How to cool 200W CPU?

[SeriousNND]

How i can cool down 200W cpu? (My E5-2679v4) This is 20 cores 40 threads 2.5Ghz stock 3.3Ghz turbo cpu who can boost all cores at 3.2Ghz. I was looking at Arctic liquid freezer 360, must be liquid cooling cuz i think to air cooling can't help me here. What 53°C TCase mean , i found that info at intel website: https://ark.intel.com/products/91751/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2679-v4-50M-Cache-2_50-GHz?q=2679%20v4
TY For all advices/help

 

[mrobscura]

i honestly dont know what yo u can use to cool this cpu, but i could be wrong, and someone correct me if i am, i think these server chips tend to have their own server level cooling solutions as opposed to typical desktop cooling.

as for air vs liquid. air isnt always better. yes an air cooler tends to do as good or better than equally priced aios, but a good aio will outperform all but the top air coolers. for example an h115i and a noctua d15 are about on par with the h115i coming out slightly ahead. yes its more money, but then it comes down to whether or not you value an aio vs a huge tower cooler and if so if that justifies the extra cost. for me it did, i didnt want to bother with a huge heatsink.

 

[Karadjgne]

The biggest problem with those aquarium coolers like the one mentioned above, is volume. They are designed to cool a lot higher volume of liquid constantly. Having a very small volume in just the pipes + rad can cause issues, especially with condensation buildup. Those compressors are built to run 24/7, it's actually detrimental to have the constant off/on that a small volume cooler will create as the liquid gets chilled/heated. The best way to incorporate a chiller like those is to actually use a fish tank as the reservoir, lowering extreme temperature variations of the actual liquid. Cpu temp has very little to do with the liquid temp, and it's the liquid temp that's going to be controlling the thermostat in the chiller. This isn't a new idea it's been floating around for years, and has never really gotten a following due to the needs of the chiller to be successful. Not many ppl want a fish tank sitting next to the pc.

My suggestion would be to look into peltier cooling, or a full custom loop and bite the bullet about liquid maintenance. Everybody loves the idea of a Lamborghini, nobody loves the price tag to maintain it. You want uber cooling for an uber cpu, it's gonna take some user input monthly.

 

[Tech_TTT]

The biggest problem with those aquarium coolers like the one mentioned above, is volume. They are designed to cool a lot higher volume of liquid constantly. Having a very small volume in just the pipes + rad can cause issues, especially with condensation buildup. Those compressors are built to run 24/7, it's actually detrimental to have the constant off/on that a small volume cooler will create as the liquid gets chilled/heated. The best way to incorporate a chiller like those is to actually use a fish tank as the reservoir, lowering extreme temperature variations of the actual liquid. Cpu temp has very little to do with the liquid temp, and it's the liquid temp that's going to be controlling the thermostat in the chiller. This isn't a new idea it's been floating around for years, and has never really gotten a following due to the needs of the chiller to be successful. Not many ppl want a fish tank sitting next to the pc.

My suggestion would be to look into peltier cooling, or a full custom loop and bite the bullet about liquid maintenance. Everybody loves the idea of a Lamborghini, nobody loves the price tag to maintain it. You want uber cooling for an uber cpu, it's gonna take some user input monthly.

The condensation can be avoided by setting the temps of the loop= room temps ... and they dont need an Aquarium next to them.. they will work fine.

the only bad thing about them , is noise .. they need to be isolated and the tubes routed to the pc .

I still prefer and external 9x140 external Radiator for his build ... this thing needs to be external to keep the cpu <54c

no hot air inside the case at all , and need direct cool air for the Radiator which cant happen inside a case.

 

[Tech_TTT]

@op

can you please tell me where you get the info that it boots all cores to 3.2Ghz on turbo ? any links ?

Its AMAZING if so ...

