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I agree that people should respect the fact that Tom's Hardware is just trying to provide you with the most complete information, but I have used Macs from several different generations, including new ones, and I was not impressed. They are very fun and easy to use, which is great for some users, but I have found them to be completely useless for what I use a computer for. Linux is by far the superior to both Mac and PC, but PC is better than Mac. The only advantage Apple has over Microsoft is that they have few problems. This is only because there are a lot more PCs than Macs, and hackers and cybercriminals spend their time trying to figure out how to hack a PC, not a Mac, because there is a larger field of information to be had, and nobody is going to waste their time trying to figure out how to give a Mac a virus. No one cares. Just let the Mac users have their toy, and let real users use Linux to avoid the PC problems.
 
[citation][nom]Bruceification73[/nom]I agree that people should respect the fact that Tom's Hardware is just trying to provide you with the most complete information, but I have used Macs from several different generations, including new ones, and I was not impressed. They are very fun and easy to use, which is great for some users, but I have found them to be completely useless for what I use a computer for. Linux is by far the superior to both Mac and PC, but PC is better than Mac. The only advantage Apple has over Microsoft is that they have few problems. This is only because there are a lot more PCs than Macs, and hackers and cybercriminals spend their time trying to figure out how to hack a PC, not a Mac, because there is a larger field of information to be had, and nobody is going to waste their time trying to figure out how to give a Mac a virus. No one cares. Just let the Mac users have their toy, and let real users use Linux to avoid the PC problems.[/citation]

You make some good points but you don't seem to understand the PC/MAC schism. The whole idea of what a PC is has evolved and as others have pointed out by original definitions a Mac is a PC. My interpretation of the way the terms are generally used today would be a PCs encompassing all non-Mac branded computers. You seem to classify a computer from an OS standpoint, however a computer or laptop running linux/bsd/windows(but not a mac running it)/etc. should be classified as a PC for arguments sake.
 
Quit it.

If you don't like the headline, read something else. No one's forcing anyone to take a bite. Besides, we do this as a service to technology-enthusiasts, not just "Windows-PC-Only-Enthusiast."
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Done~! I just changed my home page because asking people not to post there feelings about an artical is just stupd stupid stupid. I've never done any apple bashing and I don't agree with alot of what people say about this sight due to apple articles but to say don't post anti apple coments is just wrong. I want there opinion! if you don't, read something else. No one's forcing anyone to take a bite.

I had respect for this sight untill I read this garbage.

Now you look like a cry baby to me.

Hello guru3d
 
You can keep marking me down -1000 all day. If you think the writers are so bias then fuck off to another tech website where they are SOOOOOOO much more impartial, in the meantime, why don't you send in hate mail to Alisyn Camerota for reading stories you don't like on Fox news you fucking pinhead!
 
You can keep marking me down -1000 all day. If you think the writers are so bias then fuck off to another tech website where they are SOOOOOOO much more impartial, in the meantime, why don't you send in hate mail to Alisyn Camerota for reading stories you don't like on Fox news you fucking pinhead!
 
*sigh* ya know, you Windows fanboys just aren't worth it.

You just wanna hate, you don't want diversity, and you think liberals suck -- ya see Tom's writers and editors -- this IS your audience, scary isn't it.

I now actually feel sorry for Tom's writers/editors -- who would want to write for this type of audience. I can only hope Tom's writers/editors find a more educated audience as you progress thru life and with your career. Good luck and best wishes to you all.

 
Are you kidding? Is this an article telling your viewership how to appropriately read your site and react to the articles? To be honest I don't even really hate Macs (I don't use them nor will I ever) I hate the articles you write. I think a fair amount of the Tom's audience feels the same way. The headlines are usually misleading, the articles contain a ton of factual errors (along with shoddy research coupled with spelling errors and other mistakes) and are written from a standpoint that a lot of people don't even take them seriously anymore. This is a big industry that you are competing in. Is there any belief that you guys can continually write poor articles, criticize your audience's reaction to those articles, and keep that audience?
 
I would agree with this, if the complaints I had read were about macs and mac users. They weren't. The complaints are over the use of misleading article titles and less than thorough research done into some of the apple related articles recently, all of which have been produced by one author.

