INTEL RELEASES MOTHER-OF-ALL-FUD DOC

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Intel has the right to post its own opinions you know. And there has been a lot of AMD rubbish too so this is nothing special to look at.
BTW FX 60 isn't that far ahead,it gets matched by a 955 on stock at most things and it can't overclock very well.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1909488,00.asp
AMD is mainly ahead now because it's cooler and consumes less.
Performance wise,differences are small.
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If you remove the biased synthetics from that review Intel has nothing except a few benchmarks.
 
I don't like your philosophy. I think both the 955EE and the FX60 are great chips, and I'd have a hard time choosing between them. Although I'd probably go with the 955EE for the 4 logical processors.

Also Compgeek, take a look at the ORB and tell me what CPU most of the top 20 scores in the world use.
 
I don't like your philosophy. I think both the 955EE and the FX60 are great chips, and I'd have a hard time choosing between them. Although I'd probably go with the 955EE for the 4 logical processors.

Also Compgeek, take a look at the ORB and tell me what CPU most of the top 20 scores in the world use.
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Just because it has HyperThreading? That's a dumb reason.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
mike what are you doin? go get ak on that other thread! ill help you if you need any help to take down another intel fanboy 😀
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I'm not on these forumz to "take down" fanboyz. I am having a discussion with the fanboy ak47, and I hope he realizes the truth soon.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
"Why do you compare the 955 with the FX-60? The much cheaper X2 4800+ is even better than the 955."
Yeah right. LOOK,i'd take a 955 over a 4800 anyday,i don't care about energy consumption,i have proper cooling and it performs OCs better.
4800 has better price performance(doh) but for crying out loud it's not better.(you negate FACTS?,955 is at least equal)
I never said Intel has an edge on the desktop market but you make too much fuss about AMD lead and you post much biased AMD crap.

And as stated there int the ET site FX 60 is equal to the 955 in most benchmarks . There will be a final 965. It would be fair to compare FX 60 to that.

AMD should enjoy their time now cause they'll certainly pay for getting out of their cave.
AMD will simply be bombarded by Intel with:
very competitive or better CPUs (and good mobos)
marketing as always
deals with OEMs
paying web sites for biased reviews
=> AMD will suffer by the end of this year!
Go go Intel, don't give up
Show AMD what you've got
You have to use this one shot
Put AMD's progress to a halt
Get rid of it with a knock out
And kill it before it starts to rot! :twisted:
Yeah, can't wait for Conroe and woodcrest,not only for my personal needs but also to shut your mouths ! Core Duo is equall clock per clock to a X2 desktop CPU. On papper everything looks great. Intel is heavily working on these chips . They know AMD are aiming high but they also know that AMD are few . Good reasons to expect much!
 
"Why do you compare the 955 with the FX-60? The much cheaper X2 4800+ is even better than the 955."
Yeah right. LOOK,i'd take a 955 over a 4800 anyday,i don't care about energy consumption,i have proper cooling and it performs OCs better.
4800 has better price performance(doh) but for crying out loud it's not better.(you negate FACTS?,955 is at least equal)
I never said Intel has an edge on the desktop market but you make too much fuss about AMD lead and you post much biased AMD crap.

And as stated there int the ET site FX 60 is equal to the 955 in most benchmarks . There will be a final 965. It would be fair to compare FX 60 to that.

AMD should enjoy their time now cause they'll certainly pay for getting out of their cave.
AMD will simply be bombarded by Intel with:
very competitive or better CPUs (and good mobos)
marketing as always
deals with OEMs
paying web sites for biased reviews
=> AMD will suffer by the end of this year!
Go go Intel, don't give up
Show AMD what you've got
You have to use this one shot
Put AMD's progress to a halt
Get rid of it with a knock out
And kill it before it starts to rot! :twisted:
Yeah, can't wait for Conroe and woodcrest,not only for my personal needs but also to shut your mouths ! Core Duo is equall clock per clock to a X2 desktop CPU. On papper everything looks great. Intel is heavily working on these chips . They know AMD are aiming high but they also know that AMD are few . Good reasons to expect much!
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Wow man, thanks, I needed a good laugh to start the weekend off before I go to a sweet AMD-Only LAN Party. Let me start off with Conroe:

Conroe:

Shorter Pipelined, meaning bye-bye goes the "Intel Domination" in Encoding and Video apps. Still uses the FSB: means it won't be any faster than current P4's in Memory Bandwidth and gaming. 4MB L2 Cache: that talks for itself. The only real competitor is the 1333MHz FSB Extreme Edition Conroe that's gonna cost 17 house mortgages.