Yes, On wikipedia , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors#Xeon_E5-26xx_v4_.28dual-processor.29
Multipiler x7 so 0.1 Ghz (100mhz) *7 = 700Mhz , 700Mhz+2500Mhz = 3200 So all 20 Cores at 3.2Ghz (1 core at 3.3)
About cooling i think i need some AIO , here is Cinebench: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRSW0eQeAAQ

OMG

7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/8/8

FANTASTIC

Why intel never shows this info in their site ? They never release the turbo info for their chip in the specs site.

Edit : look at the Xeon Gold 6154 !!!

Edit: can you give me a link to any shop selling this CPU ? I know some one who wants this kind of rendering power badly.

Is there any way without custom loop or open loop? Cuz i don't want to maintenance my water cooling.
Xeon Gold 6154 is also 200W but 18c36t at 3Ghz , and this mine is 20c40t at 3.2Ghz so i think i won (Depend on all cores turbo boost on Gold 6154)
Just answer me can Arctic liquid freezer 360 handle the job or no? If no, tell me what to do.

the 3x120 swiftech I posted above is very powerful but you need to test it and see if it stays below 53 or not I cant tell.

the Xeon Gold 6154 is 3Ghz in non turbo mode ... yours is 2.5ghz , I guess the Xeon Gold 6154 in turbo mode would be alot more than 3.2Ghz .. but we need to wait and see.

one more thing , I failed to locate the E5-2679v4 online for sale , any ideas where to buy it from ?

Edit : Call intel , for sure they have a cooler for this CPU !!!

If you joke with asking Intel for "Intel stock BOX Cooler" nice joke AHahah but i see you wanna buy 1 so i will give you the cheapest 1 for about 1750$ https://world.taobao.com/item/534760238561.htm
8 years shop 5 stars rating and 100% trust ratio (Customs and VAT not included depend on your country.)
For Xeon gold i think there is still not water coolers for LGA 3647 :/ (If you found any link me)
Your: http://www.swiftech.com/h320x2prestige.aspx#tab4 Can't cool even 6 cores bellow 60c :/ Is this H320 X2 Prestige AIO or maintainable Open Loop ?

The swiftech is better than arctic cooling .

and it is both AIO (comes ready) and can be opened and expanded with more radiators and cooling blocks.

I dont think 3x120 Radiator is enough to keep your CPU under 54 c 24/7 but you can test it ...

Thanks for the link .

I would still say call Intel , if they release such a CPU then they have the cooler for it.

 

[SeriousNND]

i honestly dont know what yo u can use to cool this cpu, but i could be wrong, and someone correct me if i am, i think these server chips tend to have their own server level cooling solutions as opposed to typical desktop cooling.

as for air vs liquid. air isnt always better. yes an air cooler tends to do as good or better than equally priced aios, but a good aio will outperform all but the top air coolers. for example an h115i and a noctua d15 are about on par with the h115i coming out slightly ahead. yes its more money, but then it comes down to whether or not you value an aio vs a huge tower cooler and if so if that justifies the extra cost. for me it did, i didnt want to bother with a huge heatsink.

Yes you are totaly alright , read about this 2 here: https://www.nextplatform.com/2016/06/02/ebay-taps-dell-triton-systems-overclock-search-engines/
https://www.nextplatform.com/2016/07/18/hpc-flows-hyperscale-dell-triton/
BUT, i don't have any money for that kind of power, so i am planing to use only 1 E5-2679v4 not even dual socket
So that's why i am looking for help for "Workstation" use.

 

[SeriousNND]

@op

can you please tell me where you get the info that it boots all cores to 3.2Ghz on turbo ? any links ?

Its AMAZING if so ...

Yes, On wikipedia , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors#Xeon_E5-26xx_v4_.28dual-processor.29
Multipiler x7 so 0.1 Ghz (100mhz) *7 = 700Mhz , 700Mhz+2500Mhz = 3200 So all 20 Cores at 3.2Ghz (1 core at 3.3)
About cooling i think i need some AIO , here is Cinebench: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRSW0eQeAAQ

OMG

7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/8/8

FANTASTIC

Why intel never shows this info in their site ? They never release the turbo info for their chip in the specs site.

