Question I need some help/advice

[MasonJG]

So I’m very new to the PC community and have only had a potato prebuilt for about a year, and am finally thinking about building my own.

However, i’m having some problems figuring certain things out.

I don’t know if the motherboard i’m thinking of buying (MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK) has enough fan headers for the amount of fans I want in my H9 Flow case (10, mainly for looks)..

The case comes with 4 fans.. (three F Series 120mm RGB Duo fans and one F120Q fan).

I am also buying an 360mm AIO water cooler which comes with 3 fans, and then another 3 corsair iCUE AR120 fans.

Getting to the point now, will I have to buy fan splitters, or perhaps a fan hub?

I’ll list my specs down here if anyone has anything else I should know, thank you!


CPU: i7-12700KF
GPU: 4070 Windforce OC
Cooler: ID-Cooling Dashflow 360
PSU: Corsair RM750x (80 Plus Gold)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR5 (2x16GB)
SSD: Samsung 980 Pro (2TB)

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Hi,

Welcome to the forums!

It would be advisable to manage things with a fan hub for easier control.

When you are looking to coordinate RGB and if you are particular about it, might be better to go with a single source/OEM to sync all the RGB. especially so if you are planning on having all the fans as addressable RGB and PWM.

Few things to note:

The Z690/LGA 1700 platform is end of life. You wont be able to upgrade to a newer CPU like the 15th gen.

You might want to consider 7800X3D and B650 combo for long term usage.

You should definitely go for an ATX 3.0 PSU. the RMx 750 is not ATX 3.0

The 4070 super is the better buy for a small increase in price.

If you post your question like this, we might be able to help you better:

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[ohio_buckeye]

Not sure what price point you are at on all this. If you are in the USA and have a microcenter close to you they’ve been offering a deal on the 12600kf, a z790 board and 16gb ram for $250. Looks like my store is out of stock, but the z790 pro WiFi in the bundle looks to have 6 fan headers and it appears 4 m.2 slots. Not sure on the tomahawk though.

The the cooler you might skip the aio and look at the Thermalright peerless assassin on Amazon. Big dual tower cooler, but only runs just over 30 to 35 bucks on Amazon. I’ve got one on my 12600kf and it keeps it nice and cool.

The amd option is great as well. Depends what you want really and what budget is.

 

[MasonJG]

Hi,

Welcome to the forums!

It would be advisable to manage things with a fan hub for easier control.

When you are looking to coordinate RGB and if you are particular about it, might be better to go with a single source/OEM to sync all the RGB. especially so if you are planning on having all the fans as addressable RGB and PWM.

Few things to note:

The Z690/LGA 1700 platform is end of life. You wont be able to upgrade to a newer CPU like the 15th gen.

You might want to consider 7800X3D and B650 combo for long term usage.

You should definitely go for an ATX 3.0 PSU. the RMx 750 is not ATX 3.0

The 4070 super is the better buy for a small increase in price.

If you post your question like this, we might be able to help you better:

*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice First off, respect where respect is due - this is an adaptation of the Animal's *How To Ask For New Build Advice* Sticky. I created this because there's a lot of posts nowadays asking for upgrade advice both on here and on the CPU forums, and I feel...

forums.tomshardware.com

Thank you for all the advice!

I’m not considering upgrading to a 15th gen CPU anytime soon, as that would be way out of my budget haha!

Would changing my CPU and Motherboard to the 7800X3D and the B650 still be compatible with everything else?

Concerning the PSU, would the Corsair RM850e be a better choice as its ATX 3.0 compliant.

I have also seen that the 4070 super is not that much more expensive at all, so I have changed to that, thank you!

Lastly, would you have any recommendations for a specific fan hub?

Again, thank you for all the help and recommendations!

 

[MasonJG]

Not sure what price point you are at on all this. If you are in the USA and have a microcenter close to you they’ve been offering a deal on the 12600kf, a z790 board and 16gb ram for $250. Looks like my store is out of stock, but the z790 pro WiFi in the bundle looks to have 6 fan headers and it appears 4 m.2 slots. Not sure on the tomahawk though.

The the cooler you might skip the aio and look at the Thermalright peerless assassin on Amazon. Big dual tower cooler, but only runs just over 30 to 35 bucks on Amazon. I’ve got one on my 12600kf and it keeps it nice and cool.

The amd option is great as well. Depends what you want really and what budget is.

I’m not from the USA, but I wish we had those deals in the UK!

The AIO is mainly for looks, whilst obviously providing cooling for my CPU.

I’m still on the fence on whether I want to go down the AMD or intel route, so i’ll have to think about it really.

Concerning my budget, it’s around £1700, so about $2100.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

and consumes half the wattage compared to the 12700k


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (£358.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LD360 72.04 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£110.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (£139.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£116.74 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Silicon Power XS70 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£117.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Palit GamingPro GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (£787.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Phanteks XT View ATX Mid Tower Case (£78.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£99.95 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1810.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-22 13:38 BST+0100


4070 Super : https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...tx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-zt-d40720e-10m

7900 GRE: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...-gre-16-gb-video-card-gv-r79gregaming-oc-16gd

 

[MasonJG]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

and consumes half the wattage compared to the 12700k


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (£358.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LD360 72.04 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£110.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (£139.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£116.74 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Silicon Power XS70 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£117.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Palit GamingPro GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (£787.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Phanteks XT View ATX Mid Tower Case (£78.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£99.95 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1810.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-22 13:38 BST+0100


4070 Super : https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...tx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-zt-d40720e-10m

7900 GRE: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...-gre-16-gb-video-card-gv-r79gregaming-oc-16gd

I just looked over this build and I am most likely going to buy all these parts, maybe with a few tweaks of preference, ensuring that they all work correctly.

Thank you very much for all your help!

 

[Lucky_SLS]

The advantage with the above setup is:

The fans of LD 360 AIO is daisy chain-able. So you would have to use just 1 fan header for all 3 AIO fans.

From the looks of it, the RGB connection is also a single cable that uses 1 RGB header.

USB 2.0 header for digital temp readout and a CPU pump header for the waterblock pump.

The rear fan goes to separate header and the side 2 fans go to a separate header.

You have 3 fan headers on the top of the B650 eagle mobo. Rear, AIO fans and side fans.

If you plan on having more fans on the bottom - above the PSU shroud, you have a fan header on the bottom.

You also have 3 x addressable RGB Gen2 LED strip headers on the mobo for all the RGB connecdtions. So you do not need a controller or a fan hub.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Sounds like you are getting your plan together. The one thing I would say on aio vs air cooling. The nice thing about air is that if something breaks, like one of the fans for example, you just unclip it and replace it with another. No damage. I have in the past worked on a PC though where the aio started leaking and fried a new gpu and the motherboard. And after a few years an aio can fail as well. Less chance of damage or failure with air. Like I said, air you just change the fan out and you are good. No need to worry about leaks, bubbles in system etc.

 

[Niklas_13]

I like the lian li fans the setup is easy if you buy a 3pack with the V2 controller and the L connect 3 software IMO is 100 times easier to use then Corsair < that shit makes my head hurt
Mines setup like this

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7rzVz3vZTyg?feature=share

There not cheap though, If you put them on the bottom get the reverse blades https://lian-li.com/product/uni-fan-sl-infinity-reverse-blade/