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Yea, you owned me for sure :roll:

"(# of Clock Cycles it takes to Close a Row and Open another)"

Your copy paste skills from google astound, who would have thought you came up with all that yourself.

That must be embarrasing.
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? What is that proving? You went to google and typed in what I said and got no exact response. That doesn't prove anything, and I already knew that, didn't have to copy and paste from Google.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
You posted single computer benchmarks, not two similar systems, with massive stable overclocks, and then compare them. Not to mention looking at that AquaMark, if thats points in thousands, the numbers dont add up to 149k, so how do you acheive that number?? Magic? Pork and Beans? However I do see that the FPS on the screeny is 149.71, which is how benchmarks are usually displayed, in hundreth, all you do is round up 149.708, ans you get the afore mentioned number.

Whats better is the guy who posts directly after you and says that the previous score was 138k...idiots...
 
You posted single computer benchmarks, not two similar systems, with massive stable overclocks, and then compare them. Not to mention looking at that AquaMark, if thats points in thousands, the numbers dont add up to 149k, so how do you acheive that number?? Magic? Pork and Beans? However I do see that the FPS on the screeny is 149.71, which is how benchmarks are usually displayed, in hundreth, all you do is round up 149.708, ans you get the afore mentioned number.

Whats better is the guy who posts directly after you and says that the previous score was 138k...idiots...
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FUGGER is doubting my computer knowledge, this is getting interesting. Don't ya think Abraxas?

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
Maybe it does. But that wasn't my point. My point was that you two will never convince each other.

And the when you die thing was meant as a joke and had no intention of offense to anyone.
 
Maybe it does. But that wasn't my point. My point was that you two will never convince each other.

And the when you die thing was meant as a joke and had no intention of offense to anyone.
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"Maybe It Does" - ? Huh?

I don't care about the death comment, I'm sure H E Double Hockey Sticks is better than here.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
I find it most astounding that he thinks showing us his 6.2GHZ cpu alone is a good show of how well his system pwns a FX-60. Side by side comparison is the only way to show a better than you analysis. Oh and the AquaMark score, 149,708...please the freeking FPS is in the top corner, 149.71, you round up the .008, and any newb with an ounce of math skill can clearly see that 26.xxx(x or +) 17.xxx will never equal 149 anything. 26x17 itself is 442! And 26 + 17 is 43 and that wont equal 149 in anything unless its times 3.x You need a decimal to even get close to 149.

I did the calculations, his two scores added then timed by 3 and 4 is roughly 127 and 170. Thats the worst scoring system I have ever seen! :trophy:
 
From what I have seen your knowledge is from the bottom of the barrel. Atleast mike proves his statements with facts, not bias uncompared tests from one system.
 
ROFL, your knowledge is as shallow as your respect.

I didnt know they gave out badges for copy/paste.
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I guess since you said it, it must make it true. Go play with your 17THz Intel Pentium 4 and have fun living your life of overclocking, send me a letter to see how it goes.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
"Wise men never argue with fools, because people from a distance can't tell who is who"

I love this quote, did you make it up yourself? Seriously, it is amazing how it can applied to real life. In Toms Hardware "Mother of All CPU Charts, in the games AMD wins all, minus the "statistical" tie in DOOM 3, and that was only by .3 frames. But we are enthusiants here, and .3 FPS can mean all the difference in the world. You show me a person, not a program, who can tell the difference in that, I'll show you a mental disorder.

~Ibrahim~

P.S. btw, i've been overseas and AMD doesn't have a great reputation, but I'm glad they are working on it.

Oh yeah, almost forgot my "proof":

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/11/21/the_mother_of_all_cpu_charts_2005/index.html
 
Hello all, I am new to these forums, So I will try to give my view on the WHole Intel vs AMD outlook, everyone seems to be a fanboy to some extent, and while I try not to be I am bias towards AMD and the reason being is because I have an AMD, i dont want to be bias towards a processor (intel based that I do not have in my system.
My AMD 3000+ 939 overclokced to 2480 thats faster than a 4000+, actually its about 4200+ single core, Currently AMD has the highest performing desktop processor and the Opteriums are clokcing VERY well recently, there is no way anyone can dispute this, if Intel can make a Faster processor then good on them, Intel also need to make a cheap fast processor, that is what has been killing them of late, and Intel know this, Intel need to get that 45nm manafacturing process and redisgn the a processor from the ground up, the fact is the Pentium 4 is aging remeber what drives the market:
performance, Thermal dissapation, Price.

peace out
 
Yep, I know you are clueless to how AM3 is scored.

