Intel's Bay Trail, Valleyview Atom Tablet Chip Roadmap Leaks

[zakislam]

New chips will lead to faster tablets that sports higher memory capacity.

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[joytech22]

Atom has come a very long way from when it was first introduced.
I can finally say that Atom provides adequate performance for most tasks.

This new chip for tablets should hopefully only improve my view on Atom.

 

[benikens]

It won't be competing with Tegra 3 or the S4 but their successors, Tegra 4 is expected early 2013 last I checked. Seems silly to be looking into one company's roadmap and comparing against current gen rivals.

 

[sundragon]

Smoke and mirrors, until we see benchmarks. Currently ARM based chips rule the tablet world this is a moving target. Intel's promise of Tegra 3/S4 level performance 2 years from now is hot air. In 2014, the Tegra 3 and S4 will be old technology and there will be new chips that exceed their performance. I haven't even mentioned the Swift ARM core from Apple... For Intel's sakes I hope they are under reporting performance or it's going to a be cut before it launches.

 

[Guest]

sundragon, don't be daft. The current Tablet ATOMS are outperforming Tegra 3 and offer similar level battery life. What they don't have are baseband technology in the chips. That is something Intel is planning on having for 2014. This is a POORLY written article at best. Intel currently has no quad core solutions for Atom and it's not built on th 22nm process. Their next iteration is supposed to be 22nm, out of order execution, and have a similar graphics core as what is currently on Intel Mobile chips. They aren't releasing something in 2014 that is supposed to compete with a 2011 product. Intel isn't that stupid.

 

[jimmysmitty]

[citation][nom]joytech22[/nom]Atom has come a very long way from when it was first introduced.I can finally say that Atom provides adequate performance for most tasks.This new chip for tablets should hopefully only improve my view on Atom.[/citation]

The one thing not talked about is that its supposed to have Ivy Bridge class graphics instead of the current PowerVR based GPU which will be interesting to see in action on such a small form factor.

[citation][nom]benikens[/nom]It won't be competing with Tegra 3 or the S4 but their successors, Tegra 4 is expected early 2013 last I checked. Seems silly to be looking into one company's roadmap and comparing against current gen rivals.[/citation]

It all depends but from what we have seen so far, it might even compete with those.

The one thing about ARM is that while they are efficient power wise, hey are weak core wise. Currently a Intel Atom based mobile CPU competes very well against current dual cores and its only a single core with SMT.

This will be a quad core and most likely utilize SMT giving it 8 threads.

We will see in the coming months but still Intel is in it to win and they have the resources to push harder than the others, for example they control the entire process while NVidia has to rely on third parties for the manufacturing which can spiral for them (i.e. 32nm process for AMD via GF was not good to start).

 

[tomfreak]

they should have stick to 2 high performing cores that 4 weaker ones.

 

[sundragon]

[citation][nom]ComeOnDudeMan[/nom]sundragon, don't be daft. The current Tablet ATOMS are outperforming Tegra 3 and offer similar level battery life. What they don't have are baseband technology in the chips. That is something Intel is planning on having for 2014. This is a POORLY written article at best. Intel currently has no quad core solutions for Atom and it's not built on th 22nm process. Their next iteration is supposed to be 22nm, out of order execution, and have a similar graphics core as what is currently on Intel Mobile chips. They aren't releasing something in 2014 that is supposed to compete with a 2011 product. Intel isn't that stupid.[/citation]

It's not daft - Intel hasn't delivered baseband yet and currently (Without quad cores, out of order execution, better graphics core) Atoms are hungrier than current ARM core based chips - Promising this is all great and dandy but the proof is in the pudding - We haven't seen any of the new architecture so unless it's super efficient and a total departure from the current Atom architecture, it's going to be a tall order to deliver that in a competitive price/performance package.

It's not that I don't think Intel can do it, but judging by the way they have treated the Atom architecture in the past, I wouldn't place any bets on them delivering all of that.

