[SOLVED] I NEED HELP CAN'T PICK A GOOD BUILD

[HaMzAxSaRaB]

Im about to build a new pc and i cant choose one of two build

1) Ryzen 3600 with GTX 1660 Super 16gb ram DDR4 3200

OR

2)Ryzen 2600x with rtx 2060 or(RX 5700) 16gb ram DDR4 3200


also i know that rx5700 is better then 2060 but its super hot, and is ok to play long hours on a 75+C or its fine? personally i get scared when i see 75C


PS: im only using this pc for gaming

 

[512-Bit]

I'd get a 3600 and pair it with the 2060 or 5700xt, and get faster RAM.

75+C should be fine as far as I know in case of temperature.

 

[HaMzAxSaRaB]

I'd get a 3600 and pair it with the 2060 or 5700xt, and get faster RAM.

75+C should be fine as far as I know in case of temperature.

Im on a budget otherwise i would do that my only options are those two

 

[512-Bit]

Im on a budget otherwise i would do that my only options are those two

what is the exact budget?

do you have the ram, motherboard, case, other parts in mind?

 

[alceryes]

what is the exact budget?

do you have the ram, motherboard, case, other parts in mind?

Yes, exact budget and country you'll be buying in are needed.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

The Patriot Viper DDR4-3733 CAS 17 RAM (which is the best RAM speed for Ryzen 3000) is relatively inexpensive compared to 3200 CAS 14 or 3600 CAS 16 (the other relatively sweet spots for RAM speed)

3200 CAS14: $119.99 (GSkill Flare X 16 gb)
3600 CAS16: $107.99 (GSkill Ripjaws V 16gb)
3733 CAS17: $99.99 (Patriot Viper 16gb)

 

[HaMzAxSaRaB]

Yes, exact budget and country you'll be buying in are needed.

Im buying the parts in canada ,my budget is 950 canadian dollar thats like 750 american dollar i have a case and ssd and hard drive so this is a list of what im looking at .

i can alsi wait for RX5600 but i bet its gonna be a flame ball going over 75degrees

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Do the first build. But these changes.

-drop the 2600x
-drop the hyper 212 evo

Keep that asrock board you have
Add the 3600 as you are talking about. It comes with a stock cooler already. So I would use that now. Later you can add a better cooler if desired.

Make sure they show the ASRock board as updated for the 3000 series. I have almost the same board, the ASRock AB350 Pro 4. I'm running a 1700x overclocked with an AMD Wraith Prism cooler on there, and I'm overclocked to 3.8ghz. If their B450 is as good, it will be fine. Just make sure it is updated to support the 3000 series CPUs before purchase. I think with those changes, you can get the 3600 and the 5700 also for about 25 dollars more than your second build.

If you really wanted to go cheap, you could always pick up the 2600 instead of the X and overclock it. It should go nearly as high on clocks as the X. Just get a cooler. Up to you.

Although a quick bit of reading says the 2600/2600x should not bottleneck the 5700. So if you're concerned, go with the 2600x, get the 5700, maybe bump the PSU up one step or so. Then sit on that build until the Ryzen 4000 series comes out and you could probably update your board and sell your 2600/2600x, and pick up a 4700 or something on that level to max your build out.

 

[HaMzAxSaRaB]

Do the first build. But these changes.

-drop the 2600x
-drop the hyper 212 evo

Keep that asrock board you have
Add the 3600 as you are talking about. It comes with a stock cooler already. So I would use that now. Later you can add a better cooler if desired.

Make sure they show the ASRock board as updated for the 3000 series. I have almost the same board, the ASRock AB350 Pro 4. I'm running a 1700x overclocked with an AMD Wraith Prism cooler on there, and I'm overclocked to 3.8ghz. If their B450 is as good, it will be fine. Just make sure it is updated to support the 3000 series CPUs before purchase. I think with those changes, you can get the 3600 and the 5700 also for about 25 dollars more than your second build.

If you really wanted to go cheap, you could always pick up the 2600 instead of the X and overclock it. It should go nearly as high on clocks as the X. Just get a cooler. Up to you.

Although a quick bit of reading says the 2600/2600x should not bottleneck the 5700. So if you're concerned, go with the 2600x, get the 5700, maybe bump the PSU up one step or so. Then sit on that build until the Ryzen 4000 series comes out and you could probably update your board and sell your 2600/2600x, and pick up a 4700 or something on that level to max your build out.

Do u think the temp on the rx5700 is fine i mean the numbers are scary,also that mobo only support second gen out off box
what about second build with the new RX5600XT for 280$

 

[ohio_buckeye]

All the b450 boards only support ryzen 1000 and 2000 from the get go. Sometimes the vendors update the bios of the boards. I would just be sure that the one you get has been updated before you purchase.

