How Will AMD stay alive?

[Upendra09]

JD lay off the crack dude

Any way we were talking about Intel and AMD's roadmaps and how competitive they are to each other

 

[Upendra09]

u know bulldozer vs Intel something

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Hey, thats how some people are, and same goes for some Intel fans as well.
If AMD made an octo chip that clocked in at 6Ghz and had double the IPC of their current chips, some people would find fault with them, maybe even with the cardboard it cam shipped in, thats what Im saying

 

[jennyh]

Well we could always change it to "Things Some Fanbois Wish They Never Said" 😀

To wit, jennyh:

"when you buy intel, a certain percentage of what you paid goes on their legal fees, bribery and global warming."

http://corralescomment.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=616&Itemid=2

If I could be bothered, I could dig up lots more.

"What if we could suddenly use L2N in our daily cooling? That sort of thing is only a few years away"

"What about sizzling stuff to a cooked state in a microwave 20 years+ ago?"

You have no idea what is coming in the next few years, hell failzers I doubt you have any clue what is gonna happen tomorrow. The point there is pretty simple, ie before the microwave was invented nobody would have imagined that such a method of cooking was possible. Of course you missed that, because you are also pretty simple.

"If AMD had even half the money intel did, we'd all be using microchips in cyborg-like fashion already. Intels engineers are just so bad they are retarding progress, but AMD will put paid to them eventually. "

Yes, see implanted technology is a lot closer than you think. Had intel not held back AMD, and therefore the worlds progress on cpu's, we'd be even closer yet.

"Reality is, AMD engineers are the smartest in the world, followed closely by ARM's."

Intel themselves said ARM had very smart engineers. We'll see how long they take to change their tune when they start losing billions in sales to them.

"If 10/20 years in the future, you or your kids/parents/whatever are lying in a hospital bed dying of some disease that *could* have been prevented had the money gone to the right places - or better still had money not been the overriding factor on who lives or dies. Will you look back with pride on how much you supported intel?"

"Or do you really believe intel are the company that will care for you and your family's health? The same company who have been found guilty on numerous occasions of ripping of their own customers?"

[:rocket_sauce:1]

Yes and I stand by that. Failzers, you lack imagination that much is very clear. You think that these chips inside pc's are always gonna be like this, and there will be no branching out into other areas. Let me spell it out to you - drugs, medicine, health - these things make much more cash than microchips do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biochip

I find it almost scary that a corrupt company like intel could ever be allowed to take any part in this future. You should read a lot more and write a lot less btw, try to expand that unimaginative mind you possess.

 

[suryasans]

Intel is a true evil company with corrupt executives. The worst of all is the former chairman, Craig R. Barrett.

 

[spud]

Intel is a true evil company with corrupt executives. The worst of all is the former chairman, Craig R. Barrett.

So what does that make Hector after all he got paid and didnt do anything other than sit on the K8.

 

[randomizer]

That makes Hector not evil, but stupid.

 

[spud]

That makes Hector not evil, but stupid.

Hmm well then Im a darkside man then, now do I need to drink the blood of virgins. Im not sure exactly what level of evil Intel is and by buying their silicon how evil that makes me?

 

[randomizer]

It depends on what you bought. A C2Q is going to give you a double cheeseburger personality, so you'll be on two different levels of evil, while Nehalem is going to make you monosadistic.

 

[intelx]

ey randomize whats with you guys and this guy's sig, is he that sexy or something?

 

[amdfangirl]

ey randomize whats with you guys and this guy's sig, is he that sexy or something?

He's the Nvidia guy.

Their CEO.

 

[fazers_on_stun]

http://corralescomment.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=616&Itemid=2

If I could be bothered, I could dig up lots more.

LOL - you think AMD does no harm?? Check out AMD's Phosphorus Water Pollution in Austin, TX :

At the special session city council meeting on April 3rd, Water Quality Engineer, Dr. Lauren Ross gave public comments which included a chart of some of the pollution that will come off the AMD site. The chart is based on information provided by AMD engineers.

