Intel might be making gpus...disgusting

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Rumours have resurfaced about Intel's intentions to manufacturer a dedicated graphics processor....this is so dirty...their gpus suck...my neighbour's intel integrated 128mb processor cant even play fifa 2006...and he has 512mb of ddr2-533 ram and a socket 775 3.0ghz pentium 4...while i have a Geforce FX 5200 128mb on AGP😳, 512mb of DDR-400 ram and a socket 478 2.80ghz pentium 4...that sucks doesn't it...hopefully intel can get it right.

Intel might manufacture dedicated graphics cards
 
yeah they make integrated chips...which are quite frankly embarrassing to them in my opinion. Will anyone with knowledge of their gpu history trust them? I doubt. unless the benchmarks are good.
 
I always look for the alterier motive....

I wonder if they are really trying to weak ATI, and NVIDIA because of the fact that they don't like them making motherboard chips? If they can get rid of them, then all intel cpu motherboards will run off of 915,965,975,etc chips....

Imagine where AMD would be left without ATI/NVIDIA/VIA making quality motherboard chips for them.... Actually they could make system on a chip - which would rule.... But I think that is probably the future anyway.... watch for AMD or Intel to try and buy NVIDIA - interesting idea huh!
 
Where do you guys get your info? Intel IGP's are known to be the best performaning IGP's at the moment. And why get defensive? Hopefully they push the market with a good product, and stimulate for competition between these GFX companies. More competition = more engineers working on new GFX technology. So why complain? And if Intel puts out shit, then all the better for you AMD fanboys or Intel haters, because it would be a significant waste of resources and plunge their market share even further.

Intel's interest in the stand alone GFX industry, IMO, signifys that they've acknowledged the fact that they aren't nearly as strong as they used to be in the processor market, and Intel probably feels it has a better chance at being an all around company that can take on a market simply with it's big name. But, it also stands be just a plain old counter rumor to extinguish some of the fire that was built up over the ATI/AMD merger rumors.
 
Where do you guys get your info? Intel IGP's are known to be the best performaning IGP's at the moment. And why get defensive? Hopefully they push the market with a good product, and stimulate for competition between these GFX companies. More competition = more engineers working on new GFX technology. So why complain? And if Intel puts out ****, then all the better for you AMD fanboys or Intel haters, because it would be a significant waste of resources and plunge their market share even further.

Intel's interest in the stand alone GFX industry, IMO, signifys that they've acknowledged the fact that they aren't nearly as strong as they used to be in the processor market, and Intel probably feels it has a better chance at being an all around company that can take on a market simply with it's big name. But, it also stands be just a plain old counter rumor to extinguish some of the fire that was built up over the ATI/AMD merger rumors.
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I agree with everthing you said.... Why I personally dont like it though is because I don't want them to pull a Microsoft, and push the other guys out of business.... The best product doesn't always win, so even if it pushes the other guys to improve their gfx, it might not matter if Intel starts giving away free gfx cards with purchase of an intel processor(or some other sceme)....

Look what intel tried to do with 64bit.... At first they released 64 bit chips that were not em64t/amd64 bit compatible.... They tried to start their proprietary 64 bit, and wanted Microsoft to only make Vista compatible with their 64bit chip - Forcing AMD out of business....

Wintel is evil....
 
Not the best performing by a fair amount. The Nvidia 6100/6150 IGP earns that reward, with the ATI express 200 IGP in a close second. The GMA 900/950 trail a distant third, really only beating Intel's own previous graphics chips, the Extreme Graphics 2. The IGPs from Via and Sis are very old, with neither being able to outperform Intel's extreme graphics 2 chipset. So in all actuality, Intel's current IGP ranks third, mainly due to the fact that SIS and VIA have not even tried to produce a new IGP in the last 3 years.

Intel is the largest manufacturer of graphics chips though, vastly overshadowing Nvidia and ATI combined in total graphics sales.

ATI's new RS600 IGP will overshadow even Intel's soon-to-be-released x3000 IGP, which really should be no slouch itself as it should easily outperform today's current IGP champ, the Nvidia 6150.

I agree with the other poster, that these IGPs will probably make the low-end discrete graphics card obsolete. Hell, the Nvidia 6100/6150 already outperforms the 64 bit FX5200. :lol:
 
One thing to keep in mind is that no one wants Intel to make competitive graphics chips. Their consumers are people that don't run games. These people don't want to pay more for a computer then they have to. ATI and Nvidia certainly don't want Intel making good graphics chips, because then no one would upgrade to their products.

Since intel is making motherboard chipsets anyway it makes a lot of sense for them to make IGPs as well. Anyway the only reason they are upgrading their IGPs is to be able to run Vista Aero without an addon card. This seems like a good idea to me. (Not for me personally, I like ATI cards)
 
I feel the same way. Intel should stick to making entry level IGPs, as they do a good job at it. ATI and Nvidia are very strong in their market; I don't see much room for Intel in the discrete graphics market. This new IGP should enable Intel to corner the HTPC market though. I especially like Intel's add on cards for their IGPs that allow for tv output, among other things.
 
