I dont understand....

[Guest]

Ok, so if you check my post called "OC time", I was told that to overclock, I had to change my ram/processor sync to 5:4, but I did none of this and just got it the BIOS and overclocked it by 5%, just like that. Without changing anything! I definatly dont understand....

Some people that have ASUS mobos may have the same feature as me. When I go in the BIOS I have choices for overclocking, either manually, or by % (5, 10, 20 or 30).
So I was just fooling around in the BIOS when I decided to change it to 5%, from stock. Much to my surprise, it booted properly....! I just couldnt believe it, so i downloaded WCPUID, to verify if it had really vhanged something, much to my surprise, again, it had changed from 2,6ghz to 2,71 ghz! So after all this chatter, my question is... what the hell happened??? Can I push it on to 10% soon without danger?? Does anyone here have an ASUS mobo, and knows better how it's bios works?

Anyway, all that's left to do is to check stability with prime95, and I will have accomplished my first OC, weeee!!!

 

[HardWareBoss]

I don't have Asus Mobo. But I set my Fsb 250 and changed a couple other things on my IS7 2.4c now 3.0. Dram 5:4

 

[ChipDeath]

You'll only need to change the ratio if you wish to run your CPU FSB at a rate faster than your RAM can handle. e.g. if you've got 200Mhz RAM(400 DDR) and you have a CPU bus of 250Mhz (1Ghz QDR) then your RAM will probably crap out on you, so you'd have to set a 5:4 CPU:RAM ratio in order to keep the CPU going at that speed but not get restricted by the RAM.

I'm not suprised you got an extra 5%, since virtually all components (RAM, CPU, etc) will take 5%.. In fact you'll probably find even 10% is ok.

If you're running slack timings, good quality PC3200 RAM could probably go beyond 220Mhz (10%) without too much trouble.

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Although from reading your post(s), I would suggest you put the overclocking on hold for a while, until you fully understand how the whole FSB/RAM and multipliers stuff works, as it <i>is</i> possible to damage components if you don't understand what you are changing.

If you must go ahead, then I would suggest that you <b>don't</b> change any voltages, but stick to fiddling with CPU/RAM ratio, and CPU FSB settings
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The end is nigh.. (For this post at least) <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ChipDeath on 09/15/03 01:32 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Guest]

Yes, there is still plenty i don't understand but im trying to catch up as fast as possible 😛

Can you explain what ram timing is???? Ive seen stuff like a few numbers one after the other, but I have no idea what it means or how it works.... thx in advance 😛

 

[ytoledano]

I think it told you to go to 5:4 mode if you had PC3200 memory. It may seem that everything's fine with a small overclock and it may really be fine, but if you'll go to 2.8 you might start seing you system acts funny, like processes closing with no reason. That's what happened to me so if you want to get to 250 FSB and 3.25GHZ you really should go to 5:4 mode.
PS: I have no idea what's that overclocking my % means, and don't really trust it, I like having every setting under control.

Roses are <font color=red>red</font color=red>, violets are <font color=blue>blue</font color=blue>, post something stupid and I won't reply to you!

 

[siranthony]

You will have to change from auto to manual or user defined (I forget) to see the real overclocking features. Also the ASUS board does not use 1:1 5:4 3:2 deviders. It uses 400 320 266. 400=1:1 320=5:4 266=3:2. Make sure to lock the PCI/AGP buss at 66/33. You are only overclocking by 5%. You are not pushing your ram very hard. You will need to use the deviders if you want to overclock further. Set the devider to 320. Then set tou FSB to say 233. If it works try 250. 250 may not work as that will be 3.2g. This is where you tweek the voltage to see if it will work. Push it as far as you can without adjusting the voltafge. Then test for stability. This is overclocking. You will get it. It's not hard. Just frustrating at times. If the board fails after an overclock don't panic. Just turn the PSU off and back on until it comes back up. Then go in the bios and try somthing else. Once you figure out what the CPU can do then test the memory. You should be able to figure that out.

P4 2.4c @ 3.0 ASUS P4P800 dx Geil Golden Dragon PC4000 2.5,3,3,6 250FSB 1:1 Radeon 9800 non-pro 2 Maxtor 60gig 7200rpm 8mb cach in raid 0 SB Audigy 2 Antec True 480

 

[Guest]

Well the thing is, i tried 10%, and it worked perfectly. They say in the Jump-free configuration panel that, quote : "Revelant parameters will be adjusted auto."
So, does this mean I'm safe?? This chapter also states no-quote "if you push it too far it'll become unstable" . So, is the only danger of it beeing unstable ?


Edit : how the hell do you write automaticaly, help me out here
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by HARDWARE_NOOB on 09/15/03 08:54 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[traviss187]

"Revelant parameters will be adjusted auto."
this is saying that as you increase your processor speed, it will increase the ram speed, unless you go in and change it. As you reach higher % then your ram will become unstable, so you can then change the ratio to 5:4 and overclock the processor even higher, but i recomend reading some of the lit. on the net on overclocking before you get ahead of yourself... and could end up damageing something

 

[siranthony]

Don't trust the auto configuration. It will lower you memory divider to 266 automatically. It tends to stay too much on the safe side. I gave you a pretty good description of how to overclock this board. If you still can't figure it out or don't feel comfortable then you probably shouldn't be overclocking! You should be able to find articles on the web on how to overclock. At this point I would say STOP and do some reading.

P4 2.4c @ 3.0 ASUS P4P800 dx Geil Golden Dragon PC4000 2.5,3,3,6 250FSB 1:1 Radeon 9800 non-pro 2 Maxtor 60gig 7200rpm 8mb cach in raid 0 SB Audigy 2 Antec True 480