In the graph below, pink is the amount of phosphorous that AMD is proposing they will discharge. Blue is what they would be permitted to discharge under SOS water quality regulations. AMD is relying on “grandfathering” laws to exempt them from SOS requirements

Yep, AMD the wunderkind company that does no harm - trying to save a few bux and poison the local townspeople, with pollution 10x above safe levels... 😀

BTW, your link didn't say anything about Intel's "global warming", in case yet another factoid managed to sneak past your attention deficit span 😀

You have no idea what is coming in the next few years, hell failzers I doubt you have any clue what is gonna happen tomorrow. The point there is pretty simple, ie before the microwave was invented nobody would have imagined that such a method of cooking was possible. Of course you missed that, because you are also pretty simple.

Actually you forgot about the "L2N" {sic: LN2 presumably}. LN2 cooling is grossly inefficient and a huge energy waster - and you talk about "global warming"??

As for microwave "sizzling stuff to a cooked state" 😀 - seriously, do you write comedy for a living? - it has been quite well known for decades (since the invention of radar, actually) that RF at certain frequencies can energize the water molecules present in food, people dumb enough to stick their hands close to the emitter cavity, etc. However it wasn't until the advent of the mass-produced magnetron that the price came down enough to make it affordable to the average household. I think it was the Amana radarange or some such back in the early '70s that was the first affordable oven.

I suppose your average butt-scratching bush pygmy might still find microwave ovens to be awesome "magic", but we all truly hope you have been domesticated, or at least housebroken, for a while now 😀

Yes, see implanted technology is a lot closer than you think. Had intel not held back AMD, and therefore the worlds progress on cpu's, we'd be even closer yet.

LOL - really, jenny - there's just no defending this one . Really! You truly want a Barcelona stuck inside your noggin?? Sheesh!! Even I, loyal fanbois that I am 😀, wouldn't want an i7 in my eye. Or a P2 in my - well, you get the idea 😀

Intel themselves said ARM had very smart engineers. We'll see how long they take to change their tune when they start losing billions in sales to them.

Don't quite follow that one - you mean Intel will say ARM engineers are stupid, once ARM starts taking marketshare? That wouldn't make sense. And marketshare in what?? Netbooks? You might notice it's a bit of a challenge to dislodge x86 given the huge amount of sofware written for that market...

"If 10/20 years in the future, you or your kids/parents/whatever are lying in a hospital bed dying of some disease that *could* have been prevented had the money gone to the right places - or better still had money not been the overriding factor on who lives or dies. Will you look back with pride on how much you supported intel?"

"Or do you really believe intel are the company that will care for you and your family's health? The same company who have been found guilty on numerous occasions of ripping of their own customers?"

---Yes and I stand by that. Failzers, you lack imagination that much is very clear. You think that these chips inside pc's are always gonna be like this, and there will be no branching out into other areas. Let me spell it out to you - drugs, medicine, health - these things make much more cash than microchips do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biochip

I find it almost scary that a corrupt company like intel could ever be allowed to take any part in this future. You should read a lot more and write a lot less btw, try to expand that unimaginative mind you possess.

First of all, the "disease" quote was in response to your earlier denial that you ever said such a ridiculous thing 😛. Anyway, please explain how Intel customers giving Intel $$ for product, is money going to the (presumably) wrong place to prevent disease. What about AMD customers, what few there are? Shouldn't they also be giving up their dimes & nickels (or whatever AMD can charge for its CPUs), to help cure disease instead of buying global-warming space heaters and then cooling them with LN2??

And I guess by contrast, you figure AMD is the company that will care for you & your family's health? Please note the pollution link at the top of this post 😀.

Next up, the "biochip" link - what does this have to do with anything? If you had actually read your link, you might have discovered that these are merely biological assay chips that are able to test in parallel for a large variety of characteristics. Not the same as the implantable chips you mentioned earlier. And yes there probably is a good-sized market for them, but not on the same scale as microprocessors. You think in the future we'll all have biochips stuck everywhere? Doing what, pray tell? And I doubt they'll be making much more cash that CPUs - where was that in your Wiki link? Besides, AMD doesn't make biochips either, do they?

Finally, my imaginatiion is just fine, tyvm. However, as an engineer who runs a small department of some 17 other engineers, generating on average about $7M per year in income, I also tend to be pragmatic, a quality which you rarely demonstrate in your posts by the way. You also tend to get all emo and giddy, with alarm bells going off every other post! 😀.

 

[fazers_on_stun]

He's the Nvidia guy.

Their CEO.