All of this is also happening while their competition from Qualcomm, Samsung, Apple, etc are releasing new chips.

 

[sundragon]

Oh I also forgot to mention, Atom's are selling for quite a bit more $$ than any of their ARM based competition. Intel needs to address the delta in price.

 

[mayankleoboy1]

intel doesnt understand a market where they dont have a monopoly.

 

[aicom]

[citation][nom]mayankleoboy1[/nom]intel doesnt understand a market where they dont have a monopoly.[/citation]
Motherboards, SSDs, Ethernet NICs, WLAN products, HPC computing, need I continue?

 

[de5_Roy]

huh, no mention of the igpu..tablets are mainly media consumption devices. without a competitive igpu.....
afaik, intel is actually behind soc fabrication. they're selling 32nm socs while competitors are selling 28nm socs (quite a few of them being quadcore with powerful igpus) for tablets and smartphones. i could be wrong about this...

 

[chewy1963]

[citation][nom]aicom[/nom]Motherboards, SSDs, Ethernet NICs, WLAN products, HPC computing, need I continue?[/citation]

Not to mention they had to reel in AMD in the mid 2000's. I have little doubt that by the time the chips mentioned in this article are a reality, they will pwn ARM in performance and most likely efficiency too. Intel has a monopoly because they are good at competing.

 

[Guest]

Atoms seem to be on a level power draw as their ARM counterparts on the tablet side so I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers. Performance wise, they are right where the top of the line ARM tablets are if you look at the dual core version with the updated PowerVR gaphics. Apple's chips in fact draw more power. Atom is most definitely competitive with ARM but they do not have baseband. That will only come with 22nm. I'm not sure what you think Intel hasn't promised, but considering they are using a 5 year old technology, Intel has nailed it with the Cederview Atom. They are right on pace with ARM in that segment performance and power wise. Now, ARM will likely pass Intel in 2013, but again, Intel is in development and should have a far more compelling product by 2014. The fact that they caught ARM though is amazing in and of itself. A 22nm part with full baseband, out of order execution, and IvyBridge/Haswell graphics and 4 core will be a hell of a product for ARM to deal with.

 

[Guest]

This article is misleading. Atom is performing better than the best of Tegra 3 can offer at the moment. What is currently lacking is not the performance, but the cost and battery life. By the time 2014 comes along, the next Atom is going to compete against the next generation from ARM architecture. Performance wise Atom is currently having the edge, which ARM solution will have to improve. Meanwhile, Atom needs to cost less or perform much better at current cost, and to use less battery power.

 

[ojas]

A single core Atom pretty much meets or beats any Tegra 3 out there, and competes with even Krait in some respects.

A quad core IVB/Haswell Atom is going to be killer.

And Otellini's retiring, but Tom's won't tell you till next week i guess.

 

[Wisecracker]

Kabini/Temash + TSMC = LOL @ Bay Trail - Valleyview

 

[murzar]

They're not bad you know, I have used Medfield for a couple of hours, I found it pretty ok. Couldn't comment on the battery life without proper testing.

Plus they weren't priced competitively.

 

[GreaseMonkey_62]

I had to laugh at the part that said superior graphics. I'm sorry but superior graphics and Intel don't go together.

 

[sivaseemakurthi]

I don't understand some of the comments here. Medfield CPU is much faster than tegra3 as shown in most of the benchmarks. Only the graphics is trailing.
Also please stop saying quad core better than single core at all times. Architecture matters.

 

[phate]

[citation][nom]GreaseMonkey_62[/nom]I had to laugh at the part that said superior graphics. I'm sorry but superior graphics and Intel don't go together.[/citation]

I suppose that's true in the discrete graphics card world, but the embedded HD 4000 graphics in the latest Ivy Bridge chips is actually a pretty decent graphics setup. If they can translate that level of performance over to the mobile chipset, they'll have a winner on their hands.

 

[Wisecracker]

HD 4000 ain't PowerVR + Atom