Edit : look at the Xeon Gold 6154 !!!

Edit: can you give me a link to any shop selling this CPU ? I know some one who wants this kind of rendering power badly.

Is there any way without custom loop or open loop? Cuz i don't want to maintenance my water cooling.
Xeon Gold 6154 is also 200W but 18c36t at 3Ghz , and this mine is 20c40t at 3.2Ghz so i think i won (Depend on all cores turbo boost on Gold 6154)
Just answer me can Arctic liquid freezer 360 handle the job or no? If no, tell me what to do.

the 3x120 swiftech I posted above is very powerful but you need to test it and see if it stays below 53 or not I cant tell.

the Xeon Gold 6154 is 3Ghz in non turbo mode ... yours is 2.5ghz , I guess the Xeon Gold 6154 in turbo mode would be alot more than 3.2Ghz .. but we need to wait and see.

one more thing , I failed to locate the E5-2679v4 online for sale , any ideas where to buy it from ?

Edit : Call intel , for sure they have a cooler for this CPU !!!

If you joke with asking Intel for "Intel stock BOX Cooler" nice joke AHahah but i see you wanna buy 1 so i will give you the cheapest 1 for about 1750$ https://world.taobao.com/item/534760238561.htm
8 years shop 5 stars rating and 100% trust ratio (Customs and VAT not included depend on your country.)
For Xeon gold i think there is still not water coolers for LGA 3647 :/ (If you found any link me)
Your: http://www.swiftech.com/h320x2prestige.aspx#tab4 Can't cool even 6 cores bellow 60c :/ Is this H320 X2 Prestige AIO or maintainable Open Loop ?

The swiftech is better than arctic cooling .

and it is both AIO (comes ready) and can be opened and expanded with more radiators and cooling blocks.

I dont think 3x120 Radiator is enough to keep your CPU under 54 c 24/7 but you can test it ...

Thanks for the link .

I would still say call Intel , if they release such a CPU then they have the cooler for it.

No, Intel don't have any solution to this cuz is custom made cpu. So the company what ordered this: (EBAY) cooling in his way described here: https://www.nextplatform.com/2016/06/02/ebay-taps-dell-triton-systems-overclock-search-engines/
https://www.nextplatform.com/2016/07/18/hpc-flows-hyperscale-dell-triton/

 

[Tech_TTT]

@op

can you please tell me where you get the info that it boots all cores to 3.2Ghz on turbo ? any links ?

Its AMAZING if so ...

Yes, On wikipedia , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors#Xeon_E5-26xx_v4_.28dual-processor.29
Multipiler x7 so 0.1 Ghz (100mhz) *7 = 700Mhz , 700Mhz+2500Mhz = 3200 So all 20 Cores at 3.2Ghz (1 core at 3.3)
About cooling i think i need some AIO , here is Cinebench: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRSW0eQeAAQ

OMG

7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/7/8/8

FANTASTIC

Why intel never shows this info in their site ? They never release the turbo info for their chip in the specs site.

Edit : look at the Xeon Gold 6154 !!!

Edit: can you give me a link to any shop selling this CPU ? I know some one who wants this kind of rendering power badly.

Is there any way without custom loop or open loop? Cuz i don't want to maintenance my water cooling.
Xeon Gold 6154 is also 200W but 18c36t at 3Ghz , and this mine is 20c40t at 3.2Ghz so i think i won (Depend on all cores turbo boost on Gold 6154)
Just answer me can Arctic liquid freezer 360 handle the job or no? If no, tell me what to do.

the 3x120 swiftech I posted above is very powerful but you need to test it and see if it stays below 53 or not I cant tell.

the Xeon Gold 6154 is 3Ghz in non turbo mode ... yours is 2.5ghz , I guess the Xeon Gold 6154 in turbo mode would be alot more than 3.2Ghz .. but we need to wait and see.

one more thing , I failed to locate the E5-2679v4 online for sale , any ideas where to buy it from ?

