[SOLVED] High end pc graphic problems

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First time here since its the only place ive seen with pc problems people who can help me. hi. Ive had a problem with my pc within the last 4 months, i do now know what the problem is on the console but i do know what it does. Whenever i play a game with high end graphics me pc will freeze and i have to restart it. i can play some new games like Apex legends in windowed mode and for the most part no crashes. all my drivers and updated weekly and pc update daily. i run most games in low settings and windowed now, its fine but i would like to know what the problem is so i don't have to sit so close to my monitor. any suggestions? i would show a pic of my pc sceps but i dont know how to pin an image on here...
 
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The G43, G45, and Krait use a 4+1 VRM setup(4 VRMs for the cpu and 1 for the ram). The 970 gaming uses a 6+2 VRM setup.

With the 4 phase setups the VRMs run hot this can cause VRM throttling and/or cpu instability and overtime the VRMs will fail due tot he heat. The G43 has no VRM cooling making the problem worse, the G45 has a small albeit inadequate VRM cooler. The Krait has a larger cooler but this usually just delays the inevitable.

The fact I have to explain this rather well known issue to a "CPUs expert" saddens me.

The fact the system is not as high end as they thought it was does not solve the problems they are having with the system and the more information we can get(which includes the exact make and model of the...

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The G43, G45, and Krait use a 4+1 VRM setup(4 VRMs for the cpu and 1 for the ram). The 970 gaming uses a 6+2 VRM setup.

With the 4 phase setups the VRMs run hot this can cause VRM throttling and/or cpu instability and overtime the VRMs will fail due tot he heat. The G43 has no VRM cooling making the problem worse, the G45 has a small albeit inadequate VRM cooler. The Krait has a larger cooler but this usually just delays the inevitable.

The fact I have to explain this rather well known issue to a "CPUs expert" saddens me.

The fact the system is not as high end as they thought it was does not solve the problems they are having with the system and the more information we can get(which includes the exact make and model of the motherboard) the easier it will be to troubleshoot the problem.
 
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Please point out which one is the 4+1? Because all 5 pictures of all 5 models show an 8 pin connector is required, not a 4+1.


VRM - Voltage Regulation Module. It is a part of the motherboard that helps to regulate and provide proper voltage to the CPU itself. Typically the more VRMs the better a CPU will perform at stock but also for an overclock.

Cheaper boards tend to have lower VRM Phase, may go without cooling or may just use inferior components which will affect system performance. This is especially prevalent in the FX series as those CPUs had a very high power draw. When they first launched plenty of people bought cheap AM3+ boards and the top end CPU (The FX 8150) and had issues with the CPU maintaining its stock speeds, let alone overclocking at all, and overall system stability.

This is why most overclocking boards of a good grade use high quality VRM components and cool them as well. My motherboard, an Asus Maximus Formula VI, has an 8 phase VRM system with high quality components and has a heatsink that can be setup for water cooling if I wanted for even better performance.

TL;DR? Knowing which board he has will help us understand if it is possibly his board causing issues. As I said before, the FX series had a lot of issues with the VRMs on the lower end boards. For example you could only run the FX 9590 properly on a 990FX board of very high quality.
 

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I've seen a lot of people put a FX8320 on the ancient 760 boards. While it's technically possible, the 760 boards are really meant for a max of 95W cpus. If you are having issues and aren't sure which board you have, this is the first thing I'd figure out.
 
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