Intel's Future Chips: News, Rumours & Reviews

[elite09g8]

I wish Intel would stop wasting time and their resources on GPUs... let AMD do that or NVidia deal with that.. just my thought.

 

[logainofhades]

I wish Intel would stop wasting time and their resources on GPUs... let AMD do that or NVidia deal with that.. just my thought.

They want to get more into mobile, and with crap graphics, that is hard to do.

 

[Turb0Yoda]

LINUX!! YES, FINALLY THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES.

[strike]So Broadwell is still on LGA 1150, Sylake is on LGA 1151 right?[/strike]

Yep, I was right.

 

[de5_Roy]

Intel 14nm Kaby Lake 'Refresh Platform' delayed to 2H 2016
http://wccftech.com/14nm-kaby-lake-intel-launch-delayed-2016/
i've been avoiding these leaks from benchlife.com. not enough salt.

 

[Cazalan]

Still not sure why it would be called Kaby. Intel didn't bother giving a new name to the Haswell refresh.

Skylake really hasn't even launched yet.

 

[logainofhades]

Still not sure why it would be called Kaby. Intel didn't bother giving a new name to the Haswell refresh.

Skylake really hasn't even launched yet.

Technically it did get a name, Devil's Canyon.

 

[Cazalan]

Still not sure why it would be called Kaby. Intel didn't bother giving a new name to the Haswell refresh.

Skylake really hasn't even launched yet.

Technically it did get a name, Devil's Canyon.

Devil's Canyon was only part of the refresh though, and the architecture still gets listed as Haswell with same stepping.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i7/Intel-Core%20i7-4790K.html

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i7/Intel-Core%20i7-4770K.html


Oddly enough I did find an old Skylake benchmark trading blows with Carrizo. 😉

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/2637682?baseline=2800484

 

[de5_Roy]

devil's canyon was intel's way of telling people why they couldn't o.c. the i5 and i7 -K cpus well. intel kept the good ones to itself. the reviewers' i7 4770k samples may have belonged to devil's canyon series

 

[jdwii]

4790k owners had a lot of temp issues de5-roy I'll say I feel bad for the ones who tried it on the stock cooler. Hoping skylake at 4.0ghz does a bit better. My 212+ when gaming at stock still jumps to 65c or so and I don't feel a lot of hot air coming out which means its not getting transferred fast enough which at jayztwocents they also reported it.

My 8350 was way better at transferring heat

 

[de5_Roy]

4790k owners had a lot of temp issues de5-roy I'll say I feel bad for the ones who tried it on the stock cooler. Hoping skylake at 4.0ghz does a bit better. My 212+ when gaming at stock still jumps to 65c or so and I don't feel a lot of hot air coming out which means its not getting transferred fast enough which at jayztwocents they also reported it.

My 8350 was way better at transferring heat

i've had a suspicion for a long time that the i7 4790k is really a 110w cpu. the stock cooler could only dissipate up to 95w iirc, after that the cpu would start running hot.

 

[Cazalan]

I would get random blue screens with the stock Ivy cooler on the K model even at stock speeds. An el-cheapo $20 HSF worked wonders.

 

[Turb0Yoda]

Has anyone OC'd the G3258(The unlocked Pentium) on the stock cooler. My friend says it has a copper slug, and it does perfectly fine with a mild-medium OC. I don't expect it to put out much heat both ways, being a dual core....

 

[de5_Roy]

if pentium's stock HSF is the one from 84w haswell -k series cpus', it will have at least 30-35w worth of thermal headroom. more, if the cooler is rated for 95w.

 

[jdwii]

Has anyone OC'd the G3258(The unlocked Pentium) on the stock cooler. My friend says it has a copper slug, and it does perfectly fine with a mild-medium OC. I don't expect it to put out much heat both ways, being a dual core....

Yes i made many Dolphin emulator builds with this CPU and no Amd anything can beat it for that. In all cases a 4.0-4.2Ghz OC was possible on the stock heat-sink.

 

[juanrga]

Still not sure why it would be called Kaby. Intel didn't bother giving a new name to the Haswell refresh.

Skylake really hasn't even launched yet.

Technically it did get a name, Devil's Canyon.