Edit : Call intel , for sure they have a cooler for this CPU !!!

If you joke with asking Intel for "Intel stock BOX Cooler" nice joke AHahah but i see you wanna buy 1 so i will give you the cheapest 1 for about 1750$ https://world.taobao.com/item/534760238561.htm
8 years shop 5 stars rating and 100% trust ratio (Customs and VAT not included depend on your country.)
For Xeon gold i think there is still not water coolers for LGA 3647 :/ (If you found any link me)
Your: http://www.swiftech.com/h320x2prestige.aspx#tab4 Can't cool even 6 cores bellow 60c :/ Is this H320 X2 Prestige AIO or maintainable Open Loop ?

The swiftech is better than arctic cooling .

and it is both AIO (comes ready) and can be opened and expanded with more radiators and cooling blocks.

I dont think 3x120 Radiator is enough to keep your CPU under 54 c 24/7 but you can test it ...

Thanks for the link .

I would still say call Intel , if they release such a CPU then they have the cooler for it.

No, Intel don't have any solution to this cuz is custom made cpu. So the company what ordered this: (EBAY) cooling in his way described here: https://www.nextplatform.com/2016/06/02/ebay-taps-dell-triton-systems-overclock-search-engines/
https://www.nextplatform.com/2016/07/18/hpc-flows-hyperscale-dell-triton/

well then water chiller or huge radiator is your only way ...

watcher chiller will be smaller but is noisy

as for water cooling it has to be DIY water cooler , there is no other way ..

if you want to avoid making it external , get a case with isloated place for Radiators ..

some good cases :

1- PC-D888WX 8Pack Edition ATX Cube Case

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lian-li-pc-d888wx-8pack-edition-atx-cube-case-black-ca-739-ll.html

Watercooling Radiator Support: Bottom: Up to 360mm, Front: Up to 480mm, Top: Up to 2 x 360mm, Rear: Up to 360mm + separate 120mm, Dedicated Pump Mount for 2 Pumps

2- Thermaltake Core W200

http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002894
Radiators :

Front:
1 x 360mm
Top:
2 x 480mm , 2 x 560mm , 1 x 600mm
Rear: 1 x 120mm , 1 x 140mm
Bottom:
2 x 280mm
Right:
2 x 480mm , 2 x 560mm , 2 x 600mm

Edit : Are you planing on using 2 of those CPU on dual socket Xeon motherboard ? or Just one ?

 

[SeriousNND]

I plan only 1 for now , but if i get another 1800$ i will get second. Depend on cooling solution and total cost.
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=292 I was thinking about this case , and this rad: http://www.performance-pcs.com/hardware-labs-black-icer-nemesisr-gtr-black-carbon-radiator-560mm.html 560MM MUST be enough to cool this bastard 200W and if this case support 2x 560MM rads, than i will gets 2nd E5-2679v4
Tell me cost's of cooling and eventualy changing mobo and case :/

 

[SeriousNND]

Sorry for bad words i just started to rage cuz i think there is no exit from my situation problem

 

[Tech_TTT]

I plan only 1 for now , but if i get another 1800$ i will get second. Depend on cooling solution and total cost.
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=292 I was thinking about this case , and this rad: http://www.performance-pcs.com/hardware-labs-black-icer-nemesisr-gtr-black-carbon-radiator-560mm.html 560MM MUST be enough to cool this bastard 200W and if this case support 2x 560MM rads, than i will gets 2nd E5-2679v4
Tell me cost's of cooling and eventualy changing mobo and case :/

That silver stone case needs modding to add radiators on the bottom

read the specs .

which motherboard are you planing to get ?

