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SteveBeast said:
Do you have any recommendation for another antivirus program?
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I use Windows Defender. I realize it is usually not the best during an antivirus test. I avoid the seedy side of the internet like shady porn and keygen sites. I also avoid running suspicious .exe attachments that get emailed to me. Common sense is the best antivirus program. If you are dumb enough to run something called stupid.exe then you deserve to get a virus.

SteveBeast said:
spikes to 95 %
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Are you sure that monitoring program is reporting CPU usage accurately? Your new CPU has a unique number of cores and threads compared to any previous CPU. Perhaps your monitoring software needs an update. Uninstall Norton and see if you still get those spikes in CPU usage.
 
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ditch norton, ditch all the antiviruses... they do nothing.. windows does all that for you. i have not ran a antivirus since windows 7... i have not gotten a virus.... your over workloads could be related to windows directly or indirectly. i usually just reinstall windows for a fresh install.
 
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SteveBeast said:
Ah ok so I have to set the curve in the bios? I thought i could set it with NZXT CAM?
Ive sett all fans and the pump to CPU, and the Pump is set to 75 % steady. The Radiator Fans are set to Low Noise.

https://imgur.com/zQxQhxP
View: https://imgur.com/zQxQhxP


Heres a Picture how I set the Thermal Paste. I accidentally put a too small dot on the place where I have a red circle. Its much smaller than the other dots. I was thinking, that that could maybe support the higher temps?


2. Also I often get a notification by Norton "You have to act, NZXT CAM issued a warning for a high CPU Workload." And then it says "Minimum of 1 CPU is getting over 79% Workload." Is that normal for that kind of CPU? What can I do? I get this Issue now while downloading Updates for Microsoft FLight Simulator 2020.
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You had nothing wrong with the PC before you started,
Keep your anti-virus, your pump should be set to 100% not 75.

As a couple of people told you 85C for that processor is nothing bad it could probably run that temp 24/7 for years.

Careful who you listen to as anybody can post here.
 
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Ok thanks man deinstalling Norton seemd to help.
In Hogwarts Legacy, the CPU Workload seems to be constant now after playing 30 minutes, temperatures are also reasonable. Only thing which is a bit weird is, if I have Afterburner open it always shows around 65-70 Workload on 2 CPUs. I think CPU4 and 5. Isnt that too much for a processor like that?

And if im playing Cyberpunk, CPU workload also seems to be fine. But the temperatures are averaging around 70, with spikes to 90. Thats why Im a bit concerned. Trying to figure out a way to lower those temps.

@Jamesb8488

yeah but i just reinstalled windows yesterday 😀

@Zerk2012

Ok but when the pump is set to 100% its very noisy. Isnt there another way?

So you saying 85 C is fine. So running Cyberpunk with averaging 70 and spikes to 90 isnt any reason for concern? Because If i watch people benchmarking on youtube with my system and playing Cyberpunk, they have lower Temperatures. Like 60. But also a 280 AIO.


Or could it also be an issue that I applied a too small dot at one corner of the CPU? And lifted the CPU and then seated it back without renewing the thermal paste?
 
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SteveBeast said:
@uWebb429

Ok thanks man deinstalling Norton seemd to help.
In Hogwarts Legacy, the CPU Workload seems to be constant now after playing 30 minutes, temperatures are also reasonable. Only thing which is a bit weird is, if I have Afterburner open it always shows around 65-70 Workload on 2 CPUs. I think CPU4 and 5. Isnt that too much for a processor like that?

And if im playing Cyberpunk, CPU workload also seems to be fine. But the temperatures are averaging around 70, with spikes to 90. Thats why Im a bit concerned. Trying to figure out a way to lower those temps.

@Jamesb8488

yeah but i just reinstalled windows yesterday 😀

@Zerk2012

Ok but when the pump is set to 100% its very noisy. Isnt there another way?

So you saying 85 C is fine. So running Cyberpunk with averaging 70 and spikes to 90 isnt any reason for concern? Because If i watch people benchmarking on youtube with my system and playing Cyberpunk, they have lower Temperatures. Like 60. But also a 280 AIO.


Or could it also be an issue that I applied a too small dot at one corner of the CPU? And lifted the CPU and then seated it back without renewing the thermal paste?
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Nothing wrong with your temps.
You can't depend on a YouJunk video they could of had the CPU gimped by voltage and boost speed and also airflow in different cases / video card/ different AIO used can make a difference. Unless they are using the same EXACT parts and settings you can't compare with a video.

Most games only use a couple of cores so yes you would see higher usage on a couple, some games scale better and can use more cores but still the usage would not be balanced.
 
