Intel or AMD?

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Theres rumblings of some kinda AMD surprise, whatever that means. Could just be, dont buy Intel now, who knows?

 

[randomizer]

Theres rumblings of some kinda AMD surprise, whatever that means. Could just be, dont buy Intel now, who knows?

The return of BM and the joining of forces between Sharikababoob and Scientia is the surprise I heard.

 

[neon neophyte]

during AMDs reign, with the Athlon, they didnt hike their prices like intel does.

 

[randomizer]

No they didn't did they?

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

The return of BM and the joining of forces between Sharikababoob and Scientia is the surprise I heard.

Now thats funny LOL

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Having those higher prices, which were matched by the lessor performing Intel heatbursts, I think upset alot of people when C2D came out, and those prices were cut by over 70%

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

I agree, and if performance isnt either needed or even if needed, its not that different, Im supporting AMD as well, until theyre back on their feet at least.

PS My troll comment wasnt about you btw

 

[xaira]

usually amd takes about a year or more to relase a technology competing with intels top desktop dog, itd be kool if the something special had 6 cores running at 3ghz, maybe thell try an intel and glue 2 quads together, or glue a quad and a dual to make 6. if intel releases i9 and amd still cant compete with i7 we might see the cheapest era of amds existence. although i really hope they have a native 6 core with ddr2 support.

and byt the way intel has nothing lanned in 33nm, i dont even think 33nm exists 32,28,22

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Ive heard better stepping/thermals/clocks. Ive heard a few nice tweaks etc. All rumor, tho I do remember someone from AMD saying the 965 wasnt just a faster 955. That may be pointing to a newer stepping, who knows?

 

[Helloworld_98]

^ or their version of SMT.

and we haven't heard much news on 28nm in a long time from AMD, or 32nm.

 

[tisello]

i recently checked out a web site and there was this guy claiming he clocked his Intel core 2 quad 2.83ghz to 3.8ghz and running stable, it was a Q9550 12mb cache. It costs lie 50€ more then the AMD Phenom™ II X4 810 Quad Core 2.6ghz 4MB cache. Is it really worth to pay that 50€ extra for 8mb more cache and a better OC stabile processor?

 

[J0SEPH]

...... Is it really worth to pay that 50€ extra for 8mb more cache and a better OC stabile processor?

The l2 cache size is extremely important for modern cpu's because it's used as a way to sort of outsmart the bus speed
bottleneck. That 12mb alone justifies the price, in my opinion. As for OC'ing I'm not so sure that the Yorkfield is any more stable than the Phailnom 810. This is one area where AMD seems to keep pace with Intel.

 

[jj463rd]

Theres rumblings of some kinda AMD surprise, whatever that means. Could just be, dont buy Intel now, who knows?

Ah yes the ATI 5800 series graphics cards,the 800 series chipsets and the 1.5 billion transistor Phenom III series CPU's

 

[randomizer]

The l2 cache size is extremely important for modern cpu's because it's used as a way to sort of outsmart the bus speed
bottleneck. That 12mb alone justifies the price, in my opinion.

You can't possibly compare the amount of cache on an AMD chip and an Intel (pre-Core i7) chip directly. This bus bottleneck you're imagining only exists on LGA775 and older, not AM2+, AM3 or LGA1366. HyperTransport and QPI both have extremely high bandwidth with direct access to memory, whereas LGA775 uses the much slower FSB which includes the added bottleneck of the chipset.

 

[BadTrip]

so very true

 

[J0SEPH]

You can't possibly compare the amount of cache on an AMD chip and an Intel (pre-Core i7) chip directly.

while running in terror from randomizer

I'm not. I'm saying the 12mb L2 on the q9950 is a valid justification of it's price. I'm not denying the existence of HT3

My deepest apologies however if my statement was not coherently written. I have shamed myself, my father and my father's father.

mods=gods

zay moykhl!

 

[tisello]

So i have 3 options here.

1 Intel i7 2.66ghz
2 Q9550 12mb chache 2.8ghz
3 AMD Phenom™ II X4 810 Quad Core 2.6ghz 4MB cache

wich should i choose?

!!!price matters!!!

 

[randomizer]

For what task?

 

[Helloworld_98]

^ +1

i7 920 = The best in everything pretty much, and includes the usual high energy usage that top of the line tech needs.

Q9550 = Not as good, cheaper because it's an EOL part, but still a fair contender with lower energy usage.

X4 810 = Cheaper, not EOL but has a lower performance level than the Q9550, but has the lowest energy usage of the three.

 

[tisello]

high end gaming

 

[Wisecracker]

i recently checked out a web site and there was this guy claiming he clocked his Intel core 2 quad 2.83ghz to 3.8ghz and running stable, it was a Q9550 12mb cache. It costs lie 50€ more then the AMD Phenom™ II X4 810 Quad Core 2.6ghz 4MB cache. Is it really worth to pay that 50€ extra for 8mb more cache and a better OC stabile processor?

So i have 3 options here.

1 Intel i7 2.66ghz
2 Q9550 12mb chache 2.8ghz
3 AMD Phenom™ II X4 810 Quad Core 2.6ghz 4MB cache

wich should i choose?

!!!price matters!!!

Well, duh - :lol:

It's all good. Depending upon your specific tasks one may be better than the other but for the most part you will be happy with either AMD or Intel. I always try to go 'low' in price because 6 months from now the 'new' tech will always be less expensive and more capable.

You don't really have a good comparison - check out the Q8400 versus the Phenom 810 for 'bang for pound'.

And as far as OCing it's the 'great equalizer' among price points (at least now that AMD has rolled the 45s). Anand took the Phenom 810 to 3.7GHz plus an IMC/NB at 2700MHz.

YMMV - but any quad core microprocessor running 3GHz+ is more than any of us deserve.

 

[xaira]

if its truly high end gaming then price shouldnt matter

if its gaming on a budget, which u are, get the 810

it makes no sense to get a i7920 and pair it with a hd4670/9600gt

 

[randomizer]

Might be better off with a 720 BE.

 

[tisello]

it makes no sense to get a i7920 and pair it with a hd4670/9600gt

I'm buying a Sapphire Radeon HD 4890 2gb 😛 and well price does matter because i want to get the most preformance for the least price.

And something struck me. I think i have a MOBO who doesnt support AMD >.<

The 8400 you say, is it good for the money?

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

its at BSN

Read this
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/07/27/plagiarism-rampant-it-journalism/