All core isn't single or double core.That was in the context of the response from Terry. He advocates for "no unlimited/unrestricted tests". I just mention that in the context that Intel just enabled, officially, a new power level/state for the KS, so the 320W may be the new ceiling. It's probably an OC mode, but less weird/extreme than the 4096W limit.
And at least the sample HardwareUnboxed reviewed, it did not get to 6Ghz with the most beastly cooling solution plus ILM frame mod to lower temps so it boosts even higher. I don't know what to tell you, but it seems it'll reach 6Ghz under very specific conditions. And the floor power increase is real anyway.
Hence the "under very specific conditions".All core isn't single or double core.
The 13900ks is 6ghz for 2 cores, not all cores.
On the single core cinebench hwunboxed showed CPU package power of 36w so not throttling there, and their system was all core loaded per the clocks and their big cooler was providing about 256w of steady state cooling which is comparable to a nh-d15 air cooler for Alder/Raptor.
This review from HWUnboxed is not credible and their hwinfo64 display shows it.
Edit: I also saw 280w cooling so that isn't that bad, but there was a lot of background stuff going on if they couldn't get single core to work. That is basic stuff.
There's more nuance to that number than just saying "throttle point".
An overlay that shows you how much money you are paying for electricity to run this stupid thing.
Many of us here are still living with Mom including free utilities, unlimited kitchen, fridge privileges and apple pie! I came home with a business degree like millions of other guys unable in landing a job with a meaningful (Fortune 500) company and now living in a basement command center. So in order to keep my sanity with whatever money there is and with driving a forklift at Walmart, most $$$ are simply going to my car & tech. Hopefully another ‘entitlement’ will be forthcoming and pay for my education. Reality bites!
You just put a post directly under mine under the Sapphire Rapids article. In my post I have, under a spoiler, images of CPU context switching in CP2077 showing that it runs single core a lot. Check out those images. CPU use isn't as simple as single core or multi core. Lots of that could be 6GHZ. Hard for me to test because MSI AB doesn't support Raptor Lake yet. At least doesn't display much.Hence the "under very specific conditions".
If you can only run a game that doesn't use more than 2 cores and have zero other applications running in the background... I'm not sure what to say... Sounds iffy to me.
Use HWinfo then, it fully supports raptor and alder CPUs.You just put a post directly under mine under the Sapphire Rapids article. In my post I have, under a spoiler, images of CPU context switching in CP2077 showing that it runs single core a lot. Check out those images. CPU use isn't as simple as single core or multi core. Lots of that could be 6GHZ. Hard for me to test because MSI AB doesn't support Raptor Lake yet. At least doesn't display much.
Dude, stop, my sides can take so muchIn times like these and being the everyday man on the street, I for one like to be holding a few more dollars in my hand. Initially I thought that with holding a college degree in my hand I had a title to something. Well that did not work! Right now my life however revolves around ‘entitlements’ and the President may after all will be paying for my education. My mom just came down to my basement command center asking me: “When are you going to find a real job?” Welcome to my reality!
It doesn't matter what you run, physical limits are the same for everything.I guess it depends on what you use as a benchmark. Under full rendering load:
Intel® Adaptive Boost Technology Opportunistically increases all-core turbo frequency when current, power, and thermal headroom exists. Works below a temperature limit of 100°C.
This next in: Intel to release 13950KIS* , now with double the wattage, but its **Faster™MOAR WATTZES!! MOAR HURTZES!!! MOAR FASTER!!!!!! (a tiny bit)
Stupidity marches forward... ho hum.
I believe AMD said that their new X3D chips are about 25% faster than the 5800X3D in games. Simple math means that puts them on par or a bit better than the 13XXX intel CPUs. It will be interesting to see what they can do when they come out and get benched. I personally went from a 3900X to a 5800X3D and it was a massive boost in FPS even at 1440p with a lot of games I was/am playing.Is it going to get whipped by Zen4 X3D running at under 200W?
So true. I got my i3-12100 paired with a 3060 ti right now and nothing drops below 60fps with no discernible bottleneck that I'm seeing with the games I play. It truly is the $$$/perf king, imo.Even an i3 12100 can run almost anything at 60 fps in 1080p. It's a beast of a CPU.
It means you ain't gonna see those GHz when there's 30+ °C outside. Not without A/C blowing inside the case.It doesn't matter what you run, physical limits are the same for everything.
Yes, if you have adaptive boost enabled it will always try to reach 100 degrees.
Also techpowerup says that: "Temperatures are based on delta T, normalized to 25°C. " anybody that specialized in thermodynamics that can explain what this means?!
Because if nothing else, I can count on Windows to put my one timing-critical-speed thread on one of the slower cores. Every time. Without fail. Would you buy a computer with a thousand 200mhz z80s? Even if the total work done by all the threads combined is higher? How about a rack full of raspberry pies? No, of course not. I program in real-time, and I push my cores to their limits. Last thing I need is more cheap gimmicks.Explain how the E cores are "just garbage"? This thing will beat both 7950X and 7950X3D in every multi-threaded and professional workload. Do you think that is only using the 8 "full speed cores"?