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Which isn't relevant to the demographic that is likely to be buying this product. The average 5090 owner isn't likely going to be living in a 40 year old mobile home with shoe laces for wiring. We're also not nearing the limit of 15A circuits just yet. There is time for more of the housing market to catch up.
Not sure where you live, but there are tons of nice houses that are over 20 years old. My house is over 20 years old and I am the demographic that would buy this product.
 
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Its too bad that nobody has come up with a PowerVR-like efficiency gamechanger yet for modern GPUs, because it seems like we're heading to 1000W+ GPUs with no end in sight to keep advancing performance.
 
Not sure where you live, but there are tons of nice houses that are over 20 years old. My house is over 20 years old and I am the demographic that would buy this product.
Not sure why you insist on taking every point to the extreme as if there are zero exceptions ever. The average user and 100% of users are not interchangeable terms. 20 years isn't some magical number when the 1st 20A circuit was used in a US house. That's just a rough estimate about when they became more common.
The NEC code has required 20A circuits in bathrooms since 1999, which is 25 years ago. Not every state adopted the code in 1999, which is why I went with 20 years. 20A circuits are nothing new in US houses despite how outdated your "nice" house seems to be.
 
Yes here in New Zealand (and also Australia and Europe), we use a 240V wall standard (which is safer, since it's the amps that kill you). They usually put a 10A fuse on a wall socket (for a total draw of 2,400W), but you can slap a 20A fuse on it no worries (and many people do, if the fuse keeps popping on that loop) to give an eye watering 4,800W on a single wall socket),
50v can kill you under the right conditions. 50w 60w choose your weapon. It is not safe of safer. AC is safer to get knocked on your rear end than DC. Why? Sign-wave compared to constant voltages.
 
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We aren't really there yet though (although from a price standpoint, I agree with you). Games still don't really come close to "real life" yet. I saw an AI video of a Grand Theft Game made to look photo realistic and it was clear we have a ways to go. No one will be able to afford it though.
I don’t know, have you looked at the “Unrecord” trailer. It gets pretty photo realistic at times…
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=otu_iFTivQw&t=129s&pp=2AGBAZACAQ%3D%3D
 
Not sure why you insist on taking every point to the extreme as if there are zero exceptions ever. The average user and 100% of users are not interchangeable terms. 20 years isn't some magical number when the 1st 20A circuit was used in a US house. That's just a rough estimate about when they became more common.
The NEC code has required 20A circuits in bathrooms since 1999, which is 25 years ago. Not every state adopted the code in 1999, which is why I went with 20 years. 20A circuits are nothing new in US houses despite how outdated your "nice" house seems to be.
Because your statement that most houses can support 20A is absurd. That is the only point I am calling out because it was dumb. At most, only 20% of houses that have ever been built in the US are 20 years old or less. Have some data: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041889/construction-year-homes-usa/

So 80% of the houses will not support your claim. That is not "most" houses.
 
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US is 1500 watts per outlet. You can technically go a bit higher, but that is when you risk running into issues with older wiring and tripping circuit breakers.
Newer houses like mine come with 20 amp circuits. Older houses would need to validate wire gage to see if they can be upgraded to 20 amp service, or the wires would have to be replaced.
 
Because your statement that most houses can support 20A is absurd. That is the only point I am calling out because it was dumb. At most, only 20% of houses that have ever been built in the US are 20 years old or less. Have some data: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041889/construction-year-homes-usa/

So 80% of the houses will not support your claim. That is not "most" houses.
That's some clever BS'ing you're doing. I never said most houses in the US. Quote me where I said that. You said that, then tried to counterargue the point.
 
Wow. I had not seen that. If that is actually real it is impressive.
Trust me it is, in fact another company stole their idea and graphics style and quickly rushed out a multiplayer game called “BodyCam” that you can download and play. These guys aren’t as good as the Unrecord developers but they get about 80% there compared to Unrecord’s “photo-realistic” adjacent graphics. Unrecord is going to be a single player game in the likes of Swat 4 and Ready or Not. I’m eagerly waiting for its release.
 
