Intel says DISABLE HT

priyajeet · Sep 14, 2004

In a <A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18414" target="_new">news</A> article intel recommends "All operating systems apart from Windows XP, according to Intel, should have hyperthreading disabled. Those include Windows 2K, Win NT 4.0, Win ME, Win 98 and Windows SE."

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He who laughs last thinks slowest!Edited by priyajeet on 09/14/04 00:17 AM.

El_Jefe_77 · Sep 14, 2004

Nice.
so in this case especially, a64 would fly past p4. kinda bizarre.

raretech · Sep 14, 2004

<A HREF="http://support.intel.com/support/processors/sb/cs-012741.htm" target="_new">http://support.intel.com/support/processors/sb/cs-012741.htm</A>

No reason offered. I'm going to be cynical conspiracy theorist here and say the reason is: Microsoft has delayed 64 bit windows for Intel, so now Intel is trying to create a perceived need for an OS upgrade?

Pure fun speculation here...
edit - I should add the implication on their site is that those OSs don't support hyperthreading. Is that really true? I thought 2000 did.

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Mephistopheles · Sep 14, 2004

The fact that HT is best supported in XP than all other of MS OSes is already very, very old news.

The inquirer published it as something new, but it's not.

Why are you all so surprised?

priyajeet · Sep 14, 2004

Well, it is (was) known that XP was based on 2000 core. Hence 2000 should have equal HT support as XP. But as they reported, its not the case.

And it might be old news, but its said by intel now to disable it rather than saying anything but xp has bad support.

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Xeon · Sep 14, 2004

Oh jesus they are soo stupid...

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Mephistopheles · Sep 14, 2004

Absolutely, Xeon.

I can't understand why everybody is making such a fuss about that ridiculously misinformed theinq article.

This is very, very old news. Only XP actually knows how to deal with HT. This is microsoft's fault, not Intel's.

Oh, and if XP is just a revamped 2000, then I'd argue that the 2000 is just a revamped Windows NT 5.0, which is also a revamped NT 4.0. You know what this means????? NOTHING! (Why are we all using XP instead of WinNT then?)

priyajeet · Sep 14, 2004

sure. Billy Gates is always at fault

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ZER0 · Sep 14, 2004

you're a moron. i've known this for over a year. xp or linux is the only o/s optimized to work right with h/t. it doesn't work at all in win9x and windows 2k thinks its actually 2 cpu's so it can take a performance hit.

Mephistopheles · Sep 14, 2004

Was that irony? Oh my, I'm impressed!

...impressed at your lack of knowledge about the workings of HT.

Actually, I'm done with this subject.

El_Jefe_77 · Sep 14, 2004

Well this is just a sad thing that not many besides ultra-geeks know.

yea

raretech · Sep 14, 2004

Geeze guys... I wouldn't call it stupid on my part, so much as ignorance. I'm not a 'doze guy so I didn't know. So does Windows server 2003 support it?

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Nights_L · Sep 15, 2004

So that means if someone isn't using WinXP (Win9X, 2000, Linux etc) won't notice any difference between a P4 with HT and no HT?

priyajeet · Sep 15, 2004

windows 2k thinks its actually 2 cpu's so it can take a performance hit

u are a moron*2, wtf do u think HT does ? See ur fuc***** system info in XP...and if u see just 1 cpu, ur HT is off. XP/2000 both have to show 2 CPUs. And so does LINUX. why the hell do u think in GRUB u gotta choose SMP option. That means symmetric multiprocessor. SMP is only possible when there are more than 1 CPU - physical or logical.

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priyajeet · Sep 15, 2004

I never mentioned anything abt working of HT ???? except reply to the other dude.

I just said, there an article which tells disable HT. thats it.

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He who laughs last thinks slowest!Edited by priyajeet on 09/14/04 04:31 PM.

raretech · Sep 15, 2004

Linux kernels higher than 2.4.17 support it, although I've read briefly suggestions that it is more effective in the 2.6 series. I don't know what the deal is with Windows, I'll let one of the real ultra geeks(TM) cover that.

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priyajeet · Sep 15, 2004

better kwown as uber-geeks.

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raretech · Sep 15, 2004

Nah, uber-geeks don't do Windows.

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priyajeet · Sep 15, 2004

damn

, lemme get that linux up and runnin ! ....on second thoughts fuc* linux, lemme get that bsd running

<- wrong smiley eh ?. goodbye HL2, goodbye D3, goodbye ALL GAMES :frown:

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raretech · Sep 15, 2004

Hey I'm just being a smartass, since "ultra-geeks" supposedly would know about windows issues.

I honestly have nothing against that virus known as windows.

It's not good bye all games under Linux though... D3 will be out soon and if you own the windows version, you can run it under linux now. America's army is out for linux, Unreal tourney 2004 is out for Linux. Personally, I only ever fireup neverball and foobilliards myself. Thought I should say something. The game situation is slowly changing under Linux.

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addiarmadar · Sep 15, 2004

This is really old news but its good to keep those on their toes.

Only an overclocker can make a computer into a convectional oven.

TechMan · Sep 15, 2004

Never knew about this and just realized how stupid I was. I recommended a P4 2.8C as our office server expecting that HT would somehow contribute to the efficiency. It's running on Win2000 Server. Only to know later that I should disable HT on that machine?

Should have gone for an AMD64 3000+ which we use in our workstations.

Crashman · Sep 15, 2004

Uh, d00d, we already knew this years ago when the 3.06 was still pre-realease. 9x doesn't even support dual processors, so of course it can't support 2 logical processors.

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endyen · Sep 15, 2004

Is it just me, or does this smell of an attempt by Intel to get a service pack for 2Kpro? Personnally, I would like to see the attempt succeed.

Crashman · Sep 15, 2004

I don't think MS cares, they have XP and 2003 to push right now.

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