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Hector admitted defeat today and will not challange Intel for the high performance sector as FX-60 failed. Losing money in not in the best interest to AMD. Where AMD had failed was delivering quantity to supply the demand, AMD will not work in that direction with a five year plan.

Front page www.tomshardware.com and just about every other tech site with an angle on what they took from the meeting notes.

Good move for AMD, if they can meet quantity they can satisfy builders like DELL.

IDF Intel will answer dual core challange, Hector knows this. The writing was on the wall two months ago with Yonah but Conroe might be shown at IDF.
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Try an understand that article again fanboy.

Common sense tells you that if your OEMs want more, you have to give them more. AMD will focus more on OEM since they're gaining more and more market share. They will still deliver their flagship FX processors but OEMs will be the main ones to have it at first.
Once AMD has their other fab working at full capacity, then things will be as before (but with more chips to ease everyone).
 
i've been watching this thread for the past several days, and i was pretty surprised that some of the people here really don't know what they are talking about.

maybe this is just how intel fanboyz act. they would do anything to claim intel's superiority. So much that they don't even have coherence in their arguements, exactly the same as intel's PR department, "BS".

this thread is talking about how FX 60 performs better than 955 EE UNDER NORMAL CONDITION. haven't you read the article posted by 9 inch? and the first intel fanboy jumped in and say, "no this is BS because 955 actually beats a FX60."

alright, someone made that assertion, but refused to back it up, while other readers on this thread posted numerous reports to contradict his/her arguements.

their acts are just like intel's report. intel chooses to look only in one direction, while completely ignores the other important facts.

this is to intel fanboyz... before you make an argument, FIND FACTS AND REPORTS TO BACK THEM UP, or you will just look like a dumba$$.

i would look forward to see Conroe's performance benchmark. but before that, i wouldn't believe intel's "20% increase in performance" is actually true.

btw: i actually agree with linux_0, "amd has better architecture, intel has better marketing (BSing)".
 
I still think AMD kicks ass at stock and Intel kicks ass at O/C. I also think Low-fat Mayonnaise is the devil. Stupid corporate executives can exploit weight-concious people all you want. Just. Stay. Away. From. My. Fucking. Mayo.
 
I still think AMD kicks ass at stock and Intel kicks ass at O/C. I also think Low-fat Mayonnaise is the devil. Stupid corporate executives can exploit weight-concious people all you want. Just. Stay. Away. From. My. Fucking. Mayo.
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HA HA, and Diet Cola. 😀 "I'll have a Big Mac, Large Fries, and a Diet Coke" I love that.
 
I have to say, I was impressed but what I have seen. Though I have some reservations in the benchmarks against AMD, they don't really matter, as what is impressive is the gains Intel has made againts itself, which shows how much work they have (finally) put into building a new high-quality chip Marchitecture.
 
AMD is gonna have to just lower prices like hell and wait it out like they did in the P3 days...it's about damn time Intel got competitive though. They have all the money, R&D, production etc and it took them this long ><
 
AMD is gonna have to just lower prices like hell and wait it out like they did in the P3 days...it's about damn time Intel got competitive though. They have all the money, R&D, production etc and it took them this long ><
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They better dam hell lower there prices in half

To think its winning now, and when AMD pulls something faster out of its hat of tricks, Intel will intrgrate a memory controller and ditch the slower FSB and make it even faster (aswell as 45nm or whatever head)

i did state heaps of times before tho - P6 architecture is not as FSB hungry as P4's, and the Israle team NEVER lets us down.

And MERON IS COMING FOR LAPTOPS - Turion is screw'd aswell.

Im just excited - and finally i can tell all the AMD fanboys plaging the forum to shut up for a few years (well actually MadModMike who's strangly missing right now)

P6 strikes again
 
FUnny to see how these Intel freaks are having orgasms with something that hasn't seing the light of day yet. :lol:

And MERON IS COMING FOR LAPTOPS - Turion is screw'd aswell.
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Do you even have a hint on how dual-core Turions would perform with dual channel DDR2 and tweaks to the core itself?
If not, then STFU. :wink:
 
i know i'm gonna get yelled at a bunch in aa sec but thats ok, you intel fanboys are really stupid. AM2 won't just be an fx-60, with 940 pins and DDR2, it will also have a whole new line of processors, faster than the current ones, including the fx-60. These new processors COULD BEAT conroe, if you didn't think of that. I think your excitment from having some false hope that intel will have the performance crown as you put it again. So don't think it will take till next year when AMD's 65nm process comes out to trump the conroe chip. You have to think about what your saying, "would AMD invest in making a whole new platform for just DDR2?" no, they wouldn't, even for the hype of having something new coming out, they wouldn't. Sure, Intel has made a new advancement, finally, but look how long it took them, they can barley beat AMD, even when they are well into the next process ahead. In fact, i go as far to say that the conroe chip, will NEVER have the performance crown, since intel is still working on it, and it will come out after AM2, AMD will have something better by the time it comes out, how bout that.
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this is my post from the other stupid thread,"Intel regains performance crown", ya, you intel fanboys a 1000 times better than dvdpiddy, cause at least he has a reason to gloat. :evil:
 
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2713&p=1

Intel = Leader

Any questions

@MMM suck crap
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Hey, Apache, have an orgasm over benchmarks rigged by Intel using old tech for AMD, gotta love the "Unknown AMD CPU' on a ATI DFI board with known bad performance, gotta love it newb.

