[SOLVED] Is it worth building top of the line pc that handles 8k?

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Always wanted to build a super gaming pc and now im finally in the position to go all out but with everything thats going on im just wondering is it worth building this year? Feel like I maybe be missing something but idk thats why I'm here was kinda messing around the other night

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MBhs9G
 
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I'm all ears you guys all hate the case but what would you recommend? I like the front panel I guess really is all im stoked over about it but please tell me what else is out there I literally just jumped back into this after 10 years of not even thinking about pc stuff and ive never actually able to build one i wanted to go to career center for computers mom wouldn't let me cause i woke up late and would miss bus and no way to get to the school so I dropped out and that was the last of that journey

Nobody hates that case, it's just the fact it's so ridicolously overpriced and actual cooling wise it isn't anything special at all, just merely ok.
Its a $300 case, you overpaid immensely for it.

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People don't get simple point that after certain point it lot more to do with Aesthetics and Overall Experience(not limited to gaming) than Performance.

Why not get top of the Line CPU when spending that high. Specially when it may be utilized to its max over time.

The 2 x 8GB HDDs are to run in RAID1. So it will be 4TB SSD + 8TB HDD(RAID1). Use HDDs for Redundant Backup. Depending on how important the Stored Data is I also recommend to have one copy stored to External source. But yes having HDDs in RAID1 is lot safer than simply saving it on single drive which can fail over time.

PCIe3.0 and 4.0 SSDs cost same for 2TB and 4TB. And going with 2 x 2TB RAID0 is not much of a cost saving. Instead having 1 4TB Drive is better.

The upcoming GPUs RTX3000 series Flagships will support SLI. It is not dead. There are new games in which it scales good. But yes paying double to get only up-to 50% performance gain is the choice of OP. If he doesn't need that extra up-to 50% gain of performance in few games he can do fine with Single GPU.

Monitor yes LG OLED CX series is the best 4K Gaming Monitor.

Audio Equipment. It does cost that much but as I said it is long term investment. Unlike getting Multiple low quality Gaming headsets over a decade which are not even worth comparing for audio quality and listening experience. This Setup with Sennheiser GSX1200Pro for best gaming surround, Direct Pass-through For DOLBY Atmos For Headphones and Monoprice THX AAA-788 for Music and Amplification in Pairing of Sennheiser HD 660 S is godly experience. And all the components are there to stay for a long time and through multiple builds. This is similar as to get a Multi-Chanel Surround Speaker Setup opposed to Buying a Sound Bar.
 
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@NightHawkRMX @neme

I just dont understand whats the point in the better parts of it doesn't increase speed and performance? You guys keep saying build a cheaper build with same specs I don't get it?
The RAW performance will not go high and they are correct. But what you are paying for beyond a certain point is for overall experience which does scale according to your expenditure. Let me make it simple for you.

There are people who stick to purchasing TVs and a Sound-Bar while there are people go out and spend to get dedicated Home Theater Setup. They are spending high for Experience.

People Purchase Honda Civic and then there are people who purchase Mercedes Benz E Class. What are they spending extra for when in both the cases the Car takes equal time to reach from point A to B. They are spending high for Experience.
 
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People Purchase Honda Civic and then there are people who purchase Mercedes Benz E Class. What are they spending extra for when in both the cases the Car takes equal time to reach from point A to B. They are spending high for Experience.
I would put it more like this:

$1,500 PC = Honda Civic
$3,000 PC = MB E Class
$10,000 PC = MB E Class, with 24k gold infused paint job.
 
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I would put it more like this:

$1,500 PC = Honda Civic
$3,000 PC = MB E Class
$10,000 PC = MB E Class, with 24k gold infused paint job.
I think I would like to give bit more credit to Civic. It is nearly as fast as Mercedes E 350 in both acceleration and top speed. But it costs 1/3 the price.
Now coming o PC $1500 an $3000 PC are not on the same level of performance. Lets say if Civic is $2,500 Then E 350 will be $7,500. But we have to take into consideration of fact that $10,000 PC is equal to AMG E 53 thanks to second GPU in SLI.
 
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So, you want to do this once, because:



SO, my advice would be, wait. I know that's not what you want to hear and USUALLY it's not what we say, because there is almost always something "bigger and better" right around the corner. However, in this case, there are two, MAJOR releases coming. The Nvidia 3000 series graphics cards which early indications are that this is going to be another major boost in performance over current 2000 series models. And the Ryzen 4000 series Zen 3 desktop processors which will likely take the single core performance crown for consumer hardware AND retain the title for core count as well, at a significantly lower power consumption level than anything Intel has to offer in this segment.

Nvidia coming in September, Zen 3 supposedly coming not long after. I think these are worth waiting for because to be honest the current crop of Intel CPUs, which are a refresh of a refresh of a refresh of a refresh, are really not very noteworthy and are terrible when it comes to power consumption on the higher core count parts.