That's some clever BS'ing you're doing. I never said most houses in the US. Quote me where I said that. You said that, then tried to counterargue the point.
You stated that 2200 watts was going to be enough for quite awhile in a blanket statement, like most people have access to that (they don't). Then you stated that people that have houses older than 20 years are not the demographic of people who buy expensive video cards (apparently insinuating that people living in houses over 20 years old are all poor computer illiterate cavemen). To quote you directly: "The average 5090 owner isn't likely going to be living in a 40 year old mobile home with shoe laces for wiring. "
 
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50v can kill you under the right conditions. 50w 60w choose your weapon. It is not safe of safer. AC is safer to get knocked on your rear end than DC. Why? Sign-wave compared to constant voltages.
Yes, because it's the amps that kill you. So if you have a low voltage outlet (e.g. 110 or 50V, you will need a large amount of amps (20A or 40A respectively) to provide the same ~2,000W power as a higher voltage outlet - 10A usually being enough for a 240V). Electric fences are usually 5,000V - perfectly safe since they run them at 0.1 amps.
 
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You're not going to have any issues with a 1200W PSU for years to come. A 600w peak GPU is not going to change anything.
Rumored dual 12vhpwr connectors might … psu only has one. But this is rumor. Sure about that 600w GPU + say 7950x rated 230w but can peak at 300w, that’s 900w alone … throw in ram,, ssd/hdd , mboard itself, cooling … that can easily be another 100-200w, and then need for 20% head room … 1200w aeems bare minimum … you’ll need 1350-1500 to operate safely?
 
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Rumored dual 12vhpwr connectors might … psu only has one. But this is rumor. Sure about that 600w GPU + say 7950x rated 230w but can peak at 300w, that’s 900w alone … throw in ram,, ssd/hdd , mboard itself, cooling … that can easily be another 100-200w, and then need for 20% head room … 1200w aeems bare minimum … you’ll need 1350-1500 to operate safely?
PSU peak efficiency is typically 50-75% load. No home user is going to be running sustained loads above that with a 1200W PSU unless they run Furmark and Prime 95 at the same time all day long. Spikes up to 100% of the PSU rating are fine. When Nvidia rates the 4090 at 450W TDP. That's peak power draw, not typical power draw. It's practically impossible to max out all the components in your PC at once when gaming or any application a home user would come across.
 
PSU peak efficiency is typically 50-75% load. No home user is going to be running sustained loads above that with a 1200W PSU unless they run Furmark and Prime 95 at the same time all day long. Spikes up to 100% of the PSU rating are fine. When Nvidia rates the 4090 at 450W TDP. That's peak power draw, not typical power draw. It's practically impossible to max out all the components in your PC at once when gaming or any application a home user would come across.
Agree, it’s peak, but that’s the concern peak will blow it out as there isn’t a ton of headroom… it wouldn’t be sustained
 
Not sure why you insist on taking every point to the extreme as if there are zero exceptions ever. The average user and 100% of users are not interchangeable terms. 20 years isn't some magical number when the 1st 20A circuit was used in a US house. That's just a rough estimate about when they became more common.
The NEC code has required 20A circuits in bathrooms since 1999, which is 25 years ago. Not every state adopted the code in 1999, which is why I went with 20 years. 20A circuits are nothing new in US houses despite how outdated your "nice" house seems to be.
Well hang on a second. "Taking every point to the extreme"? You literally stated that anyone without 20A circuits lives in a mobile home "with shoelaces for wiring". That's pretty extreme rhetoric. Maybe tone it down a bit.

It's okay if you're going to buy a 5090 on day one, and you adore Nvidia and Jenson, but don't be the troll in the room fighting everyone who's going "eeps". It's silly, and a waste of your time.
 
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15A*125V=1875W = Hair dryer heat, and maximum from typical US wall plugs. This 600W GPU alone is like a third of the way there. That would be like 6*100W light bulbs(don't touch that). How many people care about video output quality that they'd be willing to go though all that extra money cost, cooling noise, and heat?