Question I'm having issues with a new PC build ?

[i_Dabble]

Hello!
I built a PC for my aunt back in 2013 and have now just built her next machine, so forgive my lack of knowledge as it seems things have moved on a long way since then. I seem to be having a few issues - well I think they are issues!

Specs:
Motherboard: MSI B850 Gaming WIFI Plus
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600
Ram: Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR5 (2 x 16GB kit)
HDD: WD SN850X 1TB M.2
PSU: Corsair CX550


Possible Issues:
First Boot: The first time I powered it up, the fans were spinning but there were no beeps, the screen was blank but after 5 minutes it came on - since then it fires up straight away when powered up, is this normal?

No Beeps: The motherboard in the old PC I built makes a short beep each time it is powered up, should the new motherboard do that? I can't see a buzzer on the board and there isn't a speaker in the box so am worried that if there was an issue I wouldn't hear any beeps.

USB Ports: In the BIOS, the USB mouse and keyboard seem to work fine plugged in at the back but when I go to install Windows they don't work, even when I plug them into other ports on the back they still don't work, however the mouse worked when I plugged it into the front USB port, after installing Windows the mouse and keyboard worked when plugged into the ports on the back, is this normal?

BIOS Changes Not Saving: To install Windows, I connected a SATA DVD drive and changed the boot order in the BIOS to boot from that first and then disabled the 2nd-7th boot devices - that seemed to save fine and Windows installed without an issue, I then went back to the BIOS and changed the first boot to the M.2, saved, shut down, disconnected the DVD drive, but when I switched the PC back on, it just took me to the BIOS home screen, after switching it off and back on the same thing happened, then I noticed the settings hadn't changed, so I changed them again and saved them - still the same issue, I tried loading the BIOS defaults and saving, when I looked at the boot order they had gone back to their original settings but when I saved and rebooted - they had gone back to what I changed them to, after an hour of fiddling I reconnected the DVD drive and re loaded windows and somehow everything was fine again, any changes I make in the BIOS seem to be saving fine, has anyone experienced anything like that?


The first PC I built never had any teething troubles and still works today but after these issues with the new build I don't have much confidence that it will be as reliable, so am hoping to get some advice/suggestions from those who know more about these things than me.

P.S sorry for the hugeee post

 

[punkncat]

First boot issue is normal for RAM training on Ryzen.

Lots of new mobo don't come with a speaker. You may be able to add one if you wish.

USB 3 ports often won't work correctly until Windows loads in, not unusual.

Did you install Windows with multiple drives present or ONLY the destination OS drive connected?

 

[dingo07]

Have you followed proper procedures to build a computer...?
1-Build complete MB (install CPU, memory, add Boot Drive) making sure there's no bent pins on the MB and the memory is in the correct slots
1a- if the MB has on-board video start the Windows install process, even if you have a GPU card to install
2-install Windows and all updates
2a- install all drivers for the MB

Once that's all done and the machine boots normally into Windows, you can consider that setup your Baseline Windows install. Test network speed if you wish using a browser and speedtest.net
Now Install your GPU and drivers for it.

At this point there shouldn't be anything else to do unless you have another drive to install for storage. Install games, etc and go about your day!

That's my personal process, not saying it's perfect, but it's methodical and you'll know if something is wrong if you follow it, and at what step it'll be easier to diagnose the issue.

 

[i_Dabble]

First boot issue is normal for RAM training on Ryzen.

Lots of new mobo don't come with a speaker. You may be able to add one if you wish.

USB 3 ports often won't work correctly until Windows loads in, not unusual.

Did you install Windows with multiple drives present or ONLY the destination OS drive connected?

Thanks for the info, that puts my mind at ease a little,

The only drives installed when installing Windows was the DVD drive and the M.2 SSD. is it possible that something to do with Windows could stop the BIOS from saving the changes made?

Have you followed proper procedures to build a computer...?
1-Build complete MB (install CPU, memory, add Boot Drive) making sure there's no bent pins on the MB and the memory is in the correct slots

I have, the building part is the easy bit for me, no bent pins and ram in the correct slots,

2-install Windows and all updates

I've done that and in the end it seemed fine but I feel I need to find out why the BIOS stopped saving the changes I made to it before I hand it over to my aunt in-case the issue comes back

 

[dingo07]

Either you don't have the BIOS set up properly for the M.2 drive, or the installation of windows did not complete properly. Windows should know that the boot drive is the M.2, and it's clear it doesn't not because it didn't boot into Windows. Several things could be wrong, but the boot record doesn't appear to being created and/or modified by the Windows install.

If this is a brand new build, have you contacted MSI to see if it's a BIOS bug, perhaps you need to update it. Or perhaps your method isn't a method they suggest to install Windows.

 

[Teknoman2]

Here's what you need to do
Make a USB stick into the installation medium, do not use the DVD
Physically disconnect all drives except the M.2
Reset BIOS
Insert the stick
Start windows installation and delete all partitions in the M.2, then have the installer create a new partition on it and install windows
At the first restart during installation, remove the USB stick
All files should be in the M.2 and the installation will continue from that.
Your problem (most probably) is that for some reason, the boot sector was not made on the drive where you installed windows. Was the windows installation DVD original or a copy you made yourself? If its a copy then the DVD is still open to be written on and the installer may have made the boot sector on it instead of the M.2

 

[i_Dabble]

Thanks everyone for your replies and sorry for the late one, the notification email had gone into the spam folder.

@Teknoman2, I made the CD myself using the Windows tool, I'll make a Windows USB stick tonight and then try your suggestion tomorrow and see what happens

 

[TeleRob]

I would not be able to stand not having a speaker. The speaker goes on JFP2 and you you can get the speaker from Amazon, search "Motherboard Speakers" or take the old one out of the old computer.

 

[CountMike]

Which Windows are you installing ? DVD is too small capacity for full and normal W10 and W11 installation, some compromises had to be made for it to work from a DVD, in addition it may be a very early version with built in drivers for new HW.
Is BIOS set to have all features W11 demands enabled? Even if you are installing W10 make sure that UEFI and TPM are enabled so you can upgrade to W11 at your leisure. Another helpful thing is to have PC connected to internet by wire/cable so installation can pick up updates and basic drivers that might be missing.