The readers of Tom's Hardware, in my opinion at least, have every right to criticize undesirable decreases in journalistic standards in their favorite tech news site.
 
[citation][nom]wasteoftime[/nom]...To be honest I don't even really hate Macs (I don't use them nor will I ever)...[/citation]

You do understand what you just said right? You don't hate Macs but you've never used one nor will you ever? Sure sounds like you hate Macs. How are you able to determine that you would NEVER use a Mac unless you had some real experience to make such a statement? So you've judged something you have no experience with (and admit it) -- you see, that's the problem -- it's called a closed mind, pre-Judgement. Closed minds are often full of hate. Hate is a dead end road with A LOT of insecurity behind it and lack of knowledge.

[citation][nom]wasteoftime[/nom]...I think a fair amount of the Tom's audience feels the same way....[/citation]

You have no clue what Tom's audience feels -- if so, show me a survey of Tom's readership, show me how many members participated in the survey. Again, making big assumptions with no supporting evidence.

[citation][nom]wasteoftime[/nom]...and are written from a standpoint that a lot of people don't even take them seriously anymore....[/citation]

This doesn't even make any sense, how on earth are you able to determine this? -- again whos are these "a lot of people"? Is this more survey's that don't exist, more assumptions?

The articles are lacking in areas, and I may not agree with some of them, or they do have some truths but it's not the entire picture. But regardless, I certainly don't HATE anyone at Tom's (and BTW, it is guys and gals if you bothered to look at the picture).

But this just amplifies the maturity of the Windows fanboy posters here at Tom's -- hating someone because they have a different opinion is childish and insecure. If you have a strong opinion about something, bring the facts and debate -- but if you debate from a closed mind, your debates are ALWAYS going to end the same way.

I don't hate Windows 7, it has a lot of issues and I think OSX is a better operating system, but that does NOT mean I hate Windows 7. It means that I feel Windows 7 is really just Vista SP3 with GUI face lift -- and if you look under the hood, that's exactly what it is - so if folks don't like Vista, they probably will not like Windows 7. I've brought a ton of real tech to my debates, but I still use Windows 7, I use Vista, I use WinXP, I use OSX, I use Linux. It's not a religion -- it's an OS.

And for the record, you can overclock Macs and more often than not (yes I have tested this myself), Linux and OSX are a LOT more stable on overclocked hardware.
 
You are bashing the bashers, then you are no different you are a bash basher 😀
 
All article bashing a side...

Seriously if any of the Toms Hardware editors and writers want to not be bashed because of the articles they write then either don't allow people to post comments on them or don't write them at all. If you write an article that you are proud of and other people don't like it who gives a flying turd.

As long as get stressed out on people making bad posts on your articles you'll never be happy. So do whatever you're doing and who cares what do you have to lose besides readers and sponsers...
 
Mac's cost most - FALSE
hmmm... I think it all depends on price / performance and what will you do with your notebook/mac. If you used it only for office work, then why you waste $900? You can buy $500 netbook that can play HD movie and editing picture with Adobe Photoshop.

Mac's can't be upgraded - FALSE
I agree with this.
compare with PC who is cheaper? my motto is price/performance.

Mac's can't do games - FALSE
I also agree with this one.
But who's got more game?
who's got more fps?
 
go to apple.com and select a mac pro

then head to newegg.com and pick out parts to build a system with the same specs

max pro $3299

pc build with the same specs (add $20-50 for a good sound card)
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2245/macbuild.jpg
$1617.39 including shipping

the mac is more than 50% more expensive


tomshardware why don't you just do this, borrow a mac pro (don't buy one as we cant have you going broke because you decided to buy a mac pro)

then build a PC with the same specs (you wont be able to find the same motherboard but you can get one thats pretty close)

then benchmark them and do the usual price vs performance that you usually do

then you can tell us once and for all if there really is a mac tax
 
[citation][nom]smlong[/nom]This is nothing new and it's the one FACT that Mac/Apple users attempt, and fail, to refute constantly.Oh wait, Toms already did a "study" like this and concluded that there is no Apple tax didn't they?[/citation]

They charge a premium for a product that can be had with essentially the same parts for up to 50% less. They are successful because they have convinced both uninformed consumers and image conscious buyers that they are providing something of value for the added cost. A lot of other computer manufacturers have products that offer inadequate price and performance comparable to what Apple offers. However most of these other manufacturers also offer products that are a good value and thats why they don't get as much hate for it.
 