Woodcrest:

Please........

HyperTransport alone can be scaled up to, currently, about double the performance now (32-bit 2800MHz BUS) which means that Woodcrest just got slapped in the face. Uh Oh, HyperTransport 3.0 is set to be released in 2007 which uses Fault Tolerant I/O, FB-DIMM's, DDR3, and speed increase. As well as the ability to scale Opteron 64 SMP servers up to 32-Sockets w/ 4 cores each (oo 128 AMD64 Opterons). Isn't that nice? But wait...HyperTransport 4.0....uh oh... DDR4, FB2-DIMM's, Faster Speed, and On-Chip Co-Processors...hmm...What's Intel makin'? Something called CSI...woot!

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
"Intel does well in marketing" -- Yup, thats how I,m going to decide which new CPU to buy----------- Based on the $$$ a bunch of business managment majors (who dont even know what a CPU is, other than the product they're marketing) gave to a bunch of actors/scriptwriters/producers/advertising websites etc etc etc.

Screw performance, relentlessly mind-numbing commercials and advertisments are a much more valuable measure of a products true value than actual performance!!

And for its next marketing trick, Intel will begin offering its CPUs in a variety of new and exciting colors. Maybe that will make them faster than AMD
 
"Intel does well in marketing" -- Yup, thats how I,m going to decide which new CPU to buy----------- Based on the $$$ a bunch of business managment majors (who dont even know what a CPU is, other than the product they're marketing) gave to a bunch of actors/scriptwriters/producers/advertising websites etc etc etc.

Screw performance, relentlessly mind-numbing commercials and advertisments are a much more valuable measure of a products true value than actual performance!!

And for its next marketing trick, Intel will begin offering its CPUs in a variety of new and exciting colors. Maybe that will make them faster than AMD
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LOL I want a Black & Red CPU :twisted: . Oh wait, that's what color the Intel CPU's are after they go against an AMD64 :lol: .

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
"Why do you compare the 955 with the FX-60? The much cheaper X2 4800+ is even better than the 955."
Yeah right. LOOK,i'd take a 955 over a 4800 anyday,i don't care about energy consumption,i have proper cooling and it performs OCs better.
4800 has better price performance(doh) but for crying out loud it's not better.(you negate FACTS?,955 is at least equal)
I never said Intel has an edge on the desktop market but you make too much fuss about AMD lead and you post much biased AMD crap.

And as stated there int the ET site FX 60 is equal to the 955 in most benchmarks . There will be a final 965. It would be fair to compare FX 60 to that.

AMD should enjoy their time now cause they'll certainly pay for getting out of their cave.
AMD will simply be bombarded by Intel with:
very competitive or better CPUs (and good mobos)
marketing as always
deals with OEMs
paying web sites for biased reviews
=> AMD will suffer by the end of this year!
Go go Intel, don't give up
Show AMD what you've got
You have to use this one shot
Put AMD's progress to a halt
Get rid of it with a knock out
And kill it before it starts to rot! :twisted:
Yeah, can't wait for Conroe and woodcrest,not only for my personal needs but also to shut your mouths ! Core Duo is equall clock per clock to a X2 desktop CPU. On papper everything looks great. Intel is heavily working on these chips . They know AMD are aiming high but they also know that AMD are few . Good reasons to expect much!
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Seriously, get a grip. If Intel is on such a rebound, why are they gutting their outlook AGAIN?? Do you really think AMD has just been sitting still all this time? Please look at the facts before you spout off your fairy-land fantasies about one company or another.
 
Oh, noes.
Shorter pipelines not good? Well it's really not only the pipeline that matters even in encoding.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2648&p=10
Woot/ It's a great result considering the punny fsb count on the duo yet it performs so well.
L3 cache? Not until 65 nm arrives and that won't be coming too soon.
L3 will be on highly priced FX and opterons not on regular AM2s. And it won't improve much.
Intel's XE clocked at 3.3ghz will be available by that time with 45 nm just around the corner.

Servers? Well no need to get AMD-ish about opterons. Woodcrest will probably be higher clocked than opterons and i've read that they should perform better in SPEC tests.
Basically Intel will have
14 stages
4-issue out-of-order execution engine
it is romoured to be much better at FPU
and will have many features (virtualistion...)
As it is now, AMD is far from wining 2006 . And most people on 939 will probably skip AM2 cause it will probably be more expensive CPUs at the same performance with DDDR2 and to really get tha' boost you'd need to spend a lot.
About Conroe is only speculation and Laptop CPU w/ Yonah arhitecture performance test that shows equal clock performance. But still you have a positive benchmark. The only benchmark you can find about AM2 is one showing that AM2=939 performance wise. So AMD didn't/couldn't improve too much so they settled for needed upgrades.