Second, in just some of the links that I need to spoon feed you guys with (as if there were not 100K other links on me from google were not enough) you would find all sorts of benchmarks. Oddly are not valid to anyones scale here.

Maybe I should have linked to stocksystems.com
 
yeah, I agree with you and MadModMike. You have to get em on the bench side by side and do a comparison.

Benchmarks to relied upon too much and are often biased.

As much as anyone may disagree, I agree that only the one's with the true knowledge shall prevail and in this thread, Mike brings alot of knowledge to the table.
 
I am not sure you are insulting me or agreeing with me...

All I am saying is that you can't show one side of the argument without showing the other side in a comparison. How do you think the Pepsi vs Coke wars would have turned out if Pepsi had places a can of Pesi and a cardboard cutout of a Coke can next to it and said taste test?? People with any common sense would see that it was not a taste test at all.

Showning a 6ghz intel with all its marks and only the intel with no comparable AMD opponent is incompetent to say the least.
 
I am not sure you are insulting me or agreeing with me...

All I am saying is that you can't show one side of the argument without showing the other side in a comparison. How do you think the Pepsi vs Coke wars would have turned out if Pepsi had places a can of Pesi and a cardboard cutout of a Coke can next to it and said taste test?? People with any common sense would see that it was not a taste test at all.

Showning a 6ghz intel with all its marks and only the intel with no comparable AMD opponent is incompetent to say the least.
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Incompetent might be too big a word for these gentle-sirs, try "Idiots", they seem to respond well to it lol.


~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
Well, I'm not insulting you. Doesn't the Mother of All CPU Charts include the latest CPU's from both Intel and AMD?

~Ibrahim~
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It is a known fact (for some) that THG isn't the most Un-Biased website, I tend to take the THG results with a grain of salt, some think they are pure gospel truth, I tend to be a huge skeptic.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
Any benchmark ,for that matter, should be taken with a shaker of salt as some benches were made on certain brands, you can already count out synthetics and stuff is optimized for hardware all the time.

~Ibrahim~

P.S. I'm kind of being presumptous here, I mean the guy who coded and what-not for 3D mark made it on a Intel or AMD, right? There isn't some secret CPU out there for benchmarking that I noob like me doesn't know about? But the question is, if there was, would you even tell me?
 
"Wise men never argue with fools, because people from a distance can't tell who is who"

I love this quote, did you make it up yourself? Seriously, it is amazing how it can applied to real life.
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No, I unfortunately cannot claim credit for this saying. I am pretty sure that it is very old.
 
Ah... Good one, though. I was reading a book, and I came across "Luck is for losers." How does this go with it: "Luck is for losers. Confidence is for winners." Any good?
 
Your aquamark is a fraking FRAUD! The numbers don't even add up! There is clear reason to believe that your big 149,708 score is nothing more than a poorly assigned decimal! Look at your own damn picture! The FPS in the right corner area is 149.71. Did you fail math or not pay attention when they taught rounding up?? .708 rounded to the nearest hundreth is .71...

God some people are so blind by their faulty superiorty they can't recognize that they are never always right.

If the makers of AquaMark intent to show 2 numbers stacked on top of each other, and add a line underneath them, then put a number under the line, one can only assume that the score must be a addition or subtraction, or a multiplication of the first two numbers. But since the "score" has no label and there is a comparable number 149.71 with the FPS label next to it, one can rationally assume, that since the first two numbers in no way sum to 149 anything, the big ole 149k in really 149.708 without the rounding to 149.71. Get with the logic.
 
Any benchmark ,for that matter, should be taken with a shaker of salt as some benches were made on certain brands, you can already count out synthetics and stuff is optimized for hardware all the time.

~Ibrahim~

P.S. I'm kind of being presumptous here, I mean the guy who coded and what-not for 3D mark made it on a Intel or AMD, right? There isn't some secret CPU out there for benchmarking that I noob like me doesn't know about? But the question is, if there was, would you even tell me?
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Intel and AMD CPU's are not the only CPU's in the world, there are mounds of CPU's made by other people (Such as IBM, Sun, Motorola, etc.) that are used in heavy machines, workstations and I'm sure somebody has coded on them before.

EDIT: www.Top500.org - The best CPU's in the world.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
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