BTW: GET PISSED!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL @ U FANBOY!! LOLOLOLOL

Scores:

FUGGER: 10
sepheronx: 2
CompGeek: 5
Ycon: 1
Apache_Lives: 7
ak47is1337: 3
Jkflipflop: 3
Zyklus: 1
Conroe: 5
CustomPCz: 6
AmdMeltdown: 6

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
corvetteguy said:
i know i'm gonna get yelled at a bunch in aa sec but thats ok, you intel fanboys are really stupid. AM2 won't just be an fx-60, with 940 pins and DDR2, it will also have a whole new line of processors, faster than the current ones, including the fx-60. These new processors COULD BEAT conroe, if you didn't think of that. I think your excitment from having some false hope that intel will have the performance crown as you put it again. So don't think it will take till next year when AMD's 65nm process comes out to trump the conroe chip. You have to think about what your saying, "would AMD invest in making a whole new platform for just DDR2?" no, they wouldn't, even for the hype of having something new coming out, they wouldn't. Sure, Intel has made a new advancement, finally, but look how long it took them, they can barley beat AMD, even when they are well into the next process ahead. In fact, i go as far to say that the conroe chip, will NEVER have the performance crown, since intel is still working on it, and it will come out after AM2, AMD will have something better by the time it comes out, how bout that.
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AM2 isn't as exciting as you might think. Okay, some new processors come out...what do they have? 200 mhz more clock speed as expected. DDR2 is included. That's it...the processors being released are nothing revolutionary, just higher in clock speed and the overall architecture remains the same.
Even if AM2 gives AMD the performance benifit they're hoping it will, Conroe will still smash it to the ground. Intel has something totally new on their hands. AMD will almost guaranteed have nothing to compare with Conroe; maybe a dual core at 2.8/3.0ghz but if those benchmarks are half-ass accurate that won't nearly be enough. Also, for anybody who is too stupid to understand case flow or install a heatsink, these chips are going to run cooler than AMD's by far. AMD is re-releasing 939. Intel has totally redone their mobile chips (which, clock for clock, can outperform an AMD), and already have 65nm-so not only will they clock higher, but they will get more out of each clock. Prescott meets Dothan.
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yes but thats only the first round of processors from AMD, and they have till past july to make more, and even if they are just overclocked they still kick ass, a 3.2ghz fx-60, would kick ass, so why wouldn't a newer processor. They can still make advancments without changing their process just yet. I'd also like to see the price tag of this ee conroe chip, if its as good as YOU say, then it should be $2000.
 
yes but thats only the first round of processors from AMD, and they have till past july to make more, and even if they are just overclocked they still kick ass, a 3.2ghz fx-60, would kick ass, so why wouldn't a newer processor. They can still make advancments without changing their process just yet. I'd also like to see the price tag of this ee conroe chip, if its as good as YOU say, then it should be $2000.
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Intel has released some early pricelists of Conroe; they are VERY competitive. Check it out:
Core Extreme Edition Series - 1333MHz FSB, EM64T, EIST, VT, SSE4
Core Extreme Edition - 3.33GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 4MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 95W - $___ - Q4
Core E6000 Series - 1066MHz FSB, EM64T, EIST, VT, SSE4
Core E6800 - 2.93GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 4MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 65W - $___ - Q4
Core E6700 - 2.67GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 4MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 65W - $529 - Q3
Core E6600 - 2.40GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 4MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 65W - $315 - Q3
Core E6400 - 2.13GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 2MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 65W - $240 - Q3
Core E6300 - 1.86GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 2MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 65W - $210 - Q3
Core E4000 Series - 800MHz FSB, EM64T, EIST, SSE4
Core E4200 - 1.6GHz, 800MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 2MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 65W - $___ - Q3

Also, you fail to recognize that AMD is using 90nm technology, which is blatantly outdated now. You can't expect to see massive frequency gains on that; also, you can't expect to get much overclocking overhead out of those chips as well. Not that AMD can't release anything at all, but their options are limited based on the fact that they can't scale the technology much farther-they will turn into the new prescotts and Intel fanboys will complain AMD chips run hot...imagine that!
 
Core Extreme Edition - 3.33GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 4MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 95W - $___ - Q4
Core E6000 Series - 1066MHz FSB, EM64T, EIST, VT, SSE4
Core E6800 - 2.93GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 4MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 65W - $___ - Q4
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you didn't prove anything, all you said was their mid-range chip will be over $500, and that the extreme edition chips will take even long to come out, when AMD will probably have something new to beat intel with.

