News Intel Teases Rocket Lake Core i9-11900K, Intends to Retake Gaming Crown With 19% IPC Increase

[TerryLaze]

How intel's greed backfired....
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/INTC/intel/net-income

• Intel annual revenue for 2019 was $71.965B, a 1.58% increase from 2018.
• Intel annual revenue for 2018 was $70.848B, a 12.89% increase from 2017.
• Intel annual revenue for 2017 was $62.761B, a 5.68% increase from 2016.

• Intel annual net income for 2019 was $21.048B, a 0.02% decline from 2018.
• Intel annual net income for 2018 was $21.053B, a 119.28% increase from 2017.
• Intel annual net income for 2017 was $9.601B, a 6.93% decline from 2016.

 

[Conahl]

How intel's greed backfired....
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/INTC/intel/net-income

and that proves what ? that you ALWAYS post how much money intel makes to prove your point ? nice try. just proves intel IS greedy, nothing more. my guess ,you didnt like that video, cause it isnt nice towards intel, and for the most part, is anti intel, where you, have shown time and time again, you are an intel fan boy. maybe its time to try a different angle to defend your beloved intel

 

[spongiemaster]

Intel did what they did, because they could. the main reason we could see intel finally increase IPC more then the <10% gen over gen, IS because of amd, and now, its because intel HAS TO. plain and simple

Intel has flushed billions down the toilet and spent 4 extra years so far trying to fix their delayed/broken 10nm process because they could? I guess that's true, but seems like a rather odd way to do business and "stick it to the customer" if that was their plan all along. One would think there are people within Intel that could have come up with a cheaper plan that doesn't make them look like incompetent fools that could have accomplished the same results of "milking" the customers.

 

[Conahl]

nice try, but i was referring to how intel stagnated the market, stuck the mainstream at quad cores, gave us pretty much minimal performance increases gen over gen, all cause of its greed, as the video kinda of shows, which you obviously did not watch, again, nice try. and now because they have to, are able to all of a sudden go up to a 19% ipc increase over last gen ? yea ok sure.
intels fab issues, are because they were too agressive, and couldnt admit, they screwed up.

 

[TerryLaze]

and that proves what ? that you ALWAYS post how much money intel makes to prove your point ? nice try. just proves intel IS greedy, nothing more. my guess ,you didnt like that video, cause it isnt nice towards intel, and for the most part, is anti intel, where you, have shown time and time again, you are an intel fan boy. maybe its time to try a different angle to defend your beloved intel

You are the one that posted a video titled How intel's greed backfired....
What did you expect?! Of course people will point out intel's earnings because their greed did indeed do the exact opposite of backfire, their greed made them make twice the money.
Yes intel does everything out of greed, so does AMD so does everybody that has a business. That doesn't change the fact that if intel increased IPC during AMD FX days AMD would not exist anymore.

Stop trying to make it out as if intel is loosing money and people, first of all me, are going to stop posting how much money intel makes.

Nothing that guy talks about in his video has happened.

 

[Conahl]

Of course people will point out intel's earnings because their greed did indeed do the exact opposite of backfire, their greed made them make twice the money

while they did what i stated. but of course you dont see that, because it puts your beloved intel, in a bad light.
news flash for you pro intel terrylaze, a company that makes alot less then intel has surpassed them, all because intel was to cocky about its market share, and it figured no one would be able to catch up.

Nothing that guy talks about in his video if it is negative or bashes intel in any way, has happened

there fixed it for you

 

[spongiemaster]

nice try, but i was referring to how intel stagnated the market, stuck the mainstream at quad cores, gave us pretty much minimal performance increases gen over gen, all cause of its greed, as the video kinda of shows, which you obviously did not watch, again, nice try. and now because they have to, are able to all of a sudden go up to a 19% ipc increase over last gen ? yea ok sure.
intels fab issues, are because they were too agressive, and couldnt admit, they screwed up.

Pretty much all of Intel's problem trace back to their failures with 10nm. Look at their roadmap from 2011.

10 years ago, Intel planned to be at 5nm right now. Then 14nm was delayed a year, and 10nm has been an unmitigated disaster. It's well known Intel was planning a 10nm Cannon Lake 8 core mainstream CPU. That would have been released as much as 3.5 years before the 9900k was eventually released which would have had nothing to with AMD. Intel's plan was never to stick with quad cores as long as they did, but they didn't want to release higher core mainstream CPU's on 14nm. It's pretty obvious why when you see the power usage of the 9900K and 10900k. It's the same reason Intel is backing down to 8 cores with Rocket Lake. The power requirements for more cores at 5+Ghz makes the CPU's impractical for a mainstream platform. The other problem with so many cores at 14nm is the lost chip capacity. Intel would not have been battling chip shortages for years, if they had gotten to 10nm and beyond earlier and enjoyed the better yields per wafer.

Hanlon's razor absolutely applies here. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Intel isn't where they are now because that was there plan in an attempt to screw their customers, they're here because of engineering screw ups.

 

[JamesSneed]

I feel Intel has lost its competitive advantage when it fell significantly behind their own schedule to introduce the 10nm and 7nm. Usually they are way ahead of competitors because their fab produces more advance nodes that are more dense and better when it comes to power characteristics. With likely a subpar 10nm so that they can rush it out, and likely a subpar 7nm as well, they are pretty much on equal footing with ARM and AMD. So that leaves them to compete with CPU architecture, which they seem to be responding slowly to incoming threats.

I agree. AMD built an entire new architecture from the ground up for the new paradigm using chiplets. Intel is going to need to do the same. Not until Meteor Lake is that really the case and that is likely late 2022.

 

[Krotow]

So will be another Intel year - and when Q1 results are released - won't be good for AMD

And gaming computer builders will don't bother 😛