Those are just rumors from an unknown site, dont take it too seriously. And about the onboard graphics chip, I think there're still many people benefit from it. If we have to pay lots of money for gaming, then yes, onboard graphics suck big time. But if you just need a computer to do office stuff and normal gaming, then onboard chips serve its purpose. And remember, we gamers dont make up more than 50% of the world computer owners population, so onboard chip is not such a bad idea.

These companies, Intel and AMD, they want to make money, not to show who is looking good. Like Toyota never gonna do crazy thing about speedy car like Ferrari or Porsch. That showing whos better is belonged to gaming system builder, because thats how they can make their computer more appealing to customers.
 
I actualy wouldnt mind a 3Ghz graphics chip on 45nm... I dont think Intel will become a major player for at least a couple of generations anyway, so its not dirty of them people who buy video cards will buy what works best for the best price if its Intel then so ? if its ATI or Nvidia no one will care :)
 
I always look for the alterier motive....

I wonder if they are really trying to weak ATI, and NVIDIA because of the fact that they don't like them making motherboard chips? If they can get rid of them, then all intel cpu motherboards will run off of 915,965,975,etc chips....

Imagine where AMD would be left without ATI/NVIDIA/VIA making quality motherboard chips for them.... Actually they could make system on a chip - which would rule.... But I think that is probably the future anyway.... watch for AMD or Intel to try and buy NVIDIA - interesting idea huh!
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I agree with everthing you said.... Why I personally dont like it though is because I don't want them to pull a Microsoft, and push the other guys out of business.... The best product doesn't always win, so even if it pushes the other guys to improve their gfx, it might not matter if Intel starts giving away free gfx cards with purchase of an intel processor(or some other sceme)....

Look what intel tried to do with 64bit.... At first they released 64 bit chips that were not em64t/amd64 bit compatible.... They tried to start their proprietary 64 bit, and wanted Microsoft to only make Vista compatible with their 64bit chip - Forcing AMD out of business....

Wintel is evil....
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WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO?!?!

I'm not an Intel fanboy, nor an AMD fanboy. However, what you are saying is b$... if Intel put AMD out of business, then INTEL WOULD BE A MONOPOLY. which means bad news for everyone, which also means congress has to step in and break up the monopoly, intel would not risk losing alot of money by putting amd of of business. everything you have said is a lie. also, I doubt ANYONE would buy nvidia or be able to.

and also, it would suicide for intel to try to make a graphics card. Unless they could make a card that dominates the power of ATi and NVIDIA's cards. which would not happen, ati and nvidia have waaayyy too much experience in the graphics market.
 
I'm not an Intel fanboy, nor an AMD fanboy. However, what you are saying is b$... if Intel put AMD out of business, then INTEL WOULD BE A MONOPOLY.
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Well, there'd still be Via and IBM :roll:

Heh, I can just imagine it. AMD files for bankruptcy, and overnight C7 sales triple.
 
These companies, Intel and AMD, they want to make money, not to show who is looking good. Like Toyota never gonna do crazy thing about speedy car like Ferrari or Porsch.
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Not to be a stickler, but does the name "Supra" ring any bells? :lol:
 
Yeah well Intel does sell the most chips but if they were to make dedicated video cards they would remain number one in selling if they sell them along with the cpu. But I doubt that they will do that. But there are rumours that ATI and AMD will merge together which in my opinion doesn't make sense given the fact that Intel signed a cross licensing contract with ATI and could be trying to stop Nvidia from running Quad SLI on their boards...
Intel isn't supporting quad sli
 
Err... playing FIFA is not what a integrated graphics chip is supposed to do.
If Intel wants, they can actually create a discrete GPU that beats anything nVidia/ATi in like 3 or 4 years.
 
Yes of cource an integrated solution is going to be slower then a dedicated gpu that costs 4x the ammount. What do you expect out of an integrated video card ?, its not going to be a graphical monster from any perspective.
 
Not to be a stickler, but does the name "Supra" ring any bells?
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Not to be a stickler, but does the name "GT One" ring any bells?
Just kidding (ain't Gran Turismo great though)

On to my point:

Isn't Intel the number 1 graphics processor manufacturer in the whole world, way ahead of ATi and nVidia? (In case noone's mentioned it yet)
 
We all should know that an integrated chipset can't match a dedicated processor. But it might be possible for Intel to defeat ATI and Nvidia at their own game.
 
What type of boards does Intel make most of their integrated graphics for? Servers. Server's don't need that much graphics power anyway. In otherwords, Intel's focus on graphics is not for the gamer or for the video editor, just for making sure the system can output graphics if need be. I agree with what was mentioned earlier, the only reason they are upgrading is to make sure its compliant with Vista. Remember 70% or more of all motherboards Intel makes, end users (home users) never see; they are all in server machines.
 
I'm not sure what's disgusting about it. Hell, let AMD get into it also.

Why? The more competition - Better technology! Better prices!

You buy what suites your needs.
 
Intel also wants to make NAND, which is a smart business move because NAND hard drives are on their way. Samsung has made a ton of $$$ selling NAND to Apple for the iPod.
 
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