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Zerk2012 said:
Nothing wrong with your temps.
You can't depend on a YouJunk video they could of had the CPU gimped by voltage and boost speed and also airflow in different cases / video card/ different AIO used can make a difference. Unless they are using the same EXACT parts and settings you can't compare with a video.
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Ok nice so as long as im under 90 when gaming I should be fine .
Theres another issue tough.
The screen keeps randomly freezing since i installed the new mobo and cpu.
so like for example if i click on something nothing works. Could that be a memory issue?
 
SteveBeast said:
Ok nice so as long as im under 90 when gaming I should be fine .
Theres another issue tough.
The screen keeps randomly freezing since i installed the new mobo and cpu.
so like for example if i click on something nothing works. Could that be a memory issue?
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Did you do a fresh install of Windows when you changed? If not that could be the problem.
One of 3 things happens when you change the motherboard if you don't do a fresh install.
1. Everything works.
2. It don't work at all.
3. It works but you chase problems.
 
Zerk2012 said:
Did you do a fresh install of Windows when you changed? If not that could be the problem.
One of 3 things happens when you change the motherboard if you don't do a fresh install.
1. Everything works.
2. It don't work at all.
3. It works but you chase problems.
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yep did a fresh install and installed all the drivers etc.

could it be a faulty cpu or motherboard?
 
So guys one important question.

I reinstalled Windows 11. Then I started Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020.
All Settings on Ultra, LOD 200.

So I started a Flight in New York City with a Hornet Jet.
So basically what Im saying this is quite demanding.

So now when flying over New York City and especially Manhattan, the CPU heats up to 70-75 Celsius average with Peaks at 90. Thats too high right?

I reseated the CPU Pump and reapplied Thermal Paste.
I also set the PUMP to 100% and all the Rad Fans to Power.
So I dont know what I could do anymore? Should I go to an PC Expert?
 
uWebb429 said:
No it is not. That is a normal operating temperature for an Intel CPU. If it reaches 100C, it will thermal throttle and slow down such a tiny amount that many people never even notice a difference.

Intel CPUs do a fantastic job looking after themselves. There is no need to worry about the CPU temperature.
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Ok so ill trust you dont go to a pc expert and hope i will not burn my cpu.

But one question, of all these games MFS2020, Cyberpunk etc. my last CPU (i7 10700k`not overclocked) did never go above 55. Peaks maybe 60. And now this CPU is averaging at 70 and peaks at 90?
Should it not be the same with my Cooler ? (Kraken X63 280)
 
I have the k version of this CPU on my new rig. I havent pushed the system too hard, but I did see the package spike momentarily to 85 when doing an XTU stress test ( no overclock). It jets down to 20-30 instantly, so I guess my cooling is working ( peerless assassin). It kind of shocked me but Ive done moderate overclocks for years on air cooling and never fried a CPU on air. My case will get warmer when I put a GPU in and play some more intense games, so I will hold my breath for that…
 
Gururu said:
I have the k version of this CPU on my new rig. I havent pushed the system too hard, but I did see the package spike momentarily to 85 when doing an XTU stress test ( no overclock). It jets down to 20-30 instantly, so I guess my cooling is working ( peerless assassin). It kind of shocked me but Ive done moderate overclocks for years on air cooling and never fried a CPU on air. My case will get warmer when I put a GPU in and play some more intense games, so I will hold my breath for that…
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Yeah but how come Ive got 70-75 average with peaks to 90 in mfs 2020?
 
I did see that you reseated the cooler without cleaning up the previous spread.If this was before you checked numbers,it might be worth it to redo with fresh paste. I would do that just to eliminate the variable. i dont know if that is terribly troublesome.
 
well, like i said... turn the volts down..... also when i was in bios yesterday i was tinkering with my stuff in there.. and i messed with the fans clicked off some <Mod Edit> i sh ouldnt have.. needless to say.. i turned off smart fan which allows the fans to work at the speed they need... try posting a picture of your voltage with like core temp it should show all temps voltage frequency etc of your CPU another app to to use is CPUID HWMonitor and CPUID cpu-z... cpu-z has a feature available on the free version that will stress test and stop the second you press it.. quite useful to test your temps and see what frequency you will run at. i suggesst getting all 3 programs when to test out lowering your voltage... once i see a picture of your BIOS with a phone picture and a screen shot of all 3 programs open after a 3 min stress test... i can probably help you adjust your voltage or anyone of us can..
 
