Question Intel i-7 12700K Integrated Graphics or GT 740 SC 2GB (Please don't laugh)

[asif2005]

I just finished building my new PC. I have not bought a GPU yet. I was waiting to see how things go with the GPU I have in my current PC but I am questioning myself.

I will buy a new card if I need to but at this point, I only need to know if i7 12700K integrated graphics is better/superior than my GT 740 SC 2GB. If thats the case, I won't even bother putting on 740.

My only requirement at this point is to have dual monitors and my new mobo has DP and a DVI so I am covered. The GT740 has two DVI ports.

Thanks in advance!

 

[punkncat]

The UHD graphics is really close, maybe a small amount better. More importantly I don't think the 740 is still supported for driver updates. The dedicated VRAM in the 740 is so small by today's standards that I wouldn't really call that a plus. I would save the power and use integrated in this case.

 

[beyondlogic]

I just finished building my new PC. I have not bought a GPU yet. I was waiting to see how things go with the GPU I have in my current PC but I am questioning myself.

I will buy a new card if I need to but at this point, I only need to know if i7 12700K integrated graphics is better/superior than my GT 740 SC 2GB. If thats the case, I won't even bother putting on 740.

My only requirement at this point is to have dual monitors and my new mobo has DP and a DVI so I am covered. The GT740 has two DVI ports.

Thanks in advance!

they are incredibly close gt 740 2gb ddr3 i assume uhd graphics have come quite a long way that and the ddr3 would be a hinderance. and some newer applications wont work possibly with said card.

 

[BFG-9000]

GT740 is a pretty decent Kepler that is simply hobbled by the DDR3-1333 on that particular card which supplies only 28.5GB/s bandwidth, to the point it is sometimes faster than GT730 GDDR5 and sometimes not. This level of performance is equivalent to Haswell IGP performance from 11 years ago.

Surprisingly, the UHD 770 in 12700k is only about 50% faster than this.

So try the faster IGP first, but be aware that Intel really did not optimize their drivers for the kinds of very old games you would play at such performance levels, so the slower GT740 may still offer a more trouble-free experience. Yes, nVidia did recently discontinue drivers for Kepler and the expected last-ever driver in September never dropped, so the latest is 475.14 from July 2024.

 

[asif2005]

GT740 is a pretty decent Kepler that is simply hobbled by the DDR3-1333 on that particular card which supplies only 28.5GB/s bandwidth, to the point it is sometimes faster than GT730 GDDR5 and sometimes not. This level of performance is equivalent to Haswell IGP performance from 11 years ago.

Surprisingly, the UHD 770 in 12700k is only about 50% faster than this.

So try the faster IGP first, but be aware that Intel really did not optimize their drivers for the kinds of very old games you would play at such performance levels, so the slower GT740 may still offer a more trouble-free experience. Yes, nVidia did recently discontinue drivers for Kepler and the expected last-ever driver in September never dropped, so the latest is 475.14 from July 2024.

Not a gamer so I am hoping I can stick to iGP for now. This is also the reason I have lasted as long as I did with GT740 (with my previous two builds). The only thing I am concerned about is, I some times do light video editing and Photoshop work as part of my job. I am also a heavy user of VMs running locally on my machine and 3 or 4 of them simultaneously. For that reason, I have 64GB RAM but may upgrade to 128GB RAM in the near future. Some of my VMs that need to be running 24/7 are server VMs that require a lot of RAM allocated.

 

[BFG-9000]

That would really depend on which Photoshop version you use. Without a GPU there is a list of things you can't do, notably 3D features.
Current Photoshop requires a DirectX 12 feature level 12_0 or later card, and while the GT740 does have DX12 drivers, the hardware is only feature level 11_0 because it was a DX11 card, so wouldn't really help over the IGP which is feature level 12_1 (but some things may not work when using system RAM instead of VRAM). It also doesn't support using the GPU features when run inside a VM.

For video editing, hardware encoding and decoding can be done at preset quality levels with Intel's Quick Sync Video or nVidia NVENC and NVDEC/Purevideo, but GT740 is so old it can only do H.264 in hardware.

 

[asif2005]

So I use PS CC 2019. I have GPU mode enabled with my GT 740 and I haven't had any hiccups with what I do in my current PC. I am going to try PS with and without GT740 on my new machine (heck I don't even know my hardware and win11 would even recognize my GT740). But do you have any recommendation for a budget card for the new machine if my only requirement is PS?

 

[BFG-9000]

Photoshop CC 2019 only really uses GPU acceleration for filters, and even a cheap used GTX 1060 6GB is fine:

However for some reason GTX 1070 8GB isn't much more expensive used, probably because 3GB was way more common for GTX 1060 (and way less likely to be used to mine). On the AMD side both RX5500 XT and RX6500 XT were available in 8GB, and more memory makes filter effects apply smoother in CC 2019. As you can see above, hardware requirements are really modest so better hardware barely has any effect, but just about any decent GPU is better than IGP likely due mostly to the extra memory bandwidth. Which is exactly what the GT740 DDR3 does not have, as it is much slower than the DDR5 system memory an IGP can use.

For video the UHD 770 can hardware accelerate anything any of these cards can, plus AV1 decode (the RX6500 XT can also do this but nVidia didn't add it until RTX 3000 series)

 

[asif2005]

I will pick up a GTX 1650 4GB that some one selling for $25. Hopefully that will do it.

This one to be exact: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CSG8PX22