AMD has reported probs with the memory controler and anyway,that alone aren't gonna give the performance crown,even in games.
BTW Inq also posted this
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28639
Now the AMD biased site actually posted THIS article.
 
How is it that everything AMD claims for their upcoming products is either lies or has problems, but everything Intel claims is Gospel Truth?? Do you read your posts to see how biased you look?

I have no problem saying Intel makes decent chips, and infact better mobile chips at the moment. Thats why their mobile division seems to be the only one turning a profit right now.
 
Oh, noes.
Shorter pipelines not good? Well it's really not only the pipeline that matters even in encoding.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2648&p=10
Woot/ It's a great result considering the punny fsb count on the duo yet it performs so well.
L3 cache? Not until 65 nm arrives and that won't be coming too soon.
L3 will be on highly priced FX and opterons not on regular AM2s. And it won't improve much.
Intel's XE clocked at 3.3ghz will be available by that time with 45 nm just around the corner.

Servers? Well no need to get AMD-ish about opterons. Woodcrest will probably be higher clocked than opterons and i've read that they should perform better in SPEC tests.
Basically Intel will have
14 stages
4-issue out-of-order execution engine
it is romoured to be much better at FPU
and will have many features (virtualistion...)
As it is now, AMD is far from wining 2006 . And most people on 939 will probably skip AM2 cause it will probably be more expensive CPUs at the same performance with DDDR2 and to really get tha' boost you'd need to spend a lot.
About Conroe is only speculation and Laptop CPU w/ Yonah arhitecture performance test that shows equal clock performance. But still you have a positive benchmark. The only benchmark you can find about AM2 is one showing that AM2=939 performance wise. So AMD didn't/couldn't improve too much so they settled for needed upgrades.

AMD has reported probs with the memory controler and anyway,that alone aren't gonna give the performance crown,even in games.
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God you're a f*ckin newb, lol.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
AMD obviously won't sit still but AMD can't research on many areas at the same time.
AM2 is a simple refresh( first contact with DDR2 and the like) though it'll last a year.
From a refresh chip you can't expect much
 
AMD obviously didn't sit still but AMD can't research on many areas at the same time.
AM2 is a simple refresh( first contact with DDR2 and the like) though it'll last a year.
From a refresh chip you can't expect much
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I can't expect much from somebody like you. But you constantly amaze me with your ever-growing Intel Fanboyism.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
I'm fckin' right though.
And i don't give a dang about computers as long programs work on them. But facts are facts and you're AMD fanboyism is beyond anything i have ever encountered.
LOL i'm having the time of my life here.
You don't see the empty part of the glass when it comes to AMD. You're as blinded as you are not bright. You get mad over some speculation, you don't justify your claims and you make cats look like lions and vice versa.
You should get some time off LOL. Who ever gets mad in a public forum is bound to have other problems as well. You waste your time praising AMD. One thing is what there currently is,a totally different thing is what will be esspecially when changing arhitectures.
So i believe that Conroe will beat AMD. So what's the problem with that?
Does that alone make me an Intel fanboy? Nope just a X person that finds the Conroe looking impressive.

I'll give up on this one. You'd continue discusing this all night(it's night here were i stand). Sry and don't worry. There are a lot of other posts that you might consider Intel biased so go,go flammin'. I sincerely hope you'll find your equivalent of fanboyism on the Intel side so you can chat all day long!
 
I'm fckin' right though.
And i don't give a dang about computers as long programs work on them. But facts are facts and you're AMD fanboyism is beyond anything i have ever encountered.
LOL i'm having the time of my life here.
You don't see the empty part of the glass when it comes to AMD. You're as blinded as you are not bright. You get mad over some speculation, you don't justify your claims and you make cats look like lions and vice versa.
You should get some time off LOL. Who ever gets mad in a public forum is bound to have other problems as well. You waste your time praising AMD. One thing is what there currently is,a totally different thing is what will be esspecially when changing arhitectures.
So i believe that Conroe will beat AMD. So what's the problem with that?
Does that alone make me an Intel fanboy? Nope just a X person that finds the Conroe looking impressive.

I'll give up on this one. You'd continue discusing this all night(it's night here were i stand). Sry and don't worry. There are a lot of other posts that you might consider Intel biased so go,go flammin'. I sincerely hope you'll find your equivalent of fanboyism on the Intel side so you can chat all day long!
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See what I'm sayin' guys? :roll:

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
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