is not a bad price. Also if something if DOA they have to take care of it.

Youtube has tons of videos for building a PC.

2 things I would consider would be a case with better airflow it should be fine with the parts your using but if you make a big upgrade for a video card in the future.
I would check the price of the 650 and 750 watt version of the power supply also for the same reason.

 

[Jorge Vaz]

50 bucks to build it, load windows, and drivers is not a bad price. Also if something if DOA they have to take care of it.

Youtube has tons of videos for building a PC.

2 things I would consider would be a case with better airflow it should be fine with the parts your using but if you make a big upgrade for a video card in the future.
I would check the price of the 650 and 750 watt version of the power supply also for the same reason.

Im taking components from another pc which already had an SSD with windows installed so in terms of load windows and drives I dont think they would have to do much