 

[SeriousNND]

I plan only 1 for now , but if i get another 1800$ i will get second. Depend on cooling solution and total cost.
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=292 I was thinking about this case , and this rad: http://www.performance-pcs.com/hardware-labs-black-icer-nemesisr-gtr-black-carbon-radiator-560mm.html 560MM MUST be enough to cool this bastard 200W and if this case support 2x 560MM rads, than i will gets 2nd E5-2679v4
Tell me cost's of cooling and eventualy changing mobo and case :/

That silver stone case needs modding to add radiators on the bottom

read the specs .

which motherboard are you planing to get ?

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/xJFPxr/asrock-motherboard-x99extreme4
Asrock x99 Extreme 4 (Cuz support 128GB DDR4 RAM at 2133Mhz) (And This CPU)

 

[Tech_TTT]

no man . Pick a dual Xeon mother board and use one socket and leave the other open for the future .

get one of these :

1- Asus Z10PE-D16 WS (I prefer this one)

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z10PED8_WS/


2- Z10PE-D8 WS

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z10PED8_WS/


and your CPU supports DDR4 2400 !!! use ECC Rigestered DDR4 2400

 

[SeriousNND]

Z10PE-D8 WS Looks good but how the hell i will cooldown 2 of them if i can't cool even 1 ??? Ahahahahahh

 

[SeriousNND]

This guy <removed> up my mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=silIsUEKEEQ
I wanted to pick H115i and finish this <removed> but that video guy says to Arctic perform better -.- Now i am in even bigger trouble to choose cooler

Watch the language. - G

 

[Tech_TTT]

Z10PE-D8 WS Looks good but how the hell i will cooldown 2 of them if i can't cool even 1 ??? Ahahahahahh

lol ... I think 4x140 Radiator for each would be enough.

The Z10PE-d8 has only 4 dimms per cpu for RAM , so you cant add more ram later if you wish to . this is quad channel CPU . you will need to add RAM in 4 dimms .

Thats why I prefer the D16 (8 dimms per CPU)

 

[SeriousNND]

This guy selling 2x E5-2679v4 Premade PC 32GB RAM etc... https://world.taobao.com/item/546925525284.htm
4100$ But how the hell he think to cool only with noctua? , maybe this is only 1 of many chinesee bait, what you think?

 

[g-unit1111]

This guy <removed> up my mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=silIsUEKEEQ
I wanted to pick H115i and finish this <removed> but that video guy says to Arctic perform better -.- Now i am in even bigger trouble to choose cooler

Watch the language. - G

That guy has no clue what he is talking about - Arctic Coolers are some of the worst you can buy. There's way better triple fan radiators out there. An EWKB Predator would be a far better purchase than that Arctic Cooler.

 

[Tech_TTT]

This guy selling 2x E5-2679v4 Premade PC 32GB RAM etc... https://world.taobao.com/item/546925525284.htm
4100$ But how the hell he think to cool only with noctua? , maybe this is only 1 of many chinesee bait, what you think?

I cant tell ... hard to know , but I would not buy complete system , I will do my own.

 

[Tech_TTT]

This guy <removed> up my mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=silIsUEKEEQ
I wanted to pick H115i and finish this <removed> but that video guy says to Arctic perform better -.- Now i am in even bigger trouble to choose cooler

Watch the language. - G

That guy has no clue what he is talking about - Arctic Coolers are some of the worst you can buy. There's way better triple fan radiators out there. An EWKB Predator would be a far better purchase than that Arctic Cooler.

He is just following people replies on forums , some are right and some are wrong. it is okay , he is here to learn anyways. his goal is to cool that CPU below 54c all the time and he is looking for a solution .

and I appreciate that he came here , I never imagined such a strong CPU exists for such a low price ... these are OEM built for special orders , and I think they will not last long as well ... I guess some one tested them and selling them in the market , you cant find these retail.

Those are made for the chinese market by the way .. and not worldwide, from what I read.

 

[Saga Lout]

I think this thread has run its course and it's closing time.

I also think you have learned one thing if nothing else, SeriousNND, and that is why servers live in rooms which are so cold, no-one would want to work in there.

With all your experience, I would have thought you'd have known that but that is the way you cool the system you seek.