Yes, most of us know Jen-Hsun, but why are the mods bowing to his greatness - did he threaten them with a can o' whoopass again? Or perhaps the upcoming G300?

 

[jimmysmitty]

Oh ... yeah ... they even look like em !!

AMD Haters ...

You forgot to add Yomamma and jimmy ...

Once upon a time they were all minions for Lord turpit too ...

Thank god his 1500 word essays are gone from this place.

Back then you couldn't say anything positive about AMD or tackle these idiots without him threatening (via PM) to delete your account.

MaronMatrix and I just ignored the wanker.

More power to you Jenny.

Will you marr me instead and ditch TC?

He only has one degree and I have three !!

LOLZ ....

Um why do you always drag me into everything? Just because I don't see AMD as a godsend company out to cure you of everything and allow you to live till 1000 doesn't mean I hate AMD. I just see them as they are. A company who as of now hasn't brought anything to the table to beat Intel. (Not counting ATI, they are seperate).

And the thing I liked about Turpit was that he actually backed every last thing he said up with facts and links to multiple articles as proof. Something a lot of people here fail to do a lot.

 

[randomizer]

Maybe he offered us one of his wire-y demo "cards"

 

[randomizer]

Speaking of turpit, what ever happened to him?

 

[spud]

Speaking of turpit, what ever happened to him?

Rumor has is wingy got him... wingy is scary...

 

[randomizer]

Wingy has been spotted up here recently too. After more prey it seems.

 

[Upendra09]

Random is gay especially for japanese ppl

 

[randomizer]

 

[enigma067]

Yes, you are an AMD fanboy by indicating that only smart people build rigs with AMD. That implies that people who build with Intel are not smart.

Is AMD DOOOOOOOMED? Not yet. But things are looking very bad for them. Their products need to be more competitive so they can charge more for them. Optionally they can reduce costs, but I don't see that happening.

No one up here is qualified to cast judgment on a CPU
manufacture they do not own and operate.

Your rantings are pure speculation and speculation is not fact.

The AMD Dragon platform plays the same games the
Core i7 does but at a lower cost to the consumer.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4588101&Sku=A79-0955
200

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4240166&Sku=CP1-I7-920
280

Diff - $80

I'll bet they both play the games equally as well.
Intel needs to reduce cost and pass some savings
on to their customers like AMD does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHB-cWItRaQ

And i thought Intel was . . . . . awesome?

January 08, 2009:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLF7w2rh4To

But you Intel fanbois just cannot comprehend the difference. Incapable of solving a basic mathematical problem.

 

[randomizer]

And what about i5 750? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5210397&Sku=I69-1750

 

[Upendra09]

reallly random? is that the best u can do? a cat?

ooohhhhh i am so afraid

 

[jimmysmitty]

No one up here is qualified to cast judgment on a CPU
manufacture they do not own and operate.

Your rantings are pure speculation and speculation is not fact.

The AMD Dragon platform plays the same games the
Core i7 does but at a lower cost to the consumer.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4588101&Sku=A79-0955
200

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4240166&Sku=CP1-I7-920
280

Diff - $80

I'll bet they both play the games equally as well.
Intel needs to reduce cost and pass some savings
on to their customers like AMD does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHB-cWItRaQ

And i thought Intel was . . . . . awesome?

January 08, 2009:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLF7w2rh4To

But you Intel fanbois just cannot comprehend the difference. Incapable of solving a basic mathematical problem.

Woot. AMD marketing. Love how they didn't even list the actual specs of the Intel system like they normally do because they normally use a low end Intel spec system and a mid end AMD system.

And your obviouse fanboyisim is funny. BTW, nothing you buy makes you smarter. Just like AMD wont cure cancer like jennyh thinks.

And what about i5 750? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5210397&Sku=I69-1750

Nope. If its AMD marketing you have to compare the cheaper AMD stuff to Intels highest end $1K CPU. Oh and also, make sure to remember that DDR3 is always more expensive until AMD starts using it. Or wait.... Intel pushed it so by the time AMD got to it, it was cheaper....... Damn intel and their pushing of newer memory standards and other technologies!!!!!!

 

[randomizer]

Btw enigma, why do you always refer to games? Is that all you think people use their computer for? If yes, then you're an idiot if you spend all your money on an LGA1366 system (or even an LGA1156 i7).