Hmmm, I work with someone who owns only Macs. She is the reason why I have a job. She can't work her office pc properly. So I bought her a kids keyboard with over sized colored keys. Have you listened to the edited Mac conference? They use "amazing" easy" "awesome" beautiful" more times than an inexperienced speaker says "uhhh" And Pope Steve Jobs needs to come back to mother earth. Steve Balmer is only slightly less annoying. And Vista haters that never used it annoy me more than both combined. Nvidia Ceo Jensen (Huang, Hung, Haung, I really don't care) annoys me too, but I still use Nvidia cards. Dang it I own an ipod too... And a vista machine. Seems to me I still love the things I hate.

There now, I ranted about everything that annoys me. Oh wait, I think this editor made the most annoying article on the planet... But I still read it, man that means I'm retarded too. I AM A FIRM BELIEVER OF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY BASHING BASED ON NO MERIT. Just because it makes me feel just a little bit better about myself when I read it How bout that for a 1up on the pointless post?
 
Not all hatred is irrational. Bill Gates and his father are undeniably corrupt, and they have tremendous political clout, making them even more dangerous. As a former teacher in Bill Gates' home town, I'll never forgive that SOB for his role in exploiting children and ruining some of the city's best schools.

Of course, your website focuses more on the technical side of things than politics. Still, I can't ignore a force that has done so many bad things - things that are bad on such a vast scale.

Which isn't to say that Apple is perfect or Steve Jobs is a saint. They obviously have problems, too. But upgrading from a PC to a Mac is one of the smartest moves I've ever made. In the meantime, my hatred for Microsoft has inspired me to put some information online, primarily at www.billysoft.com and the Google Knol "Bill Gates: A Critical Biography."

I think it's absolutely delicious that Apple is thriving in the middle of an economic train wreck while Microsoft is taking hit after hit. I only wish M$ would fall haster and harder.
 
[citation][nom]David Boobtube[/nom]Blah blah blah, a bunch of stupid sh!te[/citation]

As I said, Linux is better than both, so why debate whether Mac is better than PC? Just buy Linux and become more productive (also find inner peace). *wink*
 
to Toms:
if you decide to delete comments, for the betterment of the community here at Toms, i hope you'll notify via PM or email the commenter(s) as to why their comments were moderated out. even if its just a simple note that -username- isnt following community guidelines for -postname- so that we can each learn what counts as useful and what perhaps counts as a personal attack, as opposed to a technology gripe. with a link to your community guidelines.

i suggest this because sometimes my comments just disappear ... and i'm not sure if its me, if its you, some tech glitch or something i said. i've noted this especially this morning (about 9am US/Central time).

communicating with us helps us learn.

nice post, btw.

cheers.
 
I hate mac because:

1. Deceiving smug tv ads
2. Locked down OS. Mac users like to bag on the Windows license and ignore the fact that the MacOS will ONLY work on a mac. What's more restrictive than that? Nothing.
3. You can't do more on a mac than you can do on Windows. Windows has way way way way more programs covering virtually everything you'd wand to do.
4. Macs are priced more than they should be. I guess it's because they are pretty. Waste of money.
5. Jobs is a douchbag.
 
[citation][nom]backbydemand[/nom]You can keep marking me down -1000 all day. If you think the writers are so bias then fuck off to another tech website where they are SOOOOOOO much more impartial, in the meantime, why don't you send in hate mail to Alisyn Camerota for reading stories you don't like on Fox news you fucking pinhead![/citation]
I have noted that even now people are saying "I dont hate macs I just hate Toms reporting", so I refer to my above statement, if you dont like the journalistic integrity of the Tom's team please just fuck off the Gizmondo or Guru3D or Techrepublic or one of a million other websites, but pissing and moaning about the writers but continuing to read them? Makes you a bit of a prick really...
 
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