But that's your call, of course. As far as your build is concerned, there are seriously poor choices, no offense, among those parts, and a really unbalanced selection between the parts and the quality. In short, it basically looks like a rookie outlined it, which is no fault of yours, because you ARE a rookie. We were ALL rookies at one point in time, so we've all been there and we've all done exactly that.

If you were going to build right now, at the very high end, then I'd look more at something like this. Note, this does not include a graphics card, and you already know why. This is not just "find the most expensive thing and throw it in there". This is ALL exceptional high quality, known superior performance, best in class features parts. While there are always personal preferences to any build, such as RGB and case aesthetics, I don't think anybody will want to argue with the merits of this build if you were to built it today and then throw a flagship 3000 series card in there. It would be extremely hard to beat without waiting for the next Gen CPUs.

The displays, I'll leave up to you and perhaps those are a good subject for an entirely different thread, or an extension of this one, because those two will require a somewhat lengthy discussion on exactly what is going to work the best for you. I think we've already established that those will be 4k monitors but there are a number of other very important aspects to the selection of one such as panel type, size (Because, it NEEDS to be a specific size based on where you can realistically PLACE them in relation to where you will be sitting), and so on.

And if anybody wants to question ANY specific component choice below, I'll be more than happy to explain EXACTLY why that specific model was selected and why I believe it's the best choice for the build, within reason, without simply going ridiculously out of our minds with spending money unnecessarily on things that likely won't improve anything.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($429.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate FireCuda 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($189.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate IronWolf NAS 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.99 @ Adorama)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($158.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($258.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan ($24.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan ($24.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan ($24.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan ($24.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan ($24.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $2045.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-27 00:02 EDT-0400
Really what's wrong with the ram I chose over what you chose? The power supply was larger because I wasn't sure of the new graphics card it said it would draw 850w on a quick Google search so I wanted to go slightly larger just to be safe and I wasnt sure are hybrid drives still all the rage? I remember you weren't really supposed to erase the ssd so ppl got the hybrids cause they're better for writing over stuff again or something along the lines. As for the processor couple sites said the 10900k was best for gaming and again with the motherboard seemed like a decent gaming board im not doing anything to crazy idk till I get it its been a long time since I messed with a pc and I'm excited!
 
The RAM you selected initially:
Corsair Dominator Platinum 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-2400 CL15 Memory $2829.00


What 64GB actually costs:
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $299.99


See the diff?
Screw the first build I just slapped that together in bed before laying down cause my brain wouldn't stop and as far as the price I didnt think that was the real price figured someone just had it jacked and thats why it read such a high price im talking the one i just posted
 
Screw the first build I just slapped that together in bed before laying down cause my brain wouldn't stop and as far as the price I didnt think that was the real price figured someone just had it jacked and thats why it read such a high price im talking the one i just posted
This one?
https://forums.tomshardware.com/thr...-that-handles-8k.3640020/page-2#post-21933483

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/64gKYH

Except for the over the top power supply, the $300 bluray drive, and the $200 for 4 fans, nothing really wrong with that one.
 
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What, pray tell, is the performance difference between these 2 BD devices.
PCPartPicker Part List

Optical Drive: LG BH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($291.58 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($53.48 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $345.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-27 09:39 EDT-0400
With that I did just go with the higher one even though the stats barley justify i figured just in case it wouldn't hurt
 
What, pray tell, is the performance difference between these 2 BD devices.
PCPartPicker Part List

Optical Drive: LG BH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($291.58 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($53.48 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $345.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-27 09:39 EDT-0400
Respected Sir Did you really ask me this question.

Isn't it obvious. One is Discontinued while other is still in Production.
 
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And yet that is the one our OP chose.

More $$ does not always = More performance.
Yes if we blindly select components it doesn't.

When I say spending high will give better experience I was referring to my list.

You know that I am not that crazy and blinded that I would list components without them having legit value and worthy offering over others.
 
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Obviously, the car analogies aren't perfect.

But for me, the diff between $3k and $10k is several thouand $$ of bling.

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Yes if we blindly select components it doesn't.

When I say spending high will give better experience I was referring to my list.

You know that I am not that crazy and blinded that I would list components without them having legit value and worthy offering over others.
Yeah, I don't know about that. I see posts from a lot of members that should know better, every day, doing exactly that.
 
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Shoot if I can 4k at a smooth 60 fps or even 120fps ill be stoked was just trying to future proof myself a bit i know its next to impossible with pc but its one helluvan upgrade from what I've ever had
 
Shoot if I can 4k at a smooth 60 fps or even 120fps ill be stoked was just trying to future proof myself a bit i know its next to impossible with pc but its one helluvan upgrade from what I've ever had

Definitely surprised the degree of upgrade the next generation appears to be. Nvidia is being unusually aggressive here.

And I'm still saying "appears" until we have real data. Marketing doesn't count, even if later proved to be accurate!
 
Definitely surprised the degree of upgrade the next generation appears to be. Nvidia is being unusually aggressive here.

And I'm still saying "appears" until we have real data. Marketing doesn't count, even if later proved to be accurate!
I was bummed thinking this is the worst year to finally build a pc glad to see that changed its turning out to be quite alright 😎