i7 8700k or i7 9700k?

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Is the difference in the performance between the 8700k and the 9700k vast?
because I've been watching some videos online and the results are different in each video like someone gets a 5-10+fps with the 9700k and others get with the 8700k better fps!
Should I buy 8700k or 9700k
(for gaming)
The specs of the pc I'm going to build:
Motherboard: MSI z37m
GPU: RTX 2080Ti
PSU: 750watts 80+ gold
Ram: 2x8 3000mhz (or 3200mhz didn't decide)

is it worth it to pay extra for the 9700k?
and the i7 9700k gets warmer than the i7 8700k does.
 
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the major thing to remember is the 9700K is the first i7 that doesn't have hyperthreading unlike the 8700K that has 6 cores but has 12 threads because of hyperthreading. although the 9700K does add 2 more cores bringing to up to 8 pure cores

the 9700K should run cooler because intel started using solder instead of thermal paste under the heat spreader on the CPU
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What resolution and refresh rate of monitor are you planning to run. That's what probably makes the determination here. More FPS isn't necessarily an essential factor, or even desirable, depending on what kind of display and settings you plan to run and what TYPES of games you plan to play.

And you can't really judge anything by what some random person gets. You have no idea what the variations are in configuration. One might have a HDD while the other has an SSD, or one might be running a different group of settings, different card, different memory configuration, older chipset drivers, newer chipset drivers, different bios version. There are way to many variables to say X processor is better because I saw three guys with an older CPU getting better FPS than somebody with a newer one (That probably wasn't configured properly with the latest drivers and bios version or was running slow memory in single channel operation).
 
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Hi
My monitor is 144Hz 1080p (yes I know it’s way too overkill for rtx 2080ti) I play most modern games and the latest games released and I also want to be able to run RTX games with at least a stable 60fps I’m 100% not interested in higher resolution and playing on 1080p is more than enough for me.
So based on that which cpu should I get?
 
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the major thing to remember is the 9700K is the first i7 that doesn't have hyperthreading unlike the 8700K that has 6 cores but has 12 threads because of hyperthreading. although the 9700K does add 2 more cores bringing to up to 8 pure cores

the 9700K should run cooler because intel started using solder instead of thermal paste under the heat spreader on the CPU
 
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There is practically no difference between the 9700k and the 8700k in any game title I can find at 1080p. The results in the following review show pretty much what I've seen across the board for almost all titles at that resolution. So I'd say EITHER of them is fine, and I'd go with whichever is less expensive. Overclocking does not seem to offer any benefit on the 9700k so the fact that it uses solder instead of TIM is of no consequence whatsoever, unlike what we had hoped for on this architecture. Basically, it's almost pointless. Maybe a 3-5fps difference at the maximum clock speed you could realistically achieve without extreme measures, and that would last long anyhow.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1730-intel-core-i9-9900k-core-i7-9700k/page4.html

So no, it is not worth it to pay extra for the 9700k. Even the 9900k does not appear to be worth the extra expense. At least, not at this time. Maybe down the road it will pay for itself, but I wouldn't hold my breath that long.
 
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Obviously, you either didn't look at the review I linked, or have no use for reviews, because that's not even remotely accurate.

At ALL resolutions, on ALL titles, the 2700x is FAR behind both those CPUs.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1730-intel-core-i9-9900k-core-i7-9700k/page4.html

If you have some proof to the contrary, that is definitive, and not just a sample of one, I'd be glad to look at it. But everything that I've looked at, and I've looked at ALL the reviews on the Coffee lake/refresh vs Ryzen gaming comparisons, says otherwise.

About the only thing Ryzen has going for it is that it is cheaper, AND is generally "good enough" for most 60fps gaming. It falls dramatically short when higher frame rates are required. It also is a good choice against equivalently priced Intel models. Those two CPUs are NOT equivalently priced.
 
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Only somebody with no first hand knowledge of what goes into those reviews would believe that. And in light of the fact that you think Youtube is an accurate source of information, rather than the results of stringent testing done by those professionals in the industry who make their living off of this, I'm going to leave it at that because it's obvious to me and anybody else who reads your comment that you won't be inclined to believe anything that isn't already a part of what you've made up in your mind as being the truth. Sad.
 
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