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Jamesb8488 said:
well, like i said... turn the volts down..... also when i was in bios yesterday i was tinkering with my stuff in there.. and i messed with the fans clicked off some <Mod Edit> i sh ouldnt have.. needless to say.. i turned off smart fan which allows the fans to work at the speed they need... try posting a picture of your voltage with like core temp it should show all temps voltage frequency etc of your CPU another app to to use is CPUID HWMonitor and CPUID cpu-z... cpu-z has a feature available on the free version that will stress test and stop the second you press it.. quite useful to test your temps and see what frequency you will run at. i suggesst getting all 3 programs when to test out lowering your voltage... once i see a picture of your BIOS with a phone picture and a screen shot of all 3 programs open after a 3 min stress test... i can probably help you adjust your voltage or anyone of us can..
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So if im Using Smart Fan in the Bios I shut turn off NZXT CAM right?

So I just did a screenshot while playing MFS2020:

maybe it helps already, but the cpu temps are only temporarily, it spikes a lot to 70-80

https://imgur.com/a/6kbxzPr
View: https://imgur.com/a/6kbxzPr
 
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and also im a bit confused because uWebb said


No it is not. That is a normal operating temperature for an Intel CPU. If it reaches 100C, it will thermal throttle and slow down such a tiny amount that many people never even notice a difference.

So I guess its fine? Or should I be undervolting? its difficult to understand I dont know whats best
 
John Chesterfield said:
You're worrying about nothing.
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Ok but spikes to 90? And averaging 70-75 in MFS2020?
I had like 55 averaging in MFS2020 with my i7 10700k. And all Benchmark Videos I watch on YT are also averaging around 55 with the 14700.
I know someone said I can only compare if they have the identical setup than me,.
But i have a bequit pure base 500dx case, 3 fans insede, and the kraken. It should be enough airflow
 
SteveBeast said:
So if im Using Smart Fan in the Bios I shut turn off NZXT CAM right?

So I just did a screenshot while playing MFS2020:

maybe it helps already, but the cpu temps are only temporarily, it spikes a lot to 70-80

https://imgur.com/a/6kbxzPr
View: https://imgur.com/a/6kbxzPr
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Well 80c is fine. 90 to 100 is concerning. Like I said you should use cpu-z and stress test the cpu for 2 min it shouldn't reach 100 if you are running a aio cooler.. looks like your sa voltage is 1.384 and your io 1.299.. if you REALLY WANT TO....

Firstly, create a profile in bios of your current set up before making changes
Reduce your sa to 1.225v and your io down to 1.010.v. Reduce your cpu frequency to its new max which might be 47 which is 4.7ghz and your ring ratio to 45. Remember this is at your own discretion. I am confident that this will not damage your cpu. It'll Reduce the power to your cpu which should reduce its max clock speed to be alittle slower and might reduce your peak temps to help you sleep at night. But you have 20 cores So I doubt you will notice any difference in performance.
 
Jamesb8488 said:
Well 80c is fine. 90 to 100 is concerning. Like I said you should use cpu-z and stress test the cpu for 2 min it shouldn't reach 100 if you are running a aio cooler.. looks like your sa voltage is 1.384 and your io 1.299.. if you REALLY WANT TO....

Firstly, create a profile in bios of your current set up before making changes
Reduce your sa to 1.225v and your io down to 1.010.v. Reduce your cpu frequency to its new max which might be 47 which is 4.7ghz and your ring ratio to 45. Remember this is at your own discretion. I am confident that this will not damage your cpu. It'll Reduce the power to your cpu which should reduce its max clock speed to be alittle slower and might reduce your peak temps to help you sleep at night. But you have 20 cores So I doubt you will notice any difference in performance.
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OK so i think about it. What about peaks to 85 is that still concerning? So as I said those are only peaks,most of the time when playing its around 65-70. Should I still be concerned?
honestly id rather go to an pc expert than do it myself, just to be sure.
 
SteveBeast said:
OK so i think about it. What about peaks to 85 is that still concerning? So as I said those are only peaks,most of the time when playing its around 65-70. Should I still be concerned?
honestly id rather go to an pc expert than do it myself, just to be sure.
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Like I said you should get all 3 programs run them use cpu-z to stress test your cpu to its max if you can hold it for 3 minutes and not go past 85 then your fine.
 
Jamesb8488 said:
Like I said you should get all 3 programs run them use cpu-z to stress test your cpu to its max if you can hold it for 3 minutes and not go past 85 then your fine.
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So your basically saying running all those 3 programs at the same time while doing the stress test?
But what if it reaches 100 or even over 100, do I have to stop the test then immediatly? And can it already have done damage to my cpu by then?
 
SteveBeast said:
So your basically saying running all those 3 programs at the same time while doing the stress test?
But what if it reaches 100 or even over 100, do I have to stop the test then immediatly? And can it already have done damage to my cpu by then?
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Yes, all 3. Core temp will show the temps on all cores. Cpuz is for the stress test and hwmonitor shows everything live and the peaks and the lows while idle. And remember cpuz will stress your cpu harder than any game without the hassle of loading a game that will never stress a cpu out.
 
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