I'm extrapolating here, but that charts pattern would suggest that the 2.93ghz conroe will be $800, and the 3.33ghz will be $1100, thats not including price hikes for being intels top of the line.
 
Um, last I heard, AMD was taking marketshare from Intel. Even if Intel can crank out 10k more space heaters daily.

Thats why people buy Intel; heat their homes. As long as you can afford the electricity bill, you can own an Intel. Then you don't need a furnace. In the long run it saves But during summer, they move the computer to the nearest window and blow the hot air outside.

Intel causes global warming.[/quote] Down with Intel, they cause global warming, oh sh!t that was rich. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Core Extreme Edition - 3.33GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 4MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 95W - $___ - Q4
Core E6000 Series - 1066MHz FSB, EM64T, EIST, VT, SSE4
Core E6800 - 2.93GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 4MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 65W - $___ - Q4
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you didn't prove anything, all you said was their mid-range chip will be over $500, and that the extreme edition chips will take even long to come out, when AMD will probably have something new to beat intel with.

I'm extrapolating here, but that charts pattern would suggest that the 2.93ghz conroe will be $800, and the 3.33ghz will be $1100, thats not including price hikes for being intels top of the line.
500 for the 2.66 is more than fair though, considering its performance!
 
Core Extreme Edition - 3.33GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 4MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 95W - $___ - Q4
Core E6000 Series - 1066MHz FSB, EM64T, EIST, VT, SSE4
Core E6800 - 2.93GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 4MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 65W - $___ - Q4
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you didn't prove anything, all you said was their mid-range chip will be over $500, and that the extreme edition chips will take even long to come out, when AMD will probably have something new to beat intel with.

I'm extrapolating here, but that charts pattern would suggest that the 2.93ghz conroe will be $800, and the 3.33ghz will be $1100, thats not including price hikes for being intels top of the line.
500 for the 2.66 is more than fair though, considering its performance! Even the Donald Trump says thats too expensive!
 
Core Extreme Edition - 3.33GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 4MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 95W - $___ - Q4
Core E6000 Series - 1066MHz FSB, EM64T, EIST, VT, SSE4
Core E6800 - 2.93GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 32+32KB L1, 4MB L2, Dual Core, TDP 65W - $___ - Q4
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you didn't prove anything, all you said was their mid-range chip will be over $500, and that the extreme edition chips will take even long to come out, when AMD will probably have something new to beat intel with.

I'm extrapolating here, but that charts pattern would suggest that the 2.93ghz conroe will be $800, and the 3.33ghz will be $1100, thats not including price hikes for being intels top of the line.
500 for the 2.66 is more than fair though, considering its performance! Even the Donald Trump says thats too expensive!
$500 For a processor that outperforms it rival by 40% is fair to me. Don't forget Intel will still have Celerons; not only that-but it will have low end Conroe's which I will be overclocking 😀
 
since MadModMike has nothing intellectual to say, he just states whos a fugger, when he forgot to add his own name into that list. MadModMike, youre just as bad as us or worse, and since thoes benchmarks prove, and soon to come, more, just face it, youre at a position that I was in, now its youre turn, it hits you right in the face. Now add youre name to the fugger list, or it will make you look like an idiot, since youre just as bad or worse then the other fanboys and everyone knows it except others who are in denial like DVDdipsh!t (now im beggining to become more of a fanboy)
 
since MadModMike has nothing intellectual to say, he just states whos a fugger, when he forgot to add his own name into that list. MadModMike, youre just as bad as us or worse, and since thoes benchmarks prove, and soon to come, more, just face it, youre at a position that I was in, now its youre turn, it hits you right in the face. Now add youre name to the fugger list, or it will make you look like an idiot, since youre just as bad or worse then the other fanboys and everyone knows it except others who are in denial like DVDdipsh!t (now im beggining to become more of a fanboy)
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I could care less what company I have "allegiance" to. It's all about performance for the price..
 
since MadModMike has nothing intellectual to say, he just states whos a fugger, when he forgot to add his own name into that list. MadModMike, youre just as bad as us or worse, and since thoes benchmarks prove, and soon to come, more, just face it, youre at a position that I was in, now its youre turn, it hits you right in the face. Now add youre name to the fugger list, or it will make you look like an idiot, since youre just as bad or worse then the other fanboys and everyone knows it except others who are in denial like DVDdipsh!t (now im beggining to become more of a fanboy)
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Uhm...mr. 14 year old...no...

1) Those benchmarks show me how well that DDR2 Memory is, and I already knew it was good

2) They used a "Modified ATI Driver" to "recognize Conroe", uh huh...okay..., so why didn't this "modified driver" recognize FX-60? hmm... hmm....

3) You're a fanboy....LOL @ U!

FUGGER: 10
sepheronx: 4
CompGeek: 6
Ycon: 1
Apache_Lives: 7
ak47is1337: 6
Jkflipflop: 3
Zyklus: 1
Conroe: 5
CustomPCz: 6
AmdMeltdown: 6

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
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