Devil's Canyon was only part of the refresh though, and the architecture still gets listed as Haswell with same stepping.

That is because the architecture has not changed

Devil's Canyon = Haswell refresh

That is the same situation than AMD's Richland being based on the same Piledriver arch. than Trinity.

Kabylake = Skylake refresh

 

[gamerk316]

Has anyone OC'd the G3258(The unlocked Pentium) on the stock cooler. My friend says it has a copper slug, and it does perfectly fine with a mild-medium OC. I don't expect it to put out much heat both ways, being a dual core....

Even in games, the G3258 can generally match the FX-4xxx, and sometimes the FX-6xxx. The i3 with Hyperthreading is much more reliable for gaming though. For a mid-end gaming rig, it's viable, but I'd always recommend a hyperthreaded i3 over it for gaming rigs if budget allows.

 

[de5_Roy]

Intel's FIVR Rumored To Return With Ice Lake Generation of Processors - Skylake and Kaby Lake Voltages To Be Regulated by Boards
http://wccftech.com/intel-ice-lake-return-fvir-wip/
Intel Skylake Core i7-6700K vs Core i7-4790K Devil's Canyon Performance Benchmarks Leaked - Tested on ECS Z170 Claymore Motherboard
http://wccftech.com/wipintel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-core-i7-4790k-devils-canyon-performance-benchmarks-leaked-tested-ecs-z170-claymore-motherboard/
Intel needs to stop taking the tablets
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/38205-intel-needs-to-stop-taking-the-tablets
New Google Glass is atomic powered
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/wearables/38204-new-google-glass-is-atomic-powered
Intel Core i7-5775C (Broadwell)
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/intel_core_i7_5775c_broadwell,1.html

 

[-Fran-]

http://techreport.com/news/28642/intel-delays-10-nm-process-third-14-nm-cpu-to-follow-skylake

Any practical implications of this?

Cheers!

 

[gamerk316]

Not much, just a one year delay due to process transition. I mean, we've known for a while Intel couldn't keep the two year node cadence for much longer.

 

[-Fran-]

Not much, just a one year delay due to process transition. I mean, we've known for a while Intel couldn't keep the two year node cadence for much longer.

Wouldn't it mean that Intel is giving TSMC, Samsung and (ugh) GloFo a change to catch up to them? I mean, Samsung already showed 10nm FinFET waffers (hybrid node?) and IBM announced 7nm risk production (IIRC). Saying they'll be late with the node might have interesting implications in the mid term.

Also, not related to Intel, but still interesting:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9448/european-union-opens-up-antitrust-investigation-into-qualcomm

Cheers!

 

[gamerk316]

Samsung has quietly been competitive for a very long time; no one cared because they mainly did memory then.

Also remember, wafer != full scale production.

 

[-Fran-]

Samsung has quietly been competitive for a very long time; no one cared because they mainly did memory then.

Also remember, wafer != full scale production.

Well, yeah. They're not the same, but how much time is between one another? I haven't seen any waffers from Intel showing 10nm either, unless I missed them at IDC.

Cheers!

EDIT: Typo.

 

[juanrga]

Not much, just a one year delay due to process transition. I mean, we've known for a while Intel couldn't keep the two year node cadence for much longer.

Wouldn't it mean that Intel is giving TSMC, Samsung and (ugh) GloFo a change to catch up to them? I mean, Samsung already showed 10nm FinFET waffers (hybrid node?) and IBM announced 7nm risk production (IIRC). Saying they'll be late with the node might have interesting implications in the mid term.

Intel has lab prototypes on 10nm , what have delayed is volume production.

Also Samsung 10nm is not so aggressive like Intel 10nm and IBM 7nm is like Intel 10nm.

 

[Cazalan]

It would seem Samsung/TSMC are gaining ground. Their 14/16 nodes are hybrid nodes though. Still 20nm on the backend.

Not the same density as Intel but they still get a good portion of the power savings with the FinFets.

The litmus test will be when they're shipping large die for NVidia/AMD, as Intel is starting to do now.

 

[-Fran-]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/intel-president-renee-james-to-leave-1435843664

There are so many things we could read/interpret from that... That is, putting our tin foil hats

Cheers!