Numbers scary? Are you just meaning the pricing? If I remember, the 5700 is about the same performance as the 2060 super. So you are paying for the extra performance.

As far as the 5600xt, that card isn't out yet. But as far as the 1660 ti you had listed, here's a comparison to give an idea.

http://www.hwbench.com/vgas/radeon-rx-5700-vs-geforce-gtx-1660-ti

The 5700 is a better card. The wiser move might be go with the 3600 and the 1660ti, and use the money saved on a better power supply. But if you're going for a 1660ti, I would suggest have a look at the 1660 super which isn't far behind it and costs less.

What resolution are you gaming at and what refresh rate? If it's 1080p 144hz, or 1440p, I'd suggest the stronger card. But either way you go here, neither card is a slouch. I've got an rx 580 and it's still decent. Would like to upgrade, but it's not like I have to upgrade tomorrow.

As far as temps, I think gpus after normally good until 90-100 degrees. But that said, I don't know what case you have, but I would be sure that you have plenty of airflow around it. For example, I've got this case.

MasterBox MB511 RGB | Cooler Master

www.coolermaster.com

Not the rgb edition, but basically same layout. I have 3 fans for intake in front, 1 think in rear as intake. And 2 on top as exhaust. I'd have to check that. But mostly my stuff stays cool. But you can get things like pci slot cooling fans to put under the gpu, and use software to manually turn up fan speeds.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($198.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($102.75 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 580 8 GB Phantom Gaming X Video Card ($225.05 @ Vuugo)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($49.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($74.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $931.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-10 17:11 EST-0500

within your budget, I'd do this

 

[HaMzAxSaRaB]

All the b450 boards only support ryzen 1000 and 2000 from the get go. Sometimes the vendors update the bios of the boards. I would just be sure that the one you get has been updated before you purchase.

Numbers scary? Are you just meaning the pricing? If I remember, the 5700 is about the same performance as the 2060 super. So you are paying for the extra performance.

As far as the 5600xt, that card isn't out yet. But as far as the 1660 ti you had listed, here's a comparison to give an idea.

http://www.hwbench.com/vgas/radeon-rx-5700-vs-geforce-gtx-1660-ti

The 5700 is a better card. The wiser move might be go with the 3600 and the 1660ti, and use the money saved on a better power supply. But if you're going for a 1660ti, I would suggest have a look at the 1660 super which isn't far behind it and costs less.

What resolution are you gaming at and what refresh rate? If it's 1080p 144hz, or 1440p, I'd suggest the stronger card. But either way you go here, neither card is a slouch. I've got an rx 580 and it's still decent. Would like to upgrade, but it's not like I have to upgrade tomorrow.

As far as temps, I think gpus after normally good until 90-100 degrees. But that said, I don't know what case you have, but I would be sure that you have plenty of airflow around it. For example, I've got this case.

MasterBox MB511 RGB | Cooler Master

www.coolermaster.com

Not the rgb edition, but basically same layout. I have 3 fans for intake in front, 1 think in rear as intake. And 2 on top as exhaust. I'd have to check that. But mostly my stuff stays cool. But you can get things like pci slot cooling fans to put under the gpu, and use software to manually turn up fan speeds.

No the numbers i was talking about were about temp couse we all know nvidia cards run cooler (2060 and RX5700) temps

as for the RX5600 its the same price as the gtx 1660ti and better performance

yes i only play on 1080p 144hz

 

[HaMzAxSaRaB]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($198.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($102.75 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 580 8 GB Phantom Gaming X Video Card ($225.05 @ Vuugo)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($49.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($74.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $931.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-10 17:11 EST-0500

within your budget, I'd do this

Thanks for the list but i have storage and a case so i wanna focus the budget on cpu gpu and mobo (like ryzen 3600 / RX 5600XT / RX 5700)

 

[ohio_buckeye]

At 144hz then you want as much graphics horsepower as you can get then.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

a 3600, X570, 16gb of the least expensive sweet spot ram, and a 5700 exceeds your price:


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($251.25 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($167.95 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB Evoke OC Video Card ($429.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: DIYPC Zondda ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA GD (2019) 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ PC-Canada)
Total: $1073.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-13 14:11 EST-0500

the 5700 really NEEDS the 3000-series chip and a X570 for full use (as that combination is the only way to get PCIe 4.0 speeds).

to drop UNDER your budget, you'd need a 1660 or RX580, and the 580 is cheaper and comparable in capability, even an RX 2060 doesn't cut it.

Alternately, you could do something like this:


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($258.25 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: OLOy 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB TURBO Video Card ($430.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: DIYPC Zondda ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA GD (2019) 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ PC-Canada)
Total: $